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Title: Large Stock Pot - 30L
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on February 27, 2013, 12:10:16 PM
I'm in the market for a second fermenter. I used to use a converted keg but had to leave that at my Westmeath house due to space.
I currently use a glass carboy but would rather not go glass again. I have not used plastic buckets in years.
What I am looking at is a large stock pot.
TheBeerClub.ie has these 30L pots for €40 (http://www.thebeerclub.ie/30L_Stainless_Steel_Stock_pot/450/) so I'm wondering has anyone bought one?

Incidentally, I probably would not use that for a boiler. I might want something thicker and more durable. Such as this 36L heavy duty one (http://www.mybeerandwine.ie/heavy-duty-stock-litre-p-309.html) from MyBeerAndWine.ie As it stands, I'm happy enough with my plastic bucket boiler.
Title: Re: Large Stock Pot - 30L
Post by: Greg2013 on February 28, 2013, 09:19:55 AM
That mybeerandwine is a great site allright but jaysus you couldn't buy his gear at the prices he charges :'(

There is a 28.5 litre one for sale in Heatons for 26 euro.
Title: Re: Large Stock Pot - 30L
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on February 28, 2013, 10:46:21 AM
Oooh 28.5 should be big enough.
Is that Heatons in Blanch?
Title: Re: Large Stock Pot - 30L
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on February 28, 2013, 10:49:02 AM
Never mind, the store checker confirms it's available. Nice one, I know where I'm going after work and before I head in to W.J Kavanagh's
Title: Re: Large Stock Pot - 30L
Post by: Jacob on February 28, 2013, 11:09:16 AM
QuoteNever mind, the store checker confirms it's available. Nice one, I know where I'm going after work and before I head in to W.J Kavanagh's
Can't find it :/ Can you post URL?
Title: Re: Large Stock Pot - 30L
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on February 28, 2013, 11:23:06 AM
http://www.heatonsstores.com/Product/Stanford-Stainless-Steel-Stockpot-30cm/259667/1502020200

Hmm I'm here now but I don't think it's 28.5l
Title: Re: Large Stock Pot - 30L
Post by: DEMPSEY on February 28, 2013, 11:32:42 AM
Ask a member of staff if they have a 1 Litre jug and could you use the staff toilets to check it. Tell them your a science Teacher from the local school and with all the cut backs and all, :D
Title: Re: Large Stock Pot - 30L
Post by: Jacob on February 28, 2013, 11:46:18 AM
Quotehttp://www.heatonsstores.com/Product/Stanford-Stainless-Steel-Stockpot-30cm/259667/1502020200

Hmm I'm here now but I don't think it's 28.5l
Thanks for the link. Grap a measuring tape and check if pot height is at least 40cm.

Volume = [ch928]r2h
Title: Re: Large Stock Pot - 30L
Post by: Will_D on February 28, 2013, 12:28:06 PM
If its 30 cm dia then by looking at the photo it is not 30 cm high. Lets say 28 to the absolute top. As you wouldn't fill to absolute brim have to knock off say 8 cms so we have more like 15 litres

 
Title: Re: Large Stock Pot - 30L
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on February 28, 2013, 12:29:46 PM
I have a 16 litre one at home and this is about the same size.
At most it's about 18.5l
Title: Re: Large Stock Pot - 30L
Post by: DEMPSEY on February 28, 2013, 02:34:55 PM
To hell with the tapes,did you not ask for a jug. :)
Title: Re: Large Stock Pot - 30L
Post by: Greg2013 on February 28, 2013, 10:08:38 PM
Well if its only 18 litres odd then how the hell are they advertising it for 28.5 litres. I was heading to Waterford next week to get one but i doubt i will now. Of course you could buy it as a 28.5 litre and fill it at home and measure and then if its not bring it back?
Title: Re: Large Stock Pot - 30L
Post by: Greg2013 on February 28, 2013, 10:09:32 PM
Sorry m8 i thought i had found you a good one :-[
Title: Re: Large Stock Pot - 30L
Post by: Dara on February 28, 2013, 11:11:02 PM
Hi,

I am also beginning to look at stainless fermentors. My beerandwine used to sell a 30L pot for about 42 quid similar looking to thebeerclub.ie one. I have this and use it for a boiler - great job (33L to the brim). I don't have too much homebrew experience but fail to see the obsession with homebrewers and thick gauge steel pots (caveat; unless you have it on gas). I reckon For the average amature brewer thin gauge steel is the way to go - it is easy to drill holes in and it also is easier to get a seal for non-welded fittings. If you drop it, it's easier to repare than a glass carboy. Sorry drunken rant, been drinking a few belgian's this evening. I've a bee in my bonet on stainless steel!

Dara
Title: Re: Large Stock Pot - 30L
Post by: Will_D on February 28, 2013, 11:24:43 PM
QuoteI'm in the market for a second fermenter. I used to use a converted keg but had to leave that at my Westmeath house due to space.
I currently use a glass carboy but would rather not go glass again. I have not used plastic buckets in years.

I would not use a stockpot as a secondary fermenter. The lid is not airtight.

For Primary I use a fermenting bucket with a air lock.

For secondary I either use a wine fermenter with a 4" neck so you get your hand inside or a poly pressure barrel fitted with an airlock
Title: Re: Large Stock Pot - 30L
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on March 01, 2013, 10:37:29 PM
I almost never secondary any more. It's pretty pointless short of dry hopping and I can do that in the keg.

Also, a fully airtight lid might be desirable by homebrewers but it's not necessary. Not in the least. In fact many UK breweries don't even cover their fermenters and leave them open. The yeast is all the protection they need. As long as the lid keeps dust particles, cat hair and insects out, it's doing the job.

A stock pot is not ideal, but I don't trust plastic, even if it is somewhat irrational. I just don't want to deal with the one time an infection hides in a scratch and ruins my beer.  I also don't want another glass carboy. Besides, it can always be converted to a boiler or HLT at a later stage.
Title: Re: Large Stock Pot - 30L
Post by: Will_D on March 02, 2013, 07:18:52 AM
Ok, fair enough

Have you checked these out:

http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_nkw=kochtopf&_clu=2&_dmpt=DE_Haus_Garten_Kochen_T%C3%B6pfe_Pfannen&_fcid=99&_localstpos=&_sop=16&_ssn=catering-portal&_stpos=&gbr=1

I know it looks like an auction but just e-mail them and they will quote you a price and delivery to Ireland.

I bought 4 pots from them for a very good price.
Title: Re: Large Stock Pot - 30L
Post by: Greg2013 on March 02, 2013, 11:22:36 AM
Will D tis in German ;D
Title: Re: Large Stock Pot - 30L
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on March 02, 2013, 11:33:52 AM
Have seen that link floating around. Someone on beoir mentioned a 70l pot for €80 delivered.
Title: Re: Large Stock Pot - 30L
Post by: Will_D on March 02, 2013, 09:58:35 PM
I ordered a few ( :) ) last year:
This was their quote:

10221 - 47,90 EUR  100L
10224 - 40,50 EUR   70L
10220 - 2 x 36,90 EUR 50L
10223 - 28,90 EUR 33L
+
39,90 EUR shipping

I've yet to drill a hole in any but the SS is about 1mm thick.

I believe "Christhehoppimp" from Bray has drilled them and they are a good quality thickness of SS for the price.

(As one gold medal winner to another: Well Done!!)

Was a hell of a day eh!!
Title: Re: Large Stock Pot - 30L
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on March 02, 2013, 10:09:13 PM
I only got silver  :'(
Title: Re: Large Stock Pot - 30L
Post by: rukkus on March 03, 2013, 08:07:21 PM
http://www.thehomebrewcompany.ie/tank-stainless-steel-flat-bottom-lid-tap-55-lt-p-1817.html these look nice, they also have a smaller one. I bet the 55ltr ones would make awesome boilers
Title: Re: Large Stock Pot - 30L
Post by: rollout on March 06, 2013, 05:40:37 PM
QuoteI ordered a few ( :) ) last year:
This was their quote:

10221 - 47,90 EUR  100L
10224 - 40,50 EUR   70L
10220 - 2 x 36,90 EUR 50L
10223 - 28,90 EUR 33L
+
39,90 EUR shipping

I've yet to drill a hole in any but the SS is about 1mm thick.

I believe "Christhehoppimp" from Bray has drilled them and they are a good quality thickness of SS for the price.

(As one gold medal winner to another: Well Done!!)

Was a hell of a day eh!!

Hi Will,

Could you tell me what is the diameter of the 33 and 50 litre pots?
Title: Re: Large Stock Pot - 30L
Post by: Will_D on March 06, 2013, 08:59:55 PM
Ye could always follow the link!!

It may be in German but its pretty easy!

Any way:

All their pots are "square" so:

50L 400 x 400 mm
33L 350 x 350 mm

Title: Re: Large Stock Pot - 30L
Post by: rollout on March 06, 2013, 09:53:20 PM
QuoteYe could always follow the link!!


Damn, had been looking at other ebay sellers that didn't list the diameters and got a bit mixed up.

My bad.

Cheers.