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Title: Best NEIPA Hops???
Post by: JMK8 on March 13, 2019, 10:10:28 PM
Hi all, I am making a NEIPA and I will be double dry hopping with about 20-25g per litre.  I am thinking of going with galaxy, mosiac, el dorado and azacca.  I want a real stone fruit flavour juice bomb NEIPA.  ABV will be around 6.5-7.5% that's to be decided.

Thanks
Title: Re: Best NEIPA Hops???
Post by: mick02 on March 13, 2019, 10:15:49 PM
Quote from: JMK8 on March 13, 2019, 10:10:28 PM
Hi all, I am making a NEIPA and I will be double dry hopping with about 20-25g per litre.  I am thinking of going with galaxy, mosiac, el dorado and azacca.  I want a real stone fruit flavour juice bomb NEIPA.  ABV will be around 6.5-7.5% that's to be decided.

Thanks
Howya horse? You're on to a winner with that combo, I would also suggest citra and/or equanot too either as well as or in place of some of the ones you've already mentioned. If you're doing a NEIPA then I can't stress strongly enough that you use the freshest hops available to you. There's no point in brewing that style and not investing in the freshest hops. I would also advise in saving some cash by not ddh the beer. In my experience there is not a lot to be gained by ddh. If you've got fresh ingredients then only 1 dry hop will get you where you a great NEIPA.
Title: Re: Best NEIPA Hops???
Post by: JMK8 on March 13, 2019, 10:34:37 PM
My last IPA I did a single dry hop at 12.5 grams per litre with citra, mosiac, el dorado and galaxy and it turned out great.  I just wanted to be a bit bolder with the hop flavour this time.  Funny equanot, citra, simcoe and vic secret where the other hops I was considering.  After reading your reply it might just depend on what is the freshest hops I can get my hands on.  Thanks for the reply!
Title: Re: Best NEIPA Hops???
Post by: pob on March 14, 2019, 07:39:57 AM
Are you using water addictions? If not, will have quite an effect on hop flavour & aroma.
Title: Re: Best NEIPA Hops???
Post by: JMK8 on March 14, 2019, 08:31:07 AM
No not at the minute.  I only started homebrewing last October.  It's something I don't actually know much about as I only brew 5-10litre batches at a time, but something I have been reading more into.  Do you need to get your water tested before carrying out any additions to know more about it's chemistry?
Title: Re: Best NEIPA Hops???
Post by: pob on March 14, 2019, 10:45:34 AM
Yep, need to get it tested or depending if you are on the same stable water source as an existing brewer they may have one, you could use. (Hint: get down to your local homebrew club & get loads of handy advice; they don't bite, well normally don't ;))

In the meantime, you could use Tesco's Ashbeck water as a good neutral base (as recommended by Dr Jacoby).

Without correct water profile/additions, you can waste a lot of money throwing hops at your beers, where they appear muted/dull. It's like cooking food without salt, it just allows them to shine through. A years supply of waters salts & a micro/accurate scales cost ~€15.

If you are using BeerSmith, have a look here (https://gcbrewers.wordpress.com/adding-water-profiles-to-beersmith/) & here (https://gcbrewers.wordpress.com/beersmith-water-profiles/).

Potentially you could end up using less hops to get the same result, without any of the grassy/vegetal effects of using wheelbarrow loads.
Title: Re: Best NEIPA Hops???
Post by: JMK8 on March 14, 2019, 03:42:53 PM
Unfortunately I am not near any homebrewing clubs I am about an hour or more away from the only two I know up north.  Might be worth looking into getting my water tested.  Thanks for the advice!
Title: Re: Best NEIPA Hops???
Post by: molc on March 15, 2019, 08:46:25 AM
Neipa is one of the few styles where you really need to tweak the water for chlorides and sulphates, otherwise you don't get the smoothest.

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Title: Re: Best NEIPA Hops???
Post by: Jonnycheech on March 15, 2019, 09:47:29 AM
Yeah NEIPA water chemistry is definitely different to standard IPA water. I think common thinking is that the chloride:sulphate ratio should be at least 1:1, where the chloride doesn't go over 200ppm. I've heard of some pushing it to 3:1 to really pump the mouthfeel up.

I'd try 1:1 initially if you are going to mess with the water, and 2:1 for the next batch to compare. Hopefully it turns out great, it's a lovely style when done well, and dangerously drinkable at high abv.