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Title: Hop strainer problems
Post by: Mike on December 21, 2012, 05:06:26 PM
I made my AG equipment a while back and I used the stainless steel shell of a pipe (which is like chain mail) as a hop strainer.  It worked fine on the first batch (albeit I had to wiggle it a bit) but the on the last two batches it has become clogged leading to a very slow flow/dribble and in the end I have had to pour the batch through a sive.  Is there something I can do to the hop strainer to make it perform better or should I try another type?

http://imgur.com/dEjKv#.UNSVu5IBR5U.email
Title: Re: Hop strainer problems
Post by: Spud395 on December 21, 2012, 05:37:31 PM
They can be troublesome.

When I had a bucket set up (very like yours) I had good luck with a length of 1/2" copper with 2mm holes drilled in it. Only time I had hassle was the time I forgot to fit it before the boil  :-[

I use a keggle now and have an upsidedown colander which does the job nicely.
Not used one like yours although I've seen them quiet a bit so there must be a way of making them work.
Do you have anything inside to stop it crushing and closing the holes? I've seen lads put short pieces of copper pipe it there to support it, maybe!
Title: Re: Hop strainer problems
Post by: Jacob on December 21, 2012, 05:48:02 PM
Never had any problem with it, however not using it as a hop strainer but as a filter when mashing. Have u tried to stir around it to remove hops from it?
Title: Re: Hop strainer problems
Post by: Mike on December 21, 2012, 08:04:00 PM
I'm a hop fan so generally there are too many hops in it to get a good stir going. 

I had thought of putting something in it like a length of copper pipe.  I was wondering if it'd be better just to replace it with a length of drilled copper pipe?
Title: Re: Hop strainer problems
Post by: Ciderhead on December 21, 2012, 08:15:57 PM
I had one of these

(http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj605/joctcl/photo2-1.jpg)
(http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj605/joctcl/photo1-1.jpg)


Before I started using one of these

(http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj605/joctcl/IMG_1036.jpg)
Title: Re: Hop strainer problems
Post by: Mike on December 22, 2012, 10:20:15 AM
Yeah I think that's a strong solution.

This is my APA today.  I'm worrying because I had to pour through a sive, does it look ok or could that be an infection?  It still smells good.
Title: Re: Hop strainer problems
Post by: Will_D on December 22, 2012, 10:40:32 AM
Nothing to worry about.

Some top cropping yeasts like US-05 have these dark spots as normal, they are justr drying out & autolysing old yeast.

Perfectly normal.

Now naturally there are at least two opions on what to do:

1. Do nowt and maybe get a flavour off the brown bits

2. Regualarly skim the brown bits off the top. This removes the flavour risks BUT ups the likelyhood of contamination greatly.

Personnaly I leave well alone

Will
Title: Re: Hop strainer problems
Post by: Mike on December 22, 2012, 11:06:32 AM
Cheers. Will leave it alone so!
Title: Re: Hop strainer problems
Post by: Will_D on December 22, 2012, 11:50:36 AM
QuoteI made my AG equipment a while back and I used the stainless steel shell of a pipe (which is like chain mail) as a hop strainer.  It worked fine on the first batch (albeit I had to wiggle it a bit) but the on the last two batches it has become clogged leading to a very slow flow/dribble and in the end I have had to pour the batch through a sive.  Is there something I can do to the hop strainer to make it perform better or should I try another type?

http://imgur.com/dEjKv#.UNSVu5IBR5U.email

The problem is there are too many wires in the weave.

These braids usually have 4 or 5 strands running parallel to each other and braided against the others.

What you could do is cut every other and pull them out. That way the weave is 50% less dense. Tedious but would work. Maybe quicker to go the copper route

Will

Title: Re: Hop strainer problems
Post by: Mike on December 22, 2012, 02:13:02 PM
Will try that first. Is it damaging to the beer to pour it through a sive?
Title: Re: Hop strainer problems
Post by: Ciderhead on December 22, 2012, 03:02:53 PM
QuoteWill try that first. Is it damaging to the beer to pour it through a sive?

At the end of the boil to get oxygen in prior to pitching yeast, a lot of home brewers in the US pass through a STERILISED sieve
Title: Re: Hop strainer problems
Post by: RichC on January 01, 2013, 12:16:58 AM
I tried various solutions and finally this works best:
(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n494/Larsoo/E64CCF5B-2E01-4F50-9D31-F4876D08308B-2010-0000017A86A029AE.jpg)
(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n494/Larsoo/88BB1E5C-E6E7-4D9F-85EE-9B927BD2D350-2010-0000017A8B87EA92.jpg)
However, I did have a problem with a load of pellets recently(I f**king hate pellets) . Will use a hopsock with pellets from now on
Title: Re: Hop strainer problems
Post by: Ciderhead on January 01, 2013, 01:36:44 PM
Simpler design to my hop spider above

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFxuooOKe4o[/media]
Title: Re: Hop strainer problems
Post by: Ciderhead on January 01, 2013, 02:39:13 PM
Lars hop strainer reminded me of a simple timber template i knocked up for those wishing to cut defined depths with a jigsaw blade into copper pipe for a hop strainer or fly sparge


You can see you insert your pipe, slide your jigsaw along until it hits the stop and you have a uniform depth cut along your pipe length. Much easier than a Dremmel or hack saw.

(http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj605/joctcl/image_zps5ecc4507.jpg)
Title: Re: Hop strainer problems
Post by: JimmyM on January 07, 2013, 03:14:49 PM
Good solution!!! - I have just built my whole kitchen from scratch - alot of routing and cutting - I swear by jigs n templates.
Jigs n templates has a nice ring to it - could be a show on rte.
Title: Re: Hop strainer problems
Post by: Shane Phelan on January 07, 2013, 04:36:02 PM
Right! I'm making one of these! :)

Just bought the paint strainer bags off ebay (http://www.ebay.ie/itm/5-GALLON-PAINT-STRAINER-BAGS-6-PACK-HOMEBREW-BEER-MILK-JAM-COMPOST-TEA-/370657139103?pt=UK_DIY_Material_Paint_Varnish_MJ&hash=item564ce3199f#ht_519wt_889).

Looks like I will have bags left over if anyone wants one.
Title: Re: Hop strainer problems
Post by: JimmyM on January 07, 2013, 04:53:47 PM
What are ya making?
Is it the bag for putting hops in during the boil?
Id buy a bag or 2 off ya.
Title: Re: Hop strainer problems
Post by: Shane Phelan on January 07, 2013, 05:02:01 PM
Yeah, the video Ciderhead posted convinced me.  :)
Title: Re: Hop strainer problems
Post by: Ciderhead on January 07, 2013, 07:18:44 PM
QuoteRight! I'm making one of these! :)

Just bought the paint strainer bags off ebay (http://www.ebay.ie/itm/5-GALLON-PAINT-STRAINER-BAGS-6-PACK-HOMEBREW-BEER-MILK-JAM-COMPOST-TEA-/370657139103?pt=UK_DIY_Material_Paint_Varnish_MJ&hash=item564ce3199f#ht_519wt_889).

Looks like I will have bags left over if anyone wants one.


Hang on to a few yourself each one will do 10 boils and then I just found myself slinging them.
Title: Re: Hop strainer problems
Post by: Shane Phelan on January 07, 2013, 07:22:21 PM
Thanks for the tip, didn't realise that.
Title: Re: Hop strainer problems
Post by: Ciderhead on January 07, 2013, 07:39:03 PM
QuoteThanks for the tip, didn't realise that.

They didn't break or deteriorate or anything and would probably go longer ( just my OCD kicking in again) I won't drink milk on BB date either ::)
I give them a good wash under a hose and air dry them afterwards 
Title: Re: Hop strainer problems
Post by: Shane Phelan on January 08, 2013, 02:19:15 PM
I normally throw my small hop/grain bags in the washing machine with the clothes..... :-?