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General Discussions => Chit Chat => Topic started by: Greg2013 on April 26, 2013, 04:49:14 PM

Title: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: Greg2013 on April 26, 2013, 04:49:14 PM
How do you remove your own posts in this new setup here? I don't see any option in the posts themselves to allow the person whose name is down as opening the thread to delete it if he so wishes ???
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: delzep on April 26, 2013, 05:03:32 PM
Just edit the post and delete the text
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: Greg2013 on April 26, 2013, 05:22:19 PM
Yes and what if there is a few pages of replies, what then? :)
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: delzep on April 26, 2013, 05:29:49 PM
suppose you'd have to contact a mod if you want a thread deleted. deleting posts is done as I said earlier
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: Greg2013 on April 26, 2013, 08:26:47 PM
Ok but my question is why do we need to contact a mod at all? If the posts are ours should we not have the ability to delete them as we see fit without having to ask someone else?
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: Greg2013 on April 26, 2013, 08:40:30 PM
Sorry meant Threads/Topics not replies to same.
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: Greg2013 on April 26, 2013, 11:19:57 PM
If its my thread why the hell not ? Not getting at you tube butthat makes no sense to me. If i start an article/thread and 50 people reply its still my thread and i should be able to delete it at any given stage. This happened in the last site as well and its bloody irritating tbh.
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: delzep on April 26, 2013, 11:29:06 PM
Its MY thread right

(http://i.imgur.com/qMSNdnQ.gif)
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: Greg2013 on April 27, 2013, 12:01:51 AM
Well played delzep.
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: LordEoin on April 27, 2013, 03:52:17 AM
Quote from: deadman1972 on April 26, 2013, 11:19:57 PM
If its my thread why the hell not ? Not getting at you tube butthat makes no sense to me. If i start an article/thread and 50 people reply its still my thread and i should be able to delete it at any given stage. This happened in the last site as well and its bloody irritating tbh.
It's not your thread. The original post was yours but the thread is commonwealth.
Everybody on the thread should be able to remove their own posts if they choose, but it wouldn't be fair to people who took time and effort to reply if you could just delete all THEIR answers.
It would lead to people not bothering to reply in detail.

Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: DEMPSEY on April 27, 2013, 11:46:13 AM
I alway's see threads as the written down opening bit of banter that we here in Ireland are good at. We all from time to time open up a conversation with a bit of shite talk (with the exception of myself :)) that we later may feel we should'nt have said,but hey,I prefer to know someone who does this from time to time then to have to talk to someone as prefect as me :-*.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn1Qolv4ntQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn1Qolv4ntQ)
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: delzep on April 27, 2013, 11:47:45 AM
Quote from: DEMPSEY on April 27, 2013, 11:46:13 AM
I alway's see threads as the written down opening bit of banter that we here in Ireland are good at. We all from time to time open up a conversation with a bit of shite talk (with the exception of myself :)) that we later may feel we should'nt have said,but hey,I prefer to know someone who does this from time to time then to have to talk to someone as prefect as me :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn1Qolv4ntQ (ftp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn1Qolv4ntQ)

er...what? :D
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: Ciderhead on April 27, 2013, 01:09:35 PM
Dempsey you have lost your american accent and I can see your camel toe in those trousers ;)
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: Greg2013 on April 28, 2013, 12:58:13 PM
I am sorry Lord eoin but i dont agree and while i have not read the forum rules recently i am pretty sure thats not in there(open to correction). If i start it then i have the right to finish it at any time of my choosing,If the thread is not mine then why the hell would i ever bother posting knowing i am giving up total control of something i started?

If a persons intellectual property is not their own then have we suddenly become North Korea or something? If 50 people send in replies then any semi intelligent person surely would recognise that the originator of the thread can do as he or she wishes with the thread that THEY started. If they decide to delete it then i'm sorry but thats tough titty on the rest and is irrevelant really IMHO.

What started all this has still not been acknowledged by the person that did it. Thats the reason for this thread/post. While threads are and should always be for the benefit of all, the fact remains they ARE and always should be the property of the originator. If it were a legal situation the originator would be the responsible party first and foremost and would be seen by law as the rightful owner, why is this any different?

Touch of "i am the law and you must obey" creeping in here lads IMHO.
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: johnrm on April 28, 2013, 02:01:13 PM
Scenario: I stand in Front of Leinster house and start shouting 'They are all gobshites' repeatedly. (We know this is true, but thats another story!)
The media come along and I'm on RTE news, TV, Headlines in the Papers etc.
I become known as the person who claimed that 'They are all gobshites'.

Can I chase the media and get them not to say that I said what I said? I can try.
But once its out there, its out there.

Forums are no different in this respect from the Media in general.
If you have posted something defamatory and it has had time to bed in, just post an apology.
If what you posted is in Error, post a correction in the OP, Note the change by way of [EDIT:...] or similar, then post again saying that you have corrected the OP.

We are all adults here, and sometimes stuff gets posted in haste, or after a few pints (Remember, we like making and drinking Beer!), but because we are all intelligent adults and life is short, we kiss, make up, and get back to brewing beer and shiteing on again.

What if someone copied what you said and posted this on another forum? Should the Mods on here try and clean that up too?

There have been 105 reads of this thread and 17+ replys including your own. These stats suggest that people are interested in the subject and care enough to help provide a comprehensive answer.

Is there something you need removed?
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: Padraic on April 28, 2013, 09:20:58 PM
Quote from: delzep on April 26, 2013, 11:29:06 PM
Its MY thread right

(http://i.imgur.com/qMSNdnQ.gif)

I'm with delzep on this one!
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: LordEoin on April 28, 2013, 10:33:39 PM
Quote from: deadman1972 on April 28, 2013, 12:58:13 PM
I am sorry Lord eoin but i dont agree and while i have not read the forum rules recently i am pretty sure thats not in there(open to correction). If i start it then i have the right to finish it at any time of my choosing,If the thread is not mine then why the hell would i ever bother posting knowing i am giving up total control of something i started?
I don't know why you post, but I suppose for support, information, conversation, etc
Why would anybody bother taking the time to reply and provide those things if you had the ability and open desire to delete the threads that you start?
But that's just my opinion, and I'll leave it here safe in the knowledge that you cannot remove it.
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: johnrm on April 29, 2013, 12:25:40 AM
Not 'Forum Rules', but here is the 'Forum Agreement' if you want to have a look.
I have taken the liberty of highlighting what I feel are the more salient points.

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Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: JimmyM on April 29, 2013, 01:01:17 AM
iydlifo
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: Greg2013 on April 29, 2013, 01:35:25 AM
Ok guys firstly i have my reasons that i cannot say about. I started this like most of my posts without thinking ahead. Padraic and delzep i have to get that video send me a link please. There is only one line i will not cross so i am liable to say anything. Oh btw i am pissed on IG original, a treat to myself after the stress of exams so excuse the typos and rambling.

Before i start John rm i did say i had not read the NHC rules or regs or whatever recently.

Ok back to business, purely from my point of view( MY point of view and no others) i am 41 yrs old and i am not about to ask permission from anybody else to delete something i started. If that is the way things are here then i am sorry but i will not be sticking around( big loss i know). I am not 1 i am 41 and ye can think what ye like about my opinions but if we are truly adults then why do any of ye have the right to tell me what to do with something i started? I dont believe i am going to get anywhere with the powers that be here so this will be my last post for a while( try to contain the dissapointment).

Let me finish by saying this, if the person that posted in my name acknowledged that they did so and apologised by pm then i would not have kicked off on this. If you need to ask,think about this, who has the ability to do such a thing ? I have made some friends here and i am sorry this has happened, i have made some enemies as well no doubt. All that said i stand by my sentiment, if i start it then its mine to do with as i please, not NHC but mine, not normally a problem for sharing purposes. Where it is a MAJOR problem for me is that someone deems that i need to ask permission to have my own thread that i started deleted or altered.

I wish the NHC all the best for the future and i will drop in occasionally to check up on the SE club etc, for now and the foreseeable future peace and good wishes :'(
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: Ciderhead on April 29, 2013, 06:57:30 AM
Cop onto yourself you big girls blouse  :)
You are entitled to delete your own stuff but if a load of others make contributions you can't seriously expect to be able to delete theirs as well
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: newToBrew on April 29, 2013, 07:15:56 AM
I think the real question should be not how do I delete ny post but how did some one else post in your name ???

What's that all about ?
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: Padraic on April 29, 2013, 07:48:34 AM
Did someone split an off topic post from another one to start a new thread? Is this what is annoying you deadman?

I think that as the guys said all threads become communal as more than one person has contributed, l can't see how you disagree with that! It's kind of like saying the rugby game belonged to Ronan o Gara because he kicked the ball first! Or even scored the first points!

Anyway I really don't think this thread is getting is anywhere!

To get a link to that gif you need to just hit quote beside one of our posts!
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: Partridge9 on April 29, 2013, 08:55:23 AM
Quote from: deadman1972 on April 29, 2013, 01:35:25 AM
Ok guys firstly i have my reasons that i cannot say about. I started this like most of my posts without thinking ahead. Padraic and delzep i have to get that video send me a link please. There is only one line i will not cross so i am liable to say anything. Oh btw i am pissed on IG original, a treat to myself after the stress of exams so excuse the typos and rambling.

Before i start John rm i did say i had not read the NHC rules or regs or whatever recently.

Ok back to business, purely from my point of view( MY point of view and no others) i am 41 yrs old and i am not about to ask permission from anybody else to delete something i started. If that is the way things are here then i am sorry but i will not be sticking around( big loss i know). I am not 1 i am 41 and ye can think what ye like about my opinions but if we are truly adults then why do any of ye have the right to tell me what to do with something i started? I dont believe i am going to get anywhere with the powers that be here so this will be my last post for a while( try to contain the dissapointment).

Let me finish by saying this, if the person that posted in my name acknowledged that they did so and apologised by pm then i would not have kicked off on this. If you need to ask,think about this, who has the ability to do such a thing ? I have made some friends here and i am sorry this has happened, i have made some enemies as well no doubt. All that said i stand by my sentiment, if i start it then its mine to do with as i please, not NHC but mine, not normally a problem for sharing purposes. Where it is a MAJOR problem for me is that someone deems that i need to ask permission to have my own thread that i started deleted or altered.

I wish the NHC all the best for the future and i will drop in occasionally to check up on the SE club etc, for now and the foreseeable future peace and good wishes :'(

I think a thread got split - and it was around your post - so you became the owner - you are entitled to delete your posts but not threads - or others posts
I think you mis-understood how the system works - try doing that on boards.ie - you'll get the same reaction.

Best of luck in your exams !
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: delzep on April 29, 2013, 09:43:33 AM
Its a bit like starting a conversation in a pub and then after 10 minutes of chatting saying to everyone involved to completely forget everything that was said
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: nigel_c on April 29, 2013, 10:09:04 AM
Did you leave yourself logged in on your computer and someone posted something? Can't see how someone could post as someone otherwise. Can't see anyone going all hacker on anyone's account.
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: johnrm on April 29, 2013, 10:30:22 AM
Quote from: delzep on April 29, 2013, 09:43:33 AM
Its a bit like starting a conversation in a pub and then after 10 minutes of chatting saying to everyone involved to completely forget everything that was said
...unless someone has a phone and puts it up on Youtube.  ::)
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: johnrm on April 29, 2013, 10:49:22 AM
Back on topic...

I checked the forum settings...
User has 14 days to Edit, after this a Mod has to do it.
10 Minutes are allowed for a post to be edited before logging the last edit date.
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: Shane Phelan on April 29, 2013, 11:02:59 AM
Quote from: johnrm on April 29, 2013, 10:49:22 AM
Back on topic...

I checked the forum settings...
User has 14 days to Edit, after this a Mod has to do it.
10 Minutes are allowed for a post to be edited before logging the last edit date.

Just curious, as this has affected me in the past, why limit the editing to 14 days?  I know for 95% of threads that is fine but for tasks/stickies that last longer than that it is a problem.
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: Shane Phelan on April 29, 2013, 11:30:38 AM
SEO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_engine_optimization)? Is that what you mean?

If it is do minor edits make a big deal to that?
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: LordEoin on April 29, 2013, 01:56:46 PM
 :(
Title: Re: Remove Your Own Posts.
Post by: johnrm on May 16, 2013, 11:31:28 PM
Locking this thread.
Please PM any objections.
Thanks