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Title: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: Mick_K on June 17, 2013, 01:00:53 PM
Hi folks,

I've been doing kits for about a year now and have decided to take the plunge and move over to BIAB so that i can start to brew the export and imperial stouts of my dreams - amongst other things. So i've been completely melting my head researching on youtube and I just can't pin down which pot to buy. I'll be going for max 5 gallon batches, but I'm worried that the grain bill will displace a lot of water during the mash. I'm also a wee bit concerned that my (glass) hob might struggle with the weight. Makro do a 36l stainless stockpot - this is going to do me fine, right? Also, DIY wort chiller..... doddle to make? Anyway, sorry in advance if I ask a load of stupid questions for a month or two, it's a bit of a learning curve at the moment.
Cheers,
Michael
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: matthewdick23 on June 17, 2013, 01:03:14 PM
hey michael- welcome to the forum

how much is the makro ss pot? i'd say 36L is grand

i've been thinking we should do a belfast brewday equipment build soon one month- maybe include making a bunch of wort coolers in that day? would love to do that as well as modify some kegs...
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: Mick_K on June 17, 2013, 01:09:20 PM
Funny, taking an angle grinder to the top of a keg had crossed my mind.... then I started reading about burner issues etc - head melted again!
Makro pot is £53.
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: matthewdick23 on June 17, 2013, 01:13:34 PM
I got a 50L ss from ebay in germany which included p&p. i think it was £40, but was def cheaper than £53
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: Mick_K on June 17, 2013, 01:31:07 PM
Don't suppose you remember the name of the seller at all? I can't see prices close to that for stainless on ebay.
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: matthewdick23 on June 17, 2013, 02:07:35 PM
something like this

contact the seller directly, dont buy thru ebay wit them- they gave me a better deal that way, and its wot others have done on other forums:

mine was 50euro which included delivery and was ss

catering-service-fr <catering-service-fr@bergland24.de>

matthew
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: Bill_00 on June 17, 2013, 03:18:35 PM
36L should leave you room for boilover...you shouldn't really need more than a 27/29 litre I imagine, that's what my boiler is anyway.

If you buy soft copper the wortchiller shouldn't be too bad if you have the appropriate tools (I didn't)/

Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: matthewdick23 on June 17, 2013, 03:44:47 PM
actually gave u the wrong email

catering-service-fr.Berglandfrance@msg.afterbuy.de

that'll be the one
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: Garry on June 17, 2013, 03:57:53 PM
Quote from: matthewdick23 on June 17, 2013, 03:44:47 PM
actually gave u the wrong email

catering-service-fr.Berglandfrance@msg.afterbuy.the

that'll be the one


The forum's word censoring replaces "d-e" with "the"  >:(  It's supposed to correct our use of text speak or something?
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: matthewdick23 on June 17, 2013, 04:20:13 PM
thanks garry- yeah, its  .d-e  (without the ' - ')   not .the
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: Mick_K on June 17, 2013, 07:37:20 PM
Tried to email a few minutes ago, yahoo not accepting the address. Any other ideas? Seems like there's a stockpot market to be cornered here by someone!
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: Will_D on June 17, 2013, 08:03:40 PM
Quote from: Mick_K on June 17, 2013, 07:37:20 PM
Tried to email a few minutes ago, yahoo not accepting the address. Any other ideas? Seems like there's a stockpot market to be cornered here by someone!
the email address I use is:

catering-portal@bergland24.d-e without the -!!

Can we turn off this text speak yoke?
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: Mick_K on June 17, 2013, 08:08:02 PM
Thanks, that one sent ok. hopefully won't have to wait long for a reply.
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: sub82 on June 17, 2013, 08:45:05 PM
We've the 36L from Makro and don't need more than that for 25L batches. It's pretty good as every inch in height is approximately 1L in volume - brilliant for when you forget to record how much has gone in! Although if you can get a 50L for cheaper I'd probably go for that.

Definitely be careful of the stove top - have been worried about ours a couple of times! Matthew has a great gas burner which he brought to the brew demo - we're thinking of getting one of those.
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: matthewdick23 on June 17, 2013, 10:01:23 PM
yeah the burner is pretty good- from bangor too.  although I think the price of gas has gone up a lot since my last gas purchase
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: BrewBilly on June 18, 2013, 08:01:44 AM
Hi Mick

I was thinking of getting the 50l pot from the homebrew builder (www.homebrewbuilder.co.uk) for £55, they will also cut holes in it for you to put in heating elements or temp probes. The makro 36l pot is £44.99 online at the moment, I would be inclined to think that for £11 extra and get a bigger pot for future brewery expansion.

Matt, a brew day building equipment would be ace, I would be keen to build a chiller.

Looking forward to the meet on Friday.

Cheers
BrewBilly aka Andy
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: matthewdick23 on June 18, 2013, 08:27:05 AM
not sure if the makro one is ss- check with chris
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: Bazza on June 18, 2013, 09:52:53 AM
Re: the brew day equipment build:
If anyone wants a demo on how to make a cheap but effective sparge arm for less than a couple of quid then let know. The only real skill is in keeping a steady hand when knocking the holes in using a hammer and small nail :)

If this equipment build idea's got legs (and it appears it does), maybe we should start a new thread for people to post what they'd like to see made or like to demo.

-Barry
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: Bazza on June 18, 2013, 10:29:28 AM
QuoteIf this equipment build idea's got legs (and it appears it does), maybe we should start a new thread for people to post what they'd like to see made or like to demo.

Done:

http://nationalhomebrewclub.com/forum/index.php/topic,2870.0.html


-Barry
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: iain_todd on June 18, 2013, 10:40:25 AM
Quote from: matthewdick23 on June 17, 2013, 01:03:14 PM

i've been thinking we should do a belfast brewday equipment build soon one month- maybe include making a bunch of wort coolers in that day? would love to do that as well as modify some kegs...


Yeah I'd love to make a wort cooler - would save me so much time!
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: Mick_K on June 18, 2013, 07:25:47 PM
So I spoke to the folks in Germany. Waiting to hear about shipping costs but it looks like I'm going to get a 50L which won't be hob friendly and will necessitate a gas burner. Makes me wonder if I shouldn't sort out a mash tun now too rather than doing a few BIAB. Hmmmm, you folks are already costing me money...
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: Will_D on June 18, 2013, 08:48:03 PM
Quote from: BrewBilly on June 18, 2013, 08:01:44 AM
Hi Mick

I was thinking of getting the 50l pot from the homebrew builder (www.homebrewbuilder.co.uk) for £55, they will also cut holes in it for you to put in heating elements or temp probes. The makro 36l pot is £44.99 online at the moment, I would be inclined to think that for £11 extra and get a bigger pot for future brewery expansion.
Looks like a very useful site!
Will bookmark it up
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: Mick_K on June 20, 2013, 07:47:12 PM
The lovely German folks will do a 50l for €59 including shipping. Home brew builder is £55 plus £12 shipping which takes me towards the German one, except that the English guys will put a tap in it for £30extra (handy) and can do heating elements (although I think a gas burner will do me), thermometers, sight glass etc too. Still a bit confused. I want to be sure that whatever I invest in now will serve me well for a good few years.
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: matthewdick23 on June 20, 2013, 10:42:29 PM
we could upgrade the german ss pot on the belfast equipment build day together. id recommend stainless, maintains heat better and heats up faster
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: sub82 on June 21, 2013, 12:03:01 AM
Is it easy enough to do? Would be really interested in seeing how it's done.
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: matthewdick23 on June 21, 2013, 07:25:20 AM
should be easy enough- esp for the tap fitting. ud just needa bring the materials and equipment
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: Bazza on June 21, 2013, 09:35:28 AM
What do you use to cut holes in the ss, Matthew?

I've been toying with buying qmax cutters off Amazon but if you've already got something to do the job I'd pay you in beer for a borrow. Been toying with buying a ss pot myself (around 30-32L) to turn into a boiler so need to cut 2 holes for elements and 1 for a tap.

-Barry
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: matthewdick23 on June 21, 2013, 09:44:11 AM
no idea barry, lol!

thats the only problem wit the suggestion of a july equipment build day- im awful at this kinda stuff. totally clueless lol!

we needa identify the handyman in the group!
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: matthewdick23 on June 21, 2013, 09:44:38 AM
but you can pay me in beer anyways. i'll give you a highfive for some beer...
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: Bazza on June 21, 2013, 10:00:29 AM
Haha!

Yeah, did anyone think to ask a spark or a plumber to the next brew day?

-Barry
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: matthewdick23 on June 21, 2013, 01:08:03 PM
wildcard

http://www.angelhomebrew.co.uk/en/stockpots/11-70-l-stainless-steel-pot.html
Title: Re: Hi from a newboy.
Post by: Bill_00 on June 21, 2013, 01:11:13 PM
Damn it...I want to buy the Tiki Bar plans from that site now