Title: Cleaning beer lines
Post by: delzep on November 17, 2018, 10:47:42 PM
Post by: delzep on November 17, 2018, 10:47:42 PM
What chemicals do you use to clean beer lines?
Title: Re: Cleaning beer lines
Post by: phildo79 on November 17, 2018, 11:02:15 PM
Post by: phildo79 on November 17, 2018, 11:02:15 PM
I have only just recently started kegging but I was planning to flush the lines out with starsan as soon as the keg is empty. When this one is empty, I'll have another batch to put straight in, so it's no biggy. But even if I didn't, I'd still be flushing the lines. I'm hoping that the sooner you do it, the less caustic the chemicals need to be.
I could be way off with that though. However, a keg is just one big bottle. So hopefully the same principles apply.
I could be way off with that though. However, a keg is just one big bottle. So hopefully the same principles apply.
Title: Cleaning beer lines
Post by: CH on November 17, 2018, 11:15:49 PM
Post by: CH on November 17, 2018, 11:15:49 PM
Starsan only sanitises it doesn't clean. There are specific purple beer line cleaners on the market I pick them up in Makro in the North. They are like 7stg for 5l I've had the same one for years.
If you put into solution your normal cleaner and circulate with a pump for 20mins and then a big rinse. Make sure to rinse and not soak overnight as otherwise the plastic will absorb, especially chlorine cleaning agents.
If you put into solution your normal cleaner and circulate with a pump for 20mins and then a big rinse. Make sure to rinse and not soak overnight as otherwise the plastic will absorb, especially chlorine cleaning agents.
Title: Re: Cleaning beer lines
Post by: johnrm on November 17, 2018, 11:26:15 PM
Post by: johnrm on November 17, 2018, 11:26:15 PM
Ahem, sanitises.
Title: Cleaning beer lines
Post by: CH on November 17, 2018, 11:30:22 PM
Post by: CH on November 17, 2018, 11:30:22 PM
Yeah what he said, edited forums are never good places with booze on board
Title: Re: Cleaning beer lines
Post by: phildo79 on November 17, 2018, 11:31:54 PM
Post by: phildo79 on November 17, 2018, 11:31:54 PM
Would water and thin bleach do the same job? Fill the keg, hook it up to the gas and flush the line?
Title: Re: Cleaning beer lines
Post by: delzep on November 18, 2018, 12:52:53 AM
Post by: delzep on November 18, 2018, 12:52:53 AM
Was considering getting Jantex line cleaning from Nisbets. Anyone any experience with it?
Title: Re: Cleaning beer lines
Post by: dcalnan on November 18, 2018, 04:43:47 PM
Post by: dcalnan on November 18, 2018, 04:43:47 PM
I've the jantex stuff. Again I got 5 litres and it's probably going to last year's depending on the expirary date.
Title: Re: Cleaning beer lines
Post by: CH on November 18, 2018, 10:55:53 PM
Post by: CH on November 18, 2018, 10:55:53 PM
Just looking at the dilution rate that's gonna last years, as I said don't be tempted to make strong doses tho, you'll taint your gear
https://www.nisbets.ie/jantex-beer-line-cleaner-5-litre/gc977
https://www.nisbets.ie/jantex-beer-line-cleaner-5-litre/gc977
Title: Re: Cleaning beer lines
Post by: delzep on November 19, 2018, 05:07:25 PM
Post by: delzep on November 19, 2018, 05:07:25 PM
It'll last longer than me I reckon ??? ;D
Saw this on youtube, looks a good idea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-fWSF9k34M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-fWSF9k34M)
Any recommended submersible pumps for this (cheap ones ;))
Saw this on youtube, looks a good idea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-fWSF9k34M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-fWSF9k34M)
Any recommended submersible pumps for this (cheap ones ;))
Title: Re: Cleaning beer lines
Post by: delzep on November 19, 2018, 05:15:28 PM
Post by: delzep on November 19, 2018, 05:15:28 PM
Actually, I think he overcomplicates things on that video. Can have the pump output tubing (3/8" hose) with a JG 3/8" coupling to the 3/8" hose for the beer line (or 3/8" to 5/16" for a nitro line) I think
In fact, a splitter on the output side could clean 2 lines at once
In fact, a splitter on the output side could clean 2 lines at once
Title: Re: Cleaning beer lines
Post by: CH on November 19, 2018, 06:36:59 PM
Post by: CH on November 19, 2018, 06:36:59 PM
100% agreed, Christ talk about over engineering those Chinese carbonation caps help, a simple solar or cheaper again pond pump will do the job
Title: Re: Cleaning beer lines
Post by: delzep on November 19, 2018, 07:53:23 PM
Post by: delzep on November 19, 2018, 07:53:23 PM
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3-6-10-15-25W-Ultra-Quiet-Submersible-Water-Fountain-Pump-Filter-Fish-Pond-Aquarium-Water/32850608523.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.17.1d2f46a75fsznC&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10065_10068_319_317_5733915_10696_10924_10084_453_454_10083_10618_5733715_10920_10921_10304_10922_10307_10820_10821_537_10302_536_5733815_10059_10884_5734015_10887_100031_321_322_10103,searchweb201603_51,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=7a082fd6-d3ab-4652-8f99-c7575b635286-2&algo_pvid=7a082fd6-d3ab-4652-8f99-c7575b635286 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3-6-10-15-25W-Ultra-Quiet-Submersible-Water-Fountain-Pump-Filter-Fish-Pond-Aquarium-Water/32850608523.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.17.1d2f46a75fsznC&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10065_10068_319_317_5733915_10696_10924_10084_453_454_10083_10618_5733715_10920_10921_10304_10922_10307_10820_10821_537_10302_536_5733815_10059_10884_5734015_10887_100031_321_322_10103,searchweb201603_51,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=7a082fd6-d3ab-4652-8f99-c7575b635286-2&algo_pvid=7a082fd6-d3ab-4652-8f99-c7575b635286)
There are many pumps like this on ali express, ebay etc. Are the threaded outlets usually the same size and anyone know what size to get a JG fitting (or barbed if needs be)?
There are many pumps like this on ali express, ebay etc. Are the threaded outlets usually the same size and anyone know what size to get a JG fitting (or barbed if needs be)?
Title: Re: Cleaning beer lines
Post by: delzep on November 19, 2018, 09:26:50 PM
Post by: delzep on November 19, 2018, 09:26:50 PM
OK, I think this will be my plan
This pump with 1/2" stem outlet - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07589GXKT/ref=twister_B07JQ5MWWS?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07589GXKT/ref=twister_B07JQ5MWWS?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1) with silicone hose (with jubilee clip) on that stem outlet. At the other end of the silicone hose I'll get a 1/2" stem x 3/8" JG fitting which I can attach my beer line to. Will get another fitting for 5/16" line too.
Should work O0
This pump with 1/2" stem outlet - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07589GXKT/ref=twister_B07JQ5MWWS?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07589GXKT/ref=twister_B07JQ5MWWS?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1) with silicone hose (with jubilee clip) on that stem outlet. At the other end of the silicone hose I'll get a 1/2" stem x 3/8" JG fitting which I can attach my beer line to. Will get another fitting for 5/16" line too.
Should work O0
Title: Re: Cleaning beer lines
Post by: Sokratees9 on February 09, 2020, 12:12:02 PM
Post by: Sokratees9 on February 09, 2020, 12:12:02 PM
Some good info in here. I've just emptied my first keg and now need to think about cleaning the line. Going to buy a pump, but I still don't know what I need to buy to connect the line from the pump to the corny keg connector on the beer line. I know it's the valve part that is on the keg, but I don't know where to buy that part, or if there is a good workaround for it. Any links or ideas would be great
Or should I just take the corny keg connector off (it's got a JG) and dump it in the beer line solution and just connect the line from the pump to the beer line via another JG? I think that's what the last poster is suggesting
Or should I just take the corny keg connector off (it's got a JG) and dump it in the beer line solution and just connect the line from the pump to the beer line via another JG? I think that's what the last poster is suggesting
Title: Re: Cleaning beer lines
Post by: Pheeel on February 09, 2020, 04:37:27 PM
Post by: Pheeel on February 09, 2020, 04:37:27 PM
I have one of these. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B002NLMBOM
I have a small hose with a liquid corny post at the end which fits in the top of the pump. I do about 15 mins with oxy, 10 rinse and 10 sanitiser
I have a small hose with a liquid corny post at the end which fits in the top of the pump. I do about 15 mins with oxy, 10 rinse and 10 sanitiser
Title: Re: Cleaning beer lines
Post by: Pheeel on February 09, 2020, 06:45:12 PM
Post by: Pheeel on February 09, 2020, 06:45:12 PM
Piccy
Title: Re: Cleaning beer lines
Post by: Sokratees9 on February 12, 2020, 01:18:00 AM
Post by: Sokratees9 on February 12, 2020, 01:18:00 AM
Ah yes, that is what I need, and I just realised that one of my connectors for the corny kegs is not JG, so my plan wouldn't quite work! Where can I buy the corny keg post though? I did a search around on google and found this:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/201694303679?chn=ps&var=501469822548&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=501469822548_201694303679&targetid=855313181933&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=1007276&campaignid=6619151996&mkgroupid=88031187549&rlsatarget=pla-855313181933&abcId=1140496&merchantid=113532009&gclid=CjwKCAiAvonyBRB7EiwAadauqaGZ_lm8Ml_NJ9p-D3_eSwIUoeGYKkef3LL1KXjYHkQ5h325f_yErhoC5ekQAvD_BwE
But it didn't have a barb like yours, which I think would be ideal
I bought a pump already, so nearly ready to go
https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/201694303679?chn=ps&var=501469822548&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=501469822548_201694303679&targetid=855313181933&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=1007276&campaignid=6619151996&mkgroupid=88031187549&rlsatarget=pla-855313181933&abcId=1140496&merchantid=113532009&gclid=CjwKCAiAvonyBRB7EiwAadauqaGZ_lm8Ml_NJ9p-D3_eSwIUoeGYKkef3LL1KXjYHkQ5h325f_yErhoC5ekQAvD_BwE
But it didn't have a barb like yours, which I think would be ideal
I bought a pump already, so nearly ready to go
Title: Re: Cleaning beer lines
Post by: Sokratees9 on February 12, 2020, 01:32:49 AM
Post by: Sokratees9 on February 12, 2020, 01:32:49 AM
Ok, so from a bit of further seaching, I think I need the following:
3/8" Barb x 1/4" FPT
1/4" MPT x 19/32" Plug Adapter
19/32 Ball Lock Liquid Post
Anyone the best places (Ireland or UK) to pick up these things? Obviously I'll google around, and might find what I need quickly, but any good recommendations would be great. Or if there is simply a single piece I can buy (the one in the photo looks like one piece), that would be perfect.
3/8" Barb x 1/4" FPT
1/4" MPT x 19/32" Plug Adapter
19/32 Ball Lock Liquid Post
Anyone the best places (Ireland or UK) to pick up these things? Obviously I'll google around, and might find what I need quickly, but any good recommendations would be great. Or if there is simply a single piece I can buy (the one in the photo looks like one piece), that would be perfect.
Title: Re: Cleaning beer lines
Post by: pob on February 12, 2020, 11:23:21 AM
Post by: pob on February 12, 2020, 11:23:21 AM
Stainless Carbonator with 5/16" Barb (https://www.thehomebrewcompany.ie/stainless-carbonator-with-516-barb-p-3414.html) from Homebrew Company, €14.95
Or cheaper from China, but a 3-5 week delivery.
Or cheaper from China, but a 3-5 week delivery.
Title: Re: Cleaning beer lines
Post by: Pheeel on February 12, 2020, 01:41:05 PM
Post by: Pheeel on February 12, 2020, 01:41:05 PM
Quote from: pob on February 12, 2020, 11:23:21 AM
Stainless Carbonator with 5/16" Barb (https://www.thehomebrewcompany.ie/stainless-carbonator-with-516-barb-p-3414.html) from Homebrew Company, €14.95
Or cheaper from China, but a 3-5 week delivery.
I think I got mine off Ali but that's the same idea
Title: Re: Cleaning beer lines
Post by: dcalnan on February 12, 2020, 03:54:52 PM
Post by: dcalnan on February 12, 2020, 03:54:52 PM
Just remember an post have stopped deliveries from China. So buying from the homebrew company, or a European shop is probably the best way.
Title: Re: Cleaning beer lines
Post by: Raxy on February 12, 2020, 04:37:25 PM
Post by: Raxy on February 12, 2020, 04:37:25 PM
website says they've stopped all mail going to China, not from. In saying that I've had an item that shows with last mile carrier for 2 weeks but no sign of delivery :(
Just spoke to an post. It is all post too & from.
Just spoke to an post. It is all post too & from.
Title: Re: Cleaning beer lines
Post by: Sokratees9 on February 12, 2020, 11:03:59 PM
Post by: Sokratees9 on February 12, 2020, 11:03:59 PM
The cerbonator looks like just the job, but it sounds like (from the description) that it is for the gas side, but I want to hook it up to the beer out line. I know there are slight differences in the ball lock connectors so you can't do that, so I'd be surprised this would work for both. It's not a problem if the fit isn't perfect, as the cleaning fluid will jsut run back down the line into the bottle, as long as there is enough of a fit for it to also push the cleaning fluid up and out the tap at the top.
Title: Re: Cleaning beer lines
Post by: dcalnan on February 16, 2020, 12:38:05 PM
Post by: dcalnan on February 16, 2020, 12:38:05 PM
Most of those carbonation fittings are designed to fit gas and liquid.
Title: Re: Cleaning beer lines
Post by: Sokratees9 on February 19, 2020, 12:21:32 PM
Post by: Sokratees9 on February 19, 2020, 12:21:32 PM
Cheers, then I'll give that a go