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Brewing Discussions => All Grain Brewing => Topic started by: TheSumOfAllBeers on April 24, 2019, 04:03:55 PM

Title: WHC glucoamylase enzyme
Post by: TheSumOfAllBeers on April 24, 2019, 04:03:55 PM
I have a problem with a pilsner I made that stalled at 1.022 (from 1.049). I have tried every trick in the book that I know of to get this to ferment further, including pitching more yeast etc. No joy, so I am going to assume that this has hit terminal and that is 22 gravity points of unfermentable sugar.

I would like to bring this down by about 8-10 points, by use of enzymes to make those sugars more fermentable. But information on how to do this in a controlled way is really lacking.

To reiterate, I am looking for an enzyme that can break down long chain sugars into more fermentable ones at room temperature/ fermentation temperature. But I dont want to dry the beer out completely.

Would something like this work?

http://www.thehomebrewcompany.ie/whc-irish-glucoamylase-enzyme-15ml-p-4855.html

And what would its dosage requirements be, to take 55L of 22 gravity wort to 1.014 ? I dont want to overshoot obviously.

Any other useful products? Most of the literature out there assumes you are trying to dry out a kit beer that got stuck very high, or you want to make spiriits of fix starch haze in a wine.
Title: Re: WHC glucoamylase enzyme
Post by: mick02 on April 24, 2019, 04:11:25 PM
Just beware that there is no way to control these enzymes once you've added them (short of pasteurizing the beer) so if you do add the amolayse be prepared to take your beer to 1.000. Check out the use of alpha amolayse in Brut IPAs. You might pick up some tips on how it behaves.
Title: Re: WHC glucoamylase enzyme
Post by: TheSumOfAllBeers on April 24, 2019, 06:02:28 PM
Yeah, I want to eye drop them in to knock a few points off, making a Brut pilsner is probably the worst possible result.

But your pasteurising comment gave me an idea- I could draw off 10L from the bottom of  the conical into a 10L growler keg, let that ferment down to zero, pasteurise/denature that in the boil kettle and then mix it back into the FV.

That would get me down to 1.018, at which point I stop screwing with it.

It's an option I guess.
Title: Re: WHC glucoamylase enzyme
Post by: DEMPSEY on April 24, 2019, 06:05:08 PM
Some others I know used it and it dropped to 1008 so it does work.
Title: Re: WHC glucoamylase enzyme
Post by: CH on April 25, 2019, 02:53:28 PM
Have you tasted it? Does it taste like a 1022?
Title: Re: WHC glucoamylase enzyme
Post by: eanna on April 30, 2019, 03:55:46 PM
The WHC stuff is this https://www.erbsloeh-craft-brewing.com/en/products/detail/id/6 so the dose is miniscule, unless WHC have diluted the smaller versions for ease of dispense.

"50 – 100 mL/t of malt or 1 – 3 mL/100 L during fermentation or 2 – 4 mL/100 L in beer during maturation."

I have no idea where it would make your beer finish up.