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Title: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on April 18, 2013, 01:31:19 PM
Alright lads, let's see if we have the numbers to fill this monster, or whether we need to lean on people..  ;)

1. Paddy Bubbles - 25 litres
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on April 18, 2013, 02:41:20 PM
Btw, our target volume is 163 litres.  :o ??? :D
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: joc on April 18, 2013, 03:55:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmL3m2zcoOI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmL3m2zcoOI)
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shane Phelan on April 18, 2013, 07:08:16 PM
I'm limited by the size of a corny keg for transport.

1. Paddy Bubbles - 25 litres
2. Shiny - 19 litres
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shanna on April 18, 2013, 07:12:43 PM
Shiny if you have a larger fermenter could you not use it for transport?  If you don't have a larger fermenter I might be able to lend you a 33 ltr job. I can also help you transport it via car if your stuck for transport.

Shanna
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shane Phelan on April 18, 2013, 07:54:53 PM
Yeah I do but it was more for practical reasons of getting to your place on the Dart.

I probably wouldn't have a huge amount more than that anyway.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shanna on April 18, 2013, 08:48:26 PM
My place is 25 minutes walk up the top of a step hill from the dart. As far as I remember you live out the ballsbridge area so no great  food me to collect you when the time comes. Might do a run and pick paddy b on the way. 

Shanna

PS: Changed the word hook to hill
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shanna on April 18, 2013, 09:36:17 PM
1. Paddy Bubbles - 25 litres
2. Shiny - 19 litres
3. Shanna - 20 litres

Total: 64 - 99 remaining
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: joc on April 19, 2013, 12:13:00 PM
Quote from: Shanna on April 18, 2013, 09:36:17 PM
1. Paddy Bubbles - 25 litres
2. Shiny - 19 litres
3. Shanna - 20 litres

Total: 64 - 99 remaining

Put me on and contributors from Wicklow on your reserve list if you need to make the numbers up.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on April 19, 2013, 12:35:49 PM
John, we don't have a "reserve" list!! We don't have that luxury at this stage!  :)

We need committed signups, and we need em now! Send your Wicklow brewers over to us. (I'm not posting in the Lady Garden forum again after my last attempt... savages in there..  ;) :D)

Rossa, Padraic, any chance you could comment with your expected contributions?

Cheers all.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Ciderhead on April 19, 2013, 12:41:12 PM
No Barrel Will go unfilled didn't want to preclude other South Dublin members, will watch the post and pm us what you need.
We have Novice Kit Extract Brewers paired up with AG folks so no probs there on numbers. 
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on April 19, 2013, 02:31:40 PM
Quote from: Ciderhead on April 19, 2013, 12:41:12 PM
No Barrel Will go unfilled didn't want to preclude other South Dublin members, will watch the post and pm us what you need.
We have Novice Kit Extract Brewers paired up with AG folks so no probs there on numbers.

That's the spirit dude. Thanks for that.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Ciderhead on April 19, 2013, 03:17:30 PM
Hey "Dude" have you been watching finding nemo with the kids again :)
Don't you dare come back with a "Totally Rocks"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbkQ4EMYfww
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on April 19, 2013, 04:56:45 PM
It's "totally rawks"!

Grandad!!
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Rossa on April 20, 2013, 05:19:54 PM
I'm in.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on April 20, 2013, 06:58:56 PM
I'd hope so, it's your recipe!  ;)

How many litres can we stick you down for?
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Rossa on April 21, 2013, 10:56:39 AM
I think Padraic is in too . I can do whatever is needed but I'd say increments of 20l. But one batch would be better.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shanna on April 21, 2013, 08:57:05 PM
Got my mash tun pretty much finished today, I fitted the insulation to the outside of mash tun.I need some good strong cling film/plastic shrink wrap and then I can finish it off.  I tested the barrel I did from tog and thankfully there were no leaks :-) Made some space in the shed today to store the barrel. I also started measuring and cutting the wood for my brewing table. I hope to finish the table mid week and then it will only be sight glasses left to fit assuming they arrive in time to be used.

Shanna
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Ciderhead on April 21, 2013, 09:43:58 PM

1. Paddy Bubbles - 25 litres
2. Shiny - 19 litres
3. Shanna - 20 litres
4. Cider head 20-25

Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on April 22, 2013, 10:02:33 AM
1. Paddy Bubbles - 25 litres
2. Shiny - 19 litres
3. Shanna - 20 litres
4. Cider head - 20-25 litres
5. Rossa - 20 litres
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on April 23, 2013, 10:14:33 AM
We're currently up to 104 litres. Come on, you stragglers!
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Ciderhead on April 24, 2013, 05:02:30 PM
Barrel size
http://nationalhomebrewclub.com/forum/index.php/topic,851.msg26599.html#msg26599
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on April 24, 2013, 07:07:07 PM
Quote180 litres

Well feck it anyway!  :'(

What's our plan of attack lads??
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Rossa on April 24, 2013, 07:16:05 PM
SO we are 5. Can did we not have 6? Was Padraic not in too? Ciderhead also?
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on April 24, 2013, 08:30:49 PM
Padraic's not going to be joining us. Ambitious fellow that he is, he's got 3 other barrel projects on the go!  :D

Not sure about Ciderhead...

"FOR SALE - 2 Garden Planters - €25 each ono. Will include pissed daffodils for free"
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shanna on April 24, 2013, 09:42:11 PM
Hi Paddy Bubble

I would be willing to try make a 2nd 20ltr batch but I am thinking what am I going to do with 40ltrs of 10% beer ;-)

I suspect I might need some help to get that 2nd batch done.

Was wondering if we would get away with not filling it completely?

Shanna
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: mcgrath on April 24, 2013, 09:52:36 PM
When you doing your brews? I worked out how much the grain and hops would cost for this and it came in around 45 euro to buy everything online. Have you any cost saving plans buying grain as a group etc. Might join in if you still need people .
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shanna on April 24, 2013, 10:28:06 PM
Hi McGrath

See links for talk of grain bulk buy and hops buy

http://nationalhomebrewclub.com/forum/index.php/topic,2217.msg26693.html#new

http://nationalhomebrewclub.com/forum/index.php/topic,2214.msg26690.html#new

Shanna

Ps. Where are you based? Love to have you on board as we need some additional help to get this barrel filled.

Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: mcgrath on April 25, 2013, 10:24:16 AM
I'm in Swords. I'll look into the group buys after work. Thanks for the links...
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: John_C on April 25, 2013, 12:42:43 PM
I won't be able to get a brew on for about 2-3 weeks.
I don't know if that's too late to be of any help but I'll contribute if you all think it's possible.

I can make 13 litres with my set-up.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Ciderhead on April 25, 2013, 05:50:40 PM
Just popped by to see how's she cutting as we are all done in wickla and ready to go, no spares to contribute to SDB though apart from myself :'(
What happened here?
How can we get this back on track?
I bought all the ingredients for wickla and including barrel for 200L its working out at €25 a head
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: andrewL46 on April 25, 2013, 06:20:28 PM
I could be tempted to join in on this one too, wouldn't like to see it go down the swany!
Only thing stopping me is FV space and the timing between this one and the wickala one.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Ciderhead on April 25, 2013, 06:34:22 PM
Good man, we can show them how its done.
Frankly I thought SCD would be swamped, then forgot you all Drink Heino ;)
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on April 25, 2013, 07:06:39 PM
Yeah Ciderhead, it's been a bit of a let down to be honest. We had a good level of interest from people so myself and Shanna decided to press on with it. But a couple of people have backed out and other expressions of interest just haven't materialised into firm commitments.

We don't want to leave the barrel unfilled too long. I'm going to be pretty pissed off having lost 50 lids, and Shanna's going to have a great big barrel taking up space in his workshop while we decide what to do with it.

Andrew, JohnC, mcgrath, thanks for your interest, all contributions are welcome, regardless of the volume.

Let's give it a few more days anyway - just put your name down on the list above if you want to commit. We should aim to get brewing in the next week or so.

Cheers lads.

 
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shanna on April 25, 2013, 07:18:15 PM
Hi PaddyB

We will make sure that your not left out of pocket re the barrel. I talked you into it. I ordered a bunch of speciality malt yesterday so no going back.

Shanna
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shane Phelan on April 25, 2013, 07:20:44 PM
I have ordered a fair bit of hops for it too...I will probably brew the recipe regardless though.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Ciderhead on April 25, 2013, 07:22:47 PM
Come on folks, if Cara and Padraic can do one between them ;)

1. Paddy Bubbles - 25 litres
2. Shiny - 19 litres
3. Shanna - 20 litres
4. Cider head - 20-25 litres   45L if required
5. Rossa - 20 litres

They are potentially 200L barrels
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on April 25, 2013, 07:50:50 PM
Quote from: Shanna on April 25, 2013, 07:18:15 PM
Hi PaddyB

We will make sure that your not left out of pocket re the barrel. I talked you into it. I ordered a bunch of speciality malt yesterday so no going back.

Shanna

Thanks man.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on April 25, 2013, 07:52:38 PM
Quote from: andrewL46 on April 25, 2013, 06:20:28 PM
I could be tempted to join in on this one too, wouldn't like to see it go down the swany!
Only thing stopping me is FV space and the timing between this one and the wickala one.

Andrew, would be great if you could throw another 25 litres into this. Would it be possible for to get a loan of a fermenter for the 3 weeks or so?
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on April 25, 2013, 07:54:26 PM
Quote from: shiny on April 25, 2013, 07:20:44 PM
I have ordered a fair bit of hops for it too...I will probably brew the recipe regardless though.

I thought I might brew the recipe regardless too, but I just don't have the capacity at the moment (in bottles) to store that amount of 10% beer. I'm hoping for a nice lengthy aging period in the barrel so that I can get my bottles together.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shanna on April 25, 2013, 07:54:38 PM
Quote from: Ciderhead on April 25, 2013, 07:22:47 PM
Come on folks, if Cara and Padraic can do one between them ;)

1. Paddy Bubbles - 25 litres
2. Shiny - 19 litres
3. Shanna - 40 litres (I must be fucking crazy)
4. Cider head - 20-25 litres   45L if required
5. Rossa - 20 litres

They are potentially 200L barrels
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on April 25, 2013, 07:55:45 PM
Quote from: Shanna on April 25, 2013, 07:54:38 PM
Quote from: Ciderhead on April 25, 2013, 07:22:47 PM
Come on folks, if Cara and Padraic can do one between them ;)

1. Paddy Bubbles - 25 litres
2. Shiny - 19 litres
3. Shanna - 40 litres (I must be fucking crazy)
4. Cider head - 20-25 litres   45L if required
5. Rossa - 20 litres

They are potentially 200L barrels

Shit, we're wheeling out the big guns now!  ;D
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Ciderhead on April 25, 2013, 07:56:16 PM
Quote from: andrewL46 on April 25, 2013, 06:20:28 PM
I could be tempted to join in on this one too, wouldn't like to see it go down the swany!
Only thing stopping me is FV space and the timing between this one and the wickala one.

I have more FV buckets than sense don't let that stop ya!

Come on PB step up!!
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on April 25, 2013, 07:57:36 PM
Quote from: Ciderhead on April 25, 2013, 07:22:47 PM
Come on folks, if Cara and Padraic can do one between them ;)

1. Paddy Bubbles - 25 litres
2. Shiny - 19 litres
3. Shanna - 20 litres
4. Cider head - 20-25 litres   45L if required
5. Rossa - 20 litres

They are potentially 200L barrels

Ciderhead, that's a heroic effort, thank you.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on April 25, 2013, 08:01:07 PM
Ok, it's not going to make a shite of a difference, but I've revised mine ever so slightly. I'll be doing 2 x 15 litre batches. With loss to trub, I'd say 27 litres is more realistic.

We now stand at:

1. Paddy Bubbles - 27 litres
2. Shiny - 19 litres
3. Shanna - 40 litres
4. Cider head - 20-25 litres   45L if required
5. Rossa - 20 litres

Andrew, come on!  ;)
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shane Phelan on April 25, 2013, 08:04:29 PM
Right, fuck this. I can do 40 if that lift is still on offer Shanna?  ;)

1. Paddy Bubbles - 27 litres
2. Shiny - 40 litres
3. Shanna - 40 litres
4. Cider head - 20-25 litres   45L if required
5. Rossa - 20 litres
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Will_D on April 25, 2013, 08:06:35 PM
Quote from: mcgrath on April 25, 2013, 10:24:16 AM
I'm in Swords. I'll look into the group buys after work. Thanks for the links...
What all the time?? Do you live in Swords? Have you heard of the North County Brewers?
Or am I just having a senior momemt!!
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Ciderhead on April 25, 2013, 08:07:44 PM
Quote from: Paddy Bubbles on April 25, 2013, 08:01:07 PM
Ok, it's not going to make a shite of a difference, but I've revised mine ever so slightly. I'll be doing 2 x 15 litre batches. With loss to trub, I'd say 27 litres is more realistic.

We now stand at:

1. Paddy Bubbles - 27 litres
2. Shiny - 40 litres
3. Shanna - 40 litres
4. Cider head - 20-25 litres   45L if required
5. Rossa - 20 litres

Andrew, come on!  ;)

Ok was talking to Jimmy tonight and I know he will come on board, we are 9 ish with Andrew and Jimmy and need 10-11

Ok folks now be quick as you are going to miss out.

If any of you amateurs are worried about expectations don't be, we did "Brew Buddies" in Wicklow so a novice was paired with an expert meaning that you shadow one brew and then brew yourself or borrow equipment.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shanna on April 25, 2013, 08:12:38 PM
Absolutely lift is on offer.  Group brew night is still a possibility for the bank holiday weekend also. Realistically brew will take approx 4 to 5 hours by the time strike water is kicked off and last vessel is cleaned. I gave a hlt I can use to boil water with a 5.5 kw element so this should help.

Shanna

Quote from: shiny on April 25, 2013, 08:04:29 PM
Right, crappity smack this. I can do 40 if that lift is still on offer Shanna?  ;)

1. Paddy Bubbles - 27 litres
2. Shiny - 40 litres
3. Shanna - 40 litres
4. Cider head - 20-25 litres   45L if required
5. Rossa - 20 litres
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shanna on April 25, 2013, 08:19:38 PM

Hi there

Ok electrician brother has put the kibosh on multiple simultaneous boilers on the go. Shed wiring won't take b the extra voltage Unfortunately.  Offer of lift to Blackrock is still on Shiny just means only one brew will be done.

Shanna
Quote from: Shanna on April 25, 2013, 08:12:38 PM
Absolutely lift is on offer.  Group brew night is still a possibility for the bank holiday weekend also. Realistically brew will take approx 4 to 5 hours by the time strike water is kicked off and last vessel is cleaned. I gave a hlt I can use to boil water with a 5.5 kw element so this should help.

Shanna

Quote from: shiny on April 25, 2013, 08:04:29 PM
Right, crappity smack this. I can do 40 if that lift is still on offer Shanna?  ;)

1. Paddy Bubbles - 27 litres
2. Shiny - 40 litres
3. Shanna - 40 litres
4. Cider head - 20-25 litres   45L if required
5. Rossa - 20 litres
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shane Phelan on April 25, 2013, 08:24:44 PM
I was more referring to a lift with fermented wort on the day we are filling it, its probably easier for me to brew it here and then bring it over when its done? I might need to borrow a bucket from someone, I didn't anticipate having 3 brews on at the one time. The girlfriend doesn't know about any of this yet.... :o
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shanna on April 25, 2013, 08:50:02 PM
No problem with the lift off a full fermenter. Dare I say you probably need to get two extra buckets if your planning to decant to a secondary.

Shanna
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Ciderhead on April 25, 2013, 09:10:35 PM
or a spare bucket/s
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shane Phelan on April 25, 2013, 09:41:44 PM
Thanks lads!  :)
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: mcgrath on April 25, 2013, 09:43:54 PM
Quote from: Will_D on April 25, 2013, 08:06:35 PM
Quote from: mcgrath on April 25, 2013, 10:24:16 AM
I'm in Swords. I'll look into the group buys after work. Thanks for the links...
What all the time?? Do you live in Swords? Have you heard of the North County Brewers?
Or am I just having a senior momemt!!
I was at last meet Will. But you have your quota of people. I'm doing a batch for liffey too. I'll make up the numbers on this if needed. Any decision on yeast yet? Or did I miss that.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shanna on April 25, 2013, 09:48:21 PM
See http://nationalhomebrewclub.com/forum/index.php/topic,1156.msg14292.html#msg14292 for recipe details.

Shanna


Quote from: mcgrath on April 25, 2013, 09:43:54 PM
Quote from: Will_D on April 25, 2013, 08:06:35 PM
Quote from: mcgrath on April 25, 2013, 10:24:16 AM
I'm in Swords. I'll look into the group buys after work. Thanks for the links...
What all the time?? Do you live in Swords? Have you heard of the North County Brewers?
Or am I just having a senior momemt!!
I was at last meet Will. But you have your quota of people. I'm doing a batch for liffey too. I'll make up the numbers on this if needed. Any decision on yeast yet? Or did I miss that.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Will_D on April 25, 2013, 09:49:03 PM
Quote from: mcgrath on April 25, 2013, 09:43:54 PM
Quote from: Will_D on April 25, 2013, 08:06:35 PM
Quote from: mcgrath on April 25, 2013, 10:24:16 AM
I'm in Swords. I'll look into the group buys after work. Thanks for the links...
What all the time?? Do you live in Swords? Have you heard of the North County Brewers?
Or am I just having a senior momemt!!
I was at last meet Will. But you have your quota of people. I'm doing a batch for liffey too. I'll make up the numbers on this if needed. Any decision on yeast yet? Or did I miss that.
Sorry Kieran,

Yep Senior moment! I do find it difficult with various avatars/handles/names.

Happypollogies!!
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Ciderhead on April 25, 2013, 10:12:15 PM
Quote from: Shanna on April 25, 2013, 09:48:21 PM
See http://nationalhomebrewclub.com/forum/index.php/topic,1156.msg14292.html#msg14292 for recipe details.

Shanna


Quote from: mcgrath on April 25, 2013, 09:43:54 PM
Quote from: Will_D on April 25, 2013, 08:06:35 PM
Quote from: mcgrath on April 25, 2013, 10:24:16 AM
I'm in Swords. I'll look into the group buys after work. Thanks for the links...
What all the time?? Do you live in Swords? Have you heard of the North County Brewers?
Or am I just having a senior momemt!!
I was at last meet Will. But you have your quota of people. I'm doing a batch for liffey too. I'll make up the numbers on this if needed. Any decision on yeast yet? Or did I miss that.


Yeah I see that all right and all of the ooh, er, maybe,  does my arse look big in this comments after it was posted.
I have pinged Rossa and will wait for him to confirm here before I order.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: mcgrath on April 25, 2013, 10:18:36 PM
Quote from: Will_D on April 25, 2013, 09:49:03 PM
Quote from: mcgrath on April 25, 2013, 09:43:54 PM
Quote from: Will_D on April 25, 2013, 08:06:35 PM
Quote from: mcgrath on April 25, 2013, 10:24:16 AM
I'm in Swords. I'll look into the group buys after work. Thanks for the links...
What all the time?? Do you live in Swords? Have you heard of the North County Brewers?
Or am I just having a senior momemt!!
I was at last meet Will. But you have your quota of people. I'm doing a batch for liffey too. I'll make up the numbers on this if needed. Any decision on yeast yet? Or did I miss that.
Sorry Kieran,

Yep Senior moment! I do find it difficult with various avatars/handles/names.

Happypollogies!!
No problem. I guess its time to get an avatar...
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Rossa on April 25, 2013, 10:56:43 PM
Just in the door. Do we not have enough? If needed I could do more but it means I will need to do 4 imperial batches.

This is the recipe I knocked up

South Dublin Brewers Barrel Project Imperial Porter
13-F Russian Imperial Stout
Author: rossa
Date: 16/04/2013

Size: 20.0 L @ 20 °C
Efficiency: 60%
Attenuation: 75.0%
Calories: 331.2 kcal per 12.0 fl oz

Original Gravity: 1.098 (1.075 - 1.115)
Terminal Gravity: 1.025 (1.018 - 1.030)
Color: 72.82 (59.1 - 78.8)
Alcohol: 9.81% (8.0% - 12.0%)
Bitterness: 146.1 (50.0 - 90.0)

Ingredients:
8.0 kg (71.1%) Pale Ale Malt - added during mash
1 kg (8.9%) Amber Malt - added during mash
1 kg (8.9%) Brown Malt - added during mash
.5 kg (4.4%) Crystal 55 - added during mash
.5 kg (4.4%) Chocolate Malt - added during mash
.250 kg (2.2%) Black Malt - added during mash
40 g (21.1%) Magnum (14.1%) - added during boil, boiled 90 m
150 g (78.9%) East Kent Goldings (7.2%) - added during boil, boiled 20 m
2.0 ea Fermentis US-05 Safale US-05

Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: beerfly on April 25, 2013, 11:59:49 PM
sorry i was ment to reply sooner but im probably in, was just trying to sort out the logistics of it.
we see if i can sort out transport tomorrow so will know for certain over the weekend.
assuming its all good it would be a corny full as thats the easiest for transport.

Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Ciderhead on April 26, 2013, 12:13:07 AM
1. Paddy Bubbles - 27 litres
2. Shiny - 40 litres
3. Shanna - 40 litres
4. Cider head - 20-25 litres   45L if required
5. Rossa - 20 litres
6. Barfly 20L
7. AndrewL 20L (Me being cheeky but you did say yes!)

If Jimmy jumps on board we are good to go

BTW if anybody else wants to go for it jump in as I am sure Shiny, Shanna or I would be more than happy to pare back.

And to think 5hrs ago this was nearly dead, ok specifically for this project for anybody that needs ingredients collected from HBC to save you the €5, I am down there on Tuesday AM, please place and pay for your order and mark it for my collection. 
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shanna on April 26, 2013, 07:26:45 AM
Beer fly where are you based?

Shanna
Quote from: beerfly on April 25, 2013, 11:59:49 PM
sorry i was ment to reply sooner but im probably in, was just trying to sort out the logistics of it.
we see if i can sort out transport tomorrow so will know for certain over the weekend.
assuming its all good it would be a corny full as thats the easiest for transport.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: beerfly on April 26, 2013, 09:17:32 AM
northside, next to croke park
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shanna on April 26, 2013, 09:53:34 AM
If we could arrange a mutually acceptable time for collection (preferably with Shiny who I have promised transport with) then I could come over and collect you. Would you also need a lift back or I would you be back able to slum it from the day station?

Shanna
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on April 26, 2013, 09:56:00 AM
Great news lads.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on April 26, 2013, 10:11:03 AM
Just realised... I decided at the start of 2013 that I was going to make more "session beers" this year.

My last three beers have been 8%, 7.5%, 7.5%. And now two batches of 10% porter. Jesus...  ???
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: mcgrath on April 26, 2013, 10:48:38 AM
1. Paddy Bubbles - 27 litres
2. Shiny - 40 litres
3. Shanna - 40 litres
4. Cider head - 20-25 litres   45L if required
5. Rossa - 20 litres
6. Barfly 20L
7. AndrewL 20L (Me being cheeky but you did say yes!)
8. McGrath 20L

Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on April 26, 2013, 11:04:47 AM
Well it looks like we're full. Happy days.

There still seems to be a little confusion on other threads about the capacity of these barrels. Ciderhead, you're still comfortable that we're shooting for 163 litres?

If so, shiny and Shanna might be able to revise their plans downwards? (and breathe a sigh of relief?  :))
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on April 26, 2013, 11:11:10 AM
Oh, forgot to mention. There were some other interested parties, so speak now if you still want to participate. I'm sure the 40 litre contributors will have no problem scaling back their contributions slightly to allow other brewers to be involved.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on April 26, 2013, 11:29:38 AM
Just messing about with the figures in spreadsheet here. If everyone rows back to 20 litres, we're nearly up on our target volume. I can do the extra 3 litres, as I'll have to do two brews anyway, unless anyone else wants to do it?


Paddy Bubbles 23
Shiny         20
Shanna         20
Ciderhead 20
Rossa         20
Barfly         20
Andrew         20
McGrath         20

TOTAL         163


I know it's been said already, but just bear in mind that with losses to hop soakage and trub (of which there will be plenty) we will each need to be targeting a volume greater than 20 litres in order to get 20 litres into the barrel.

Also, you could still brew a few extra litres to bottle separately as a "control". Might be nice to compare the barrel-aged porter against the original.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shane Phelan on April 26, 2013, 11:32:31 AM
How as the 200L capacity magically dropped back to 160?

Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on April 26, 2013, 12:03:24 PM
I thought 163 was the volume measured by Ciderhead last week....?

Has it officially been increased to 200?!?  ??? ;D
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shane Phelan on April 26, 2013, 12:19:25 PM
Quote from: Ciderhead on April 25, 2013, 06:50:58 PM
Quote from: Ciderhead on April 24, 2013, 04:58:46 PM
I sealed the bottom of a cut half barrel planter and filled with water
Measured using fermenting bucket
3x25 +15 litres,

THESE ARE 180 LITRE CASKS

Please factor this in for your groups

Sorry Will one last post here as its related to Vols above;

Just filled my other half barrel and its 1cm taller on the inside
4 x 25 Litres,


These are potentially 200L Barrels :o :o :o

That was what I was referring to, a good few posts back in the main Cask thread.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on April 26, 2013, 12:27:15 PM
I've just read that myself! So we're probably better off shooting for the 200 litre mark. If we've any left over I'm sure it won't go astray.

Some playing around with the figures needed so. I'm sorry to be taking liberties and changing people's contributions here, but we need to see how the big picture looks. If you want to amend your own figures up or down, just holler.


Bubbles         27
Shiny         34
Shanna         34
Ciderhead 25
Rossa         20
Barfly         20
Andrew         20
McGrath         20

TOTAL          200


Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: beerfly on April 26, 2013, 05:39:53 PM
Defiantly better to have too much in case Lady Luck decides to kick someone in the nuts and they lose a batch.  The extra can always be bottled passed around.

Shanna it's just getting the keg out to you. Coming back would not be a problem.  I'll probably know how I'm fixed tomorrow or next tog day anyway.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Ciderhead on April 26, 2013, 06:34:14 PM
Bubbles           27
Shiny           34
Shanna           34
Ciderhead   25                       I have ordered my ingredients, brewing 4/5 may
Rossa           20
Barfly           20
Andrew           20
McGrath           20

TOTAL            200

The barrel is between 180 and 200L and there will be top ups required, 10-15 L.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shanna on May 14, 2013, 09:11:56 PM
Hi there

Hope everybody is reading this. Suggested plan is to rack your beer to a secondary before delivery/collection to my place. Then leave all beers to sit for 4-7 days before meeting at my place to taste the beer and fill the barrel. How about delivery collection some time next week and meet the bank holiday weekend exact date and time to be vetoed by my wife :-)

Shanna
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on May 14, 2013, 10:01:33 PM
Sounds good. I'll probably rack to secondary fermenter at the weekend and I'll await instructions from Mrs Shanna.  :)

Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shanna on May 14, 2013, 10:11:48 PM
Edyta If you please  8)
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: mcgrath on May 15, 2013, 10:42:01 AM
Quote from: Shanna on May 14, 2013, 09:11:56 PM
Hi there

Hope everybody is reading this. Suggested plan is to rack your beer to a secondary before delivery/collection to my place. Then leave all beers to sit for 4-7 days before meeting at my place to taste the beer and fill the barrel. How about delivery collection some time next week and meet the bank holiday weekend exact date and time to be vetoed by my wife :-)

Shanna
Where do you live actually? never asked before.. Cheers
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: beerfly on May 15, 2013, 02:42:19 PM
that was my general delivery plan anyway  ;D
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shanna on May 15, 2013, 07:52:30 PM
Blackrock South County Dublin

Shanna

Quote from: beerfly on May 15, 2013, 02:42:19 PM
that was my general delivery plan anyway  ;D
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: mcgrath on May 15, 2013, 11:25:59 PM
Quote from: Shanna on May 15, 2013, 07:52:30 PM
Blackrock South County Dublin

Shanna

Sound. I racked to secondary this eve. Gravity was 22.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shanna on May 26, 2013, 09:55:11 AM
Hi McGrath

Where you going to be coming from yourself? Any word on when you can deliver your batch?

Shanna
Quote from: mcgrath on May 15, 2013, 11:25:59 PM
Quote from: Shanna on May 15, 2013, 07:52:30 PM
Blackrock South County Dublin

Shanna

Sound. I racked to secondary this eve. Gravity was 22.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Ciderhead on May 26, 2013, 10:02:24 AM
racking to secondary this ave and if I allowed out will see u after 8.30
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shanna on May 26, 2013, 06:54:05 PM
No hassle of you don't make it tonight then some other night.

Shanna

Quote from: Ciderhead on May 26, 2013, 10:02:24 AM
racking to secondary this ave and if I allowed out will see u after 8.30
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Ciderhead on May 26, 2013, 07:16:35 PM
see you at 8.30
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on March 22, 2014, 05:46:57 PM
Well lads, after all that, 2nd place in the barrel comp. Oh ye of little faith, eh??  ;)

Big thanks to CH for organising the competition entry for us.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shanna on March 22, 2014, 05:52:00 PM
Who won it? Also first looser is no good to me  :-X

Shanna
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: mcgrath on March 22, 2014, 05:57:11 PM
Do we all get a medal?? :-P
Didn't know we'd entered. Fair play CH...
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shanna on March 22, 2014, 06:36:21 PM
link to barrel competition results

http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.com/forum/index.php/topic,5774.msg77914.html#msg77914

Shanna
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on November 26, 2014, 09:45:25 AM
Shamefully, I finally got around to bottling this at the weekend. The SMELL from the keg when I opened it was absolutely amazing. Hopefully it will be fully bottle-conditioned and ready to drink by Xmas.

I don't remember seeing much discussion on forum about how everyone packaged theirs - I know Rossa and Shanna kegged theirs, the mad sods. So how is it tasting after all this time??
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: molc on November 26, 2014, 09:47:45 AM
Slight side topic; when are you guys doing the next barrel project? Would love to get in on that action :)
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on November 26, 2014, 09:56:10 AM
Too late, I'm afraid. Barrel is being retired after this one.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: molc on November 26, 2014, 10:29:37 AM
Should have taken the hobby up a year or two earlier I guess. No worries.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on November 26, 2014, 10:37:42 AM
Not at all! Plenty of barrels still in service in the Dublin area. Although I think a lot of the barrels are currently being used for sour beers. I'm not sure if that's your bag. Have a look around the various club forums, all the details should be there.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shanna on November 26, 2014, 12:53:58 PM
Quote from: Bubbles on November 26, 2014, 09:56:10 AM
Too late, I'm afraid. Barrel is being retired after this one.
Never say never :)

Would there be any interest do you reckon in doing a sour?

Shanna
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on November 26, 2014, 02:37:21 PM
Well, I'm interested! :)

Not too interested in doing a "regular" beer once again. I didn't think that there was enough oak character in our first barrel-aged beer, and we can expect even less in the barleywine. So you have to ask yourself what the benefit is in just holding the beer in a barrel for a year. However, a sour barrel would be too good an opportunity to pass by. Assuming your're willing to continue to host the barrel, of course..

I'll be honest - the prospect of handling sour beers is a little bit nerve-wracking. I've had over 4 lucky years, successfully keeping the bugs out of my brewery. You would want to be very comfortable with hosting a sour in your garage.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Rossa on November 26, 2014, 03:15:49 PM
Quote from: Bubbles on November 26, 2014, 02:37:21 PM
Well, I'm interested! :)

Not too interested in doing a "regular" beer once again. I didn't think that there was enough oak character in our first barrel-aged beer, and we can expect even less in the barleywine. So you have to ask yourself what the benefit is in just holding the beer in a barrel for a year. However, a sour barrel would be too good an opportunity to pass by. Assuming your're willing to continue to host the barrel, of course..

I'll be honest - the prospect of handling sour beers is a little bit nerve-wracking. I've had over 4 lucky years, successfully keeping the bugs out of my brewery. You would want to be very comfortable with hosting a sour in your garage.


Don't be worried! Embrace the funk  I'll brew whatever as long as it's next year.  Apart from a separate syphon and fv you don't have much to worry about.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: molc on November 26, 2014, 03:23:48 PM
I'm assuming you don't want to keep it in a keg or use beer lines with it either as it would infect everything?

Anyway, barrel project for me is the opportunity to try something different, so would love to contribute.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: cno1 on November 26, 2014, 04:00:33 PM
Ye I would love to give a sour a go too, if it were to go ahead.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: John_C on November 26, 2014, 04:39:49 PM
Have we just nominated Shanna's shed to become our sour brewhouse?
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on November 26, 2014, 05:05:05 PM
I have visions of us buying assorted sour beers in the DH and collecting the dregs in a growler for subsequent pitching into the barrel.  Not as mad as it sounds, especially if you're a reader of Michael Tonsmeire's blog.

This could get interesting...  >:D
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: mcgrath on November 26, 2014, 06:53:30 PM
Quote from: Bubbles on November 26, 2014, 05:05:05 PM
I have visions of us buying assorted sour beers in the DH and collecting the dregs in a growler for subsequent pitching into the barrel.  Not as mad as it sounds, especially if you're a reader of Michael Tonsmeire's blog.

This could get interesting...  >:D
Haha! I was about to suggest collecting dregs too.. I'm growing up cantillon dregs at the mo. Plan is to make goudenband my Xmas drink and collect dregs from all the bottles.
I'm in for a sour definitely..
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on November 26, 2014, 07:45:49 PM
Nice one ciaran. Are you actually making a starter from the dregs? Is that just a regular DME wort?
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shanna on November 26, 2014, 08:48:19 PM
Quote from: John_C on November 26, 2014, 04:39:49 PM
Have we just nominated Shanna's shed to become our sour brewhouse?
Source storehouse maybe for the barrel but yeez can brew somewhere else :) Was going to Chuck all those old hops out but might hang on to them now.

Shanna
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shanna on November 26, 2014, 11:25:12 PM
Quote from: Bubbles on November 26, 2014, 05:05:05 PM
I have visions of us buying assorted sour beers in the DH and collecting the dregs in a growler for subsequent pitching into the barrel.  Not as mad as it sounds, especially if you're a reader of Michael Tonsmeire's blog.

This could get interesting...  >:D
Speaking of interesting, lets continue this conversation at the next South Dublin meet in the Dark Horse.

Shanna
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: mcgrath on November 27, 2014, 07:53:30 AM
Quote from: Bubbles on November 26, 2014, 07:45:49 PM
Nice one ciaran. Are you actually making a starter from the dregs? Is that just a regular DME wort?
That's the plan. It's just a week in. I used liquid malt extract from the health shop. I'll check it later and see how it's getting on.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: mcgrath on December 21, 2014, 10:09:39 PM
Quote from: mcgrath on November 27, 2014, 07:53:30 AM
Quote from: Bubbles on November 26, 2014, 07:45:49 PM
Nice one ciaran. Are you actually making a starter from the dregs? Is that just a regular DME wort?
That's the plan. It's just a week in. I used liquid malt extract from the health shop. I'll check it later and see how it's getting on.
Just to show the cantillon dregs growing.. Not everyones cup of tea..:)
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: mcgrath on December 21, 2014, 10:18:46 PM
Not growing up the goudenband as I have found out it is pasteurised so no bugs no nourish.. Have to find something else I like that has live bugs.
Boon Oude Geuze Mariage Parfait has harvestable bugs apparently, but a bit more expensive.
At the moment I hope to make an Oud Buin. I'll hopefully make a batch using wlp bought sour mix. I plan to make an extra few litres and use the cantillon dregs shown above as an experiment.
On a side note, I brought the barrel stout to the recent Liffey meet. It was very well received, have to say I'm really happy with it. Just recently force carbed it and tried it for the first time myself.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: mr hoppy on December 21, 2014, 10:40:56 PM
Wow, how long did it take to get that pelicille. Can't be good for your stir bar!
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: mcgrath on December 21, 2014, 10:46:50 PM
Quote from: mr hoppy on December 21, 2014, 10:40:56 PM
Wow, how long did it take to get that pelicille. Can't be good for your stir bar!

Its probably a month old. I developed a pellicle the first week, but I poured a drop out to taste it and the pellicle dropped into it. Its only come back this week. I moved it to a warmer spot which really increased activity.
Not using a stir plate. I actually meant to look up if a stirplate helps grow up souring strains, but if the pellicle protects the beer, I assumed not. I'll research more.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on December 21, 2014, 10:46:58 PM
Mmmmm... hairy...
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: mcgrath on December 21, 2014, 11:42:08 PM
Quote from: Dube on December 21, 2014, 11:18:51 PM
Quote from: mcgrath on December 21, 2014, 10:09:39 PM
Just to show the cantillon dregs growing.. Not everyones cup of tea..:)

That looks like there's a wasp in it?  ???

Just a bubble.. Cross sectional view.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on January 23, 2015, 09:27:47 PM
Had a bottle of the barrel porter this evening and it tastes fantastic! I reseeded with yeast and left it to bottle condition before xmas, but I obviously didn't leave it long enough as the first couple of bottles I opened were flat as a pancake. Had to take the crates back into the house for a few weeks to let them carbonate properly.

It's such an intense beer - massive coffee aroma with notes of oak and whiskey. Flavour is all chocolate, espresso, caramel and burnt toast. The oak really comes through too. Can't believe this turned out so well.

Big words I know, but I don't think there's a commercial barrel aged stout out there that could hold a candle to this.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Rossa on January 24, 2015, 12:30:29 AM
Quote from: Bubbles on January 23, 2015, 09:27:47 PM
Had a bottle of the barrel porter this evening and it tastes fantastic! I reseeded with yeast and left it to bottle condition before xmas, but I obviously didn't leave it long enough as the first couple of bottles I opened were flat as a pancake. Had to take the crates back into the house for a few weeks to let them carbonate properly.

It's such an intense beer - massive coffee aroma with notes of oak and whiskey. Flavour is all chocolate, espresso, caramel and burnt toast. The oak really comes through too. Can't believe this turned out so well.

Big words I know, but I don't think there's a commercial barrel aged stout out there that could hold a candle to this.
You are not imagining it. The beer is incredible. A buddy of mine works for flying dog and couldn't believe homebrewers got together to make a barrel beer like that. Really is something special.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on January 24, 2015, 07:15:27 AM

Quote from: Rossa on January 24, 2015, 12:30:29 AM
Quote from: Bubbles on January 23, 2015, 09:27:47 PM
Had a bottle of the barrel porter this evening and it tastes fantastic! I reseeded with yeast and left it to bottle condition before xmas, but I obviously didn't leave it long enough as the first couple of bottles I opened were flat as a pancake. Had to take the crates back into the house for a few weeks to let them carbonate properly.

It's such an intense beer - massive coffee aroma with notes of oak and whiskey. Flavour is all chocolate, espresso, caramel and burnt toast. The oak really comes through too. Can't believe this turned out so well.

Big words I know, but I don't think there's a commercial barrel aged stout out there that could hold a candle to this.
You are not imagining it. The beer is incredible. A buddy of mine works for flying dog and couldn't believe homebrewers got together to make a barrel beer like that. Really is something special.

Hah, brilliant! That's just made my day!
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shanna on January 24, 2015, 07:35:40 AM
Quote from: Bubbles on January 24, 2015, 07:15:27 AM

Quote from: Rossa on January 24, 2015, 12:30:29 AM
Quote from: Bubbles on January 23, 2015, 09:27:47 PM
Had a bottle of the barrel porter this evening and it tastes fantastic! I reseeded with yeast and left it to bottle condition before xmas, but I obviously didn't leave it long enough as the first couple of bottles I opened were flat as a pancake. Had to take the crates back into the house for a few weeks to let them carbonate properly.

It's such an intense beer - massive coffee aroma with notes of oak and whiskey. Flavour is all chocolate, espresso, caramel and burnt toast. The oak really comes through too. Can't believe this turned out so well.

Big words I know, but I don't think there's a commercial barrel aged stout out there that could hold a candle to this.
You are not imagining it. The beer is incredible. A buddy of mine works for flying dog and couldn't believe homebrewers got together to make a barrel beer like that. Really is something special.

Hah, brilliant! That's just made my day!
Connor what yeast did you use & how much was required to get it carbonated?

Shanna
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on January 24, 2015, 07:48:17 AM
Unfortunately I don't have a scales that has the required precision, but I used 1-2g grams of us-05, rehydrated first.

I'm hoping the rest of the bottles in the batch are carbonated too - if the rehydrated yeast didn't mix through the beer thoroughly, they'll be flat too.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on February 08, 2015, 04:35:27 PM
2 bottles of imperial porter for the competition dropped into the DH this afternoon lads.
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: molc on February 08, 2015, 06:54:01 PM
Lucky judges. That stuff is Yom!
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: mcgrath on February 08, 2015, 06:54:54 PM
Fair play!
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Bubbles on February 08, 2015, 08:41:02 PM
Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: The Barrel Project - The Contributors
Post by: Shanna on February 09, 2015, 03:44:17 PM
Quote from: Bubbles on February 08, 2015, 08:41:02 PM
Fingers crossed!
Here is hoping for at 2nd again :)