Speaking for myself here I need and I don't even know if there is going to be any dry hopping at this stage.
300g EKG - Capital Brewers Barrel
200g EKG - South Dublin Brewers Barrel
I'm thinking if we order a 5kg bale of EKG leaf hops between Capital brewers and SD brewers we would have enough for both barrels. It costs ~€70 for 5kg delivered.
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There was somebody talking about getting a bale of another type of hop but I cant remember who said that to me so if you think there is demand then add it in. Dr. Jacoby pointed out that the delivery is the same for up to 3 bales but I don't know if people want that much at this stage...
Bale 1 - 5kg East Kent Goldings (~ €14/kg including delivery)
1. Shiny - 1kg
That was me! I'm typing this on a phone so I won't put in my full order till I get home this evening, but I'm looking to get 3Kg of EKG (pellets would work best but leaf is ok if that is easier) and 3.5Kg of Saaz (pellets if possible). That's not all for me by the way! Kev and Richie are on board too. Ill just use my name to keep things simple.
Bale 1 - 5kg East Kent Goldings (~ €14/kg including delivery)
1. Shiny - 1kg
2. Dr Jacoby - 3Kg (pellets preferred)
Bale 2 - 5Kg Saaz (roughly ~€12.50/Kg not including delivery - most of this is covered by Bale 1)
1. Dr Jacoby - 3.5Kg (pellets preferred)
Lads, maybe we should open this up to other clubs to make sure we get all the hops we need for the best price possible? I'm sure EKG will be a popular choice for imperial stout recipes. There might be demand for another 5Kg bale to bring us up to 3 bales overall, which is the sweet spot for delivery costs. Hopefully there will be enough people to take the final 1.5Kg of Saaz. What do you reckon?
I also am in need of hops . A kg of ekg would be good. There must be more out there in need ....
Jesus if everyone wants pellets then I'm going to have to make the extra effort to make that hop strainer I have been threatening to make for ages. ;)
Quote from: shiny on April 23, 2013, 11:36:39 PM
I don't have anything against pellets but they will block my boiler instantly. If you can show me a way for them not to block my boiler then I will go for pellets too.
Muslin bag??
Quote from: Will_D on April 23, 2013, 11:41:20 PM
Quote from: shiny on April 23, 2013, 11:36:39 PM
I don't have anything against pellets but they will block my boiler instantly. If you can show me a way for them not to block my boiler then I will go for pellets too.
Muslin bag??
Utilisation? I thought if your hops, whether they be pellet or leaf, were stuffed into a muslin bag then your utilisation would be greatly reduced?
Bale 1 - 5kg East Kent Goldings (~ €14/kg including delivery)
1. Shiny - 1kg
2. Dr Jacoby - 3Kg (pellets preferred)
3. Rossa - 1kg
Bale 2 - 5Kg Saaz (roughly ~€12.50/Kg not including delivery - most of this is covered by Bale 1)
1. Dr Jacoby - 3.5Kg (pellets preferred)
Bale 1 - 5kg East Kent Goldings (~ €14/kg including delivery)
1. Shiny - 1kg
2. Dr Jacoby - 3Kg (pellets preferred)
3. Rossa - 1kg
Bale 2 - 5Kg Saaz (roughly ~€12.50/Kg not including delivery - most of this is covered by Bale 1)
1. Dr Jacoby - 3.5Kg (pellets preferred)
Bale 3 -5kg East Kent Goldings as bale 1
1. Ciderhead 1kg
Bale 1 - 5kg East Kent Goldings (~ €14/kg including delivery)
1. Shiny - 1kg
2. Dr Jacoby - 3Kg (pellets preferred)
3. Rossa - 1kg
Bale 2 - 5Kg Saaz (roughly ~€12.50/Kg not including delivery - most of this is covered by Bale 1)
1. Dr Jacoby - 3.5Kg (pellets preferred)
2. Shiny - 0.5kg (pellets ok)
Bale 3 -5kg East Kent Goldings as bale 1
1. Ciderhead 1kg
Bale 1 - 5kg East Kent Goldings (~ €14/kg including delivery)
1. Shiny - 1kg
2. Dr Jacoby - 3Kg (pellets preferred)
3. Rossa - 1kg
Bale 2 - 5Kg Saaz (roughly ~€12.50/Kg not including delivery - most of this is covered by Bale 1)
1. Dr Jacoby - 3.5Kg (pellets preferred)
2. Shiny - 0.5kg (pellets ok)
Bale 3 -5kg East Kent Goldings as bale 1
1. Ciderhead 1kg
2. Cathal O D 0.5kg (whole hops)
Magnum?? Anyone??
1. Cathal O D 0.5kg
Quote from: shiny on April 23, 2013, 11:42:11 PMI thought if your hops, whether they be pellet or leaf, were stuffed into a muslin bag then your utilisation would be greatly reduced?
It all depends on the way the muslin bag is used and the amount of hops in it. If you can stretch the bag to give the hops space to move around that would help (one way to do this would be to use a giant tea ball around which you wrap the muslin bag. Another option is to use a large muslin or nylon bag suspended from a frame that keeps the bag stretched open). And if you make sure to limit the amount of hops in each bag you are less likely to get big lumps where the core remains dry. In my experience 30g is an ideal amount but you can get away with more.
Actually one of our members has some EKG so if Cathal can get some off Tube, no requirement for a third bale.
Bale 1 - 5kg East Kent Goldings (~ €14/kg including delivery)
1. Shiny - 1kg
2. Dr Jacoby - 3Kg (pellets preferred)
3. Rossa - 1kg
Bale 2 - 5Kg Saaz (roughly ~€12.50/Kg not including delivery - most of this is covered by Bale 1)
1. Dr Jacoby - 3.5Kg (pellets preferred)
2. Shiny - 0.5kg (pellets ok)
3. Tube - 1Kg (pellets please)
Bale 3 -5kg East Kent Goldings as bale 1
1. Ciderhead 1kg
2. Cathal O D 0.5kg (whole hops)
I had originally only planned on getting 1 bale, I didn't anticipate the other 2 so I would have already put the order though by now.
I know at least one other person that wants hops from the 3rd bale and I posted on the SD forum so see if Declan wanted some. If the 3rd bale fills up I can order them straight away. I'm not going to go beyond 3 bales as the delivery doubles after that.
I think Im the other person Shiny knows wants them but just a half kilo.
Bale 1 - 5kg East Kent Goldings PELLETS (~ €14/kg including delivery)
1. Shiny - 1kg
2. Dr Jacoby - 3Kg
3. Rossa - 1kg
Bale 2 - 5Kg Saaz PELLETS (roughly ~€12.50/Kg not including delivery - most of this is covered by Bale 1)
1. Dr Jacoby - 3.5Kg
2. Shiny - 0.5kg
3. Tube - 1.0Kg
Bale 3 -5kg East Kent Goldings WHOLE HOPS
1. Ciderhead 1.0kg
2. Cathal O D 0.5kg
3. JoeyD 0.5Kg
I might just order the 3 bales as is and distribute them at the capital brewers meet...
Yeah I will do that. Will put the order though tonight.
Quote from: JoeyD on April 24, 2013, 03:49:28 PM
I think Im the other person Shiny knows wants them but just a half kilo.
Bale 1 - 5kg East Kent Goldings PELLETS (~ €14/kg including delivery)
1. Shiny - 1kg
2. Dr Jacoby - 3Kg
3. Rossa - 1kg
Bale 2 - 5Kg Saaz PELLETS (roughly ~€12.50/Kg not including delivery - most of this is covered by Bale 1)
1. Dr Jacoby - 3.5Kg
2. Shiny - 0.5kg
3. Tube - 1.0Kg
Bale 3 -5kg East Kent Goldings WHOLE HOPS
1. Ciderhead 1.0kg
2. Cathal O D 0.5kg
3. JoeyD 0.5Kg
JoeyD missed on cut and paste Post # 14 Ciderhead is out
Hmm, I didn't notice that either as it was a post edit.
I don't want to be left with 4kg of hops so as it stands I will probably not order the 3rd bale. Joey and Cathal might be able to merge with Bale 1 if needs be. I can get by with less than 1kg so I don't mind sharing.
Guilty as I had one of my smart arse comments and thought better of it
Hence the reason I flagged an hour later.
Bale 1 - 5kg East Kent Goldings PELLETS (~ €14/kg including delivery)
1. Shiny - 1kg
2. Dr Jacoby - 3Kg
3. Rossa - 1kg
Bale 2 - 5Kg Saaz PELLETS (roughly ~€12.50/Kg not including delivery - most of this is covered by Bale 1)
1. Dr Jacoby - 3.5Kg
2. Shiny - 0.5kg
3. Tube - 1.0Kg
Bale 3 -5kg East Kent Goldings WHOLE HOPS
1. Ciderhead 1.0kg
2. Cathal O D 0.5kg
3. JoeyD 0.5Kg
4. Padraic & Cara 1.5Kg (Maybe more, need to chat to him about it!)
I say order the three bales and I'll take the extra 2.5Kg if no one else does before they arrive!
Order is submitted. I have split the delivery across the three batches and rounded the numbers up a bit to make the calculations handier. If I get them before next tuesday I will distribute at the capital brewers meet, if later in the week I will bring 'em to the red polo shirt party. ;)
Bale 1 - 5kg East Kent Goldings PELLETS (Final price €12/kg including delivery)
1. Shiny - 1kg - €12
2. Dr Jacoby - 3Kg - €36
3. Rossa - 1kg - €12
Bale 2 - 5Kg Saaz PELLETS (Final price €13/kg including delivery)
1. Dr Jacoby - 3.5Kg - €45.50
2. Shiny - 0.5kg - €6.50
3. Tube - 1.0Kg - €13
Bale 3 -5kg East Kent Goldings WHOLE HOPS (Final price €12/kg including delivery)
1. Cathal O D 0.5kg - €6
2. JoeyD 0.5Kg - €6
3. Padraic & Cara 1.5Kg - €18
4. 2.5kg remaining on this bale
Cheers for that Shane. Did you pay up front of through the club?
Just paid for them myself. You can just give me the cash when you see me.
Thanks for all the work Shane!
Quote from: shiny on April 24, 2013, 06:56:46 PM
Order is submitted. I have split the delivery across the three batches and rounded the numbers up a bit to make the calculations handier. If I get them before next tuesday I will distribute at the capital brewers meet, if later in the week I will bring 'em to the red polo shirt party. ;)
Bale 1 - 5kg East Kent Goldings PELLETS (Final price €12/kg including delivery)
1. Shiny - 1kg - €12
2. Dr Jacoby - 3Kg - €36
3. Rossa - 1kg - €12
Bale 2 - 5Kg Saaz PELLETS (Final price €13/kg including delivery)
1. Dr Jacoby - 3.5Kg - €45.50
2. Shiny - 0.5kg - €6.50
3. Tube - 1.0Kg - €13
Bale 3 -5kg East Kent Goldings WHOLE HOPS (Final price €12/kg including delivery)
1. Cathal O D 0.5kg - €6
2. JoeyD 0.5Kg - €6
3. Padraic & Cara 1.5Kg - €18
4. Shanna 0.5Kg - €6
4. 2kg remaining on this bale
Quote from: Shanna on April 24, 2013, 10:24:48 PM
Quote from: shiny on April 24, 2013, 06:56:46 PM
Order is submitted. I have split the delivery across the three batches and rounded the numbers up a bit to make the calculations handier. If I get them before next tuesday I will distribute at the capital brewers meet, if later in the week I will bring 'em to the red polo shirt party. ;)
Bale 1 - 5kg East Kent Goldings PELLETS (Final price €12/kg including delivery)
1. Shiny - 1kg - €12
2. Dr Jacoby - 3Kg - €36
3. Rossa - 1kg - €12
Bale 2 - 5Kg Saaz PELLETS (Final price €13/kg including delivery)
1. Dr Jacoby - 3.5Kg - €45.50
2. Shiny - 0.5kg - €6.50
3. Tube - 1.0Kg - €13
Bale 3 -5kg East Kent Goldings WHOLE HOPS (Final price €12/kg including delivery)
1. Cathal O D 0.5kg - €6
2. JoeyD 0.5Kg - €6
3. Padraic & Cara 1.5Kg - €18
4. Shanna 0.5Kg - €6
4. 2kg remaining on this bale
I will take 1kg if thats ok.
Quote from: Cathal O D on April 24, 2013, 10:48:02 PM
Quote from: Shanna on April 24, 2013, 10:24:48 PM
Quote from: shiny on April 24, 2013, 06:56:46 PM
Order is submitted. I have split the delivery across the three batches and rounded the numbers up a bit to make the calculations handier. If I get them before next tuesday I will distribute at the capital brewers meet, if later in the week I will bring 'em to the red polo shirt party. ;)
Bale 1 - 5kg East Kent Goldings PELLETS (Final price €12/kg including delivery)
1. Shiny - 1kg - €12
2. Dr Jacoby - 3Kg - €36
3. Rossa - 1kg - €12
Bale 2 - 5Kg Saaz PELLETS (Final price €13/kg including delivery)
1. Dr Jacoby - 3.5Kg - €45.50
2. Shiny - 0.5kg - €6.50
3. Tube - 1.0Kg - €13
Bale 3 -5kg East Kent Goldings WHOLE HOPS (Final price €12/kg including delivery)
1. Cathal O D 1kg - €12
2. JoeyD 0.5Kg - €6
3. Padraic & Cara 1.5Kg - €18
4. Shanna 0.5Kg - €6
5. Ciderhead 1.5kg - €18
I will take 1kg if thats ok.
If you build it :)
Guilt Ridden I will take the last 1.5Kgs thats it closed Folks
I can take Bale 3 and vac pack into 250's for those that are in bale 3 make sure your CASH gets to Shiny as I am
not offering a COD service and won't collect for packing/distribution until he has all Bale 3 money.
Sweet.
I think I'm under weight on the ekg's id anyone doesn't need any of their own let me know!
Have to do me calc's at the weekend to be sure!
Yeah, only just had time to sort through my supplies and it looks like I'm gonna need some too.
Bale 1 - 5kg East Kent Goldings PELLETS (Final price €12/kg including delivery)
1. Shiny - 1kg - €12
2. Dr Jacoby - 3Kg - €36
3. Rossa - 1kg - €12
Bale 2 - 5Kg Saaz PELLETS (Final price €13/kg including delivery)
1. Dr Jacoby - 3.5Kg - €45.50
2. Shiny - 0.5kg - €6.50
3. Tube - 1.0Kg - €13
Bale 3 -5kg East Kent Goldings WHOLE HOPS (Final price €12/kg including delivery)
1. Cathal O D 1kg - €12
2. JoeyD 0.5Kg - €6
3. Padraic & Cara 1.5Kg - €18
4. Shanna 0.5Kg - €6
5. Ciderhead 1.5kg - €18
QuoteI can take Bale 3 and vac pack into 250's for those that are in bale 3 make sure your CASH gets to Shiny as I am not offering a COD service and won't collect for packing/distribution until he has all Bale 3 money.
Thanks for that Ciderhead, that would definitely make things a lot easier on this end. I definitely don't need all of the EKG that I have straight away so I can probably spare 400g or so. I can do anther buy in 6 months time if we decide to dry hop the barrels.
@ P and IG, how much do you love me :-*
Quote from: Ciderhead on April 25, 2013, 04:19:30 PM
@ P and IG, how much do you love me :-*
I love you more than he does but not sure if you'll give up enough for me :-*
Seeing IG tomorrow, but PM me what you need
Hops arrived. Ciderhead picked up the leaf hops this morning and is bagging them tonight with the aim of dropping a few of them out to people on Thursday. Ye would have got his PM about it anyway.
The rest of the hops are going to be bagged tomorrow evening.
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Bale 1 - 5kg East Kent Goldings PELLETS (Final price €12/kg including delivery)
1. Shiny - 1kg - €12 PAID
2. Dr Jacoby - 3Kg - €36
3. Rossa - 1kg - €12
Bale 2 - 5Kg Saaz PELLETS (Final price €13/kg including delivery)
1. Dr Jacoby - 3.5Kg - €45.50
2. Shiny - 0.5kg - €6.50 PAID
3. Tube - 1.0Kg - €13
Bale 3 -5kg East Kent Goldings WHOLE HOPS (Final price €12/kg including delivery)
1. Cathal O D 1kg - €12 PAID
2. JoeyD 0.5Kg - €6
3. Padraic & Cara 1.5Kg - €18
4. Shanna 0.5Kg - €6
5. Ciderhead 1.5kg - €18 PAID
Don't forget I paid you for our share of the hops last night as well!!
No pm from ciderhead so I'll chase him up!
Thank you both for organising and delivering this!
oh yeah, for anyone with software.
EKG Leaf AA values: 6.8%
EKG Pellet AA values: 6.92%
Saaz Pellet AA values: 3.2%
Bale 3 vac packed in bundles and will be distributed tomorrow make sure you have paid ;)
Hi Ciderhead & Shiny
Am paying Shiny next week at South Dublin meet can I still get my hops before the weekend?
Shanna
Quote from: Ciderhead on May 01, 2013, 09:20:00 PM
Bale 3 vac packed in bundles and will be distributed tomorrow make sure you have paid ;)
you will have them tomorrow night ;)
Ciderhead your car will have made so many trips to my gaff it will soon be alter to it by itself
Thanks
Shanna
Quote from: Dr Jacoby on April 24, 2013, 09:58:10 AM
Quote from: shiny on April 23, 2013, 11:42:11 PMI thought if your hops, whether they be pellet or leaf, were stuffed into a muslin bag then your utilisation would be greatly reduced?
It all depends on the way the muslin bag is used and the amount of hops in it. If you can stretch the bag to give the hops space to move around that would help (one way to do this would be to use a giant tea ball around which you wrap the muslin bag. Another option is to use a large muslin or nylon bag suspended from a frame that keeps the bag stretched open). And if you make sure to limit the amount of hops in each bag you are less likely to get big lumps where the core remains dry. In my experience 30g is an ideal amount but you can get away with more.
I'd be curious to know if anyone has any evidence that the bags negatively affect utilisation rates. Does anyone know how large isomerised hop acid molecules are? I don't know, but I imagine they'd be pretty small e.g. way smaller than a micron, so presumably they'd just slip right through the gaps in the muslin. As long as the hops get wet in the bag, the hop acids should be able to escape, surely?
Was never a fan of Y fronts not good for the circulation ;)
plenty of opportunity to move around.
Been reading a lot about late additions recently v's dry hopping.