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Title: Anyone here know about electronics?
Post by: admin on June 25, 2013, 10:28:51 PM
Specifically capacitors?
Title: Re: Anyone here know about electronics?
Post by: LordEoin on June 26, 2013, 04:36:05 AM
I know that:
a: they hurt if you touch them
b: max sheck's power station was just a giant capacitor.
Otherwise, clueless.
Title: Re: Anyone here know about electronics?
Post by: JD on June 26, 2013, 10:27:53 AM
What do you need to know about capacitors?
Title: Re: Anyone here know about electronics?
Post by: Damofto on June 26, 2013, 10:44:28 AM
My brother is an electronic engineer, he builds power supplies.  I can ask him any questions you have if that's any help?
Title: Re: Anyone here know about electronics?
Post by: JD on June 26, 2013, 11:23:54 AM
Hi Tube,
The voltage rating on a capacitor is a breakdown voltage. As long as they operate below that voltage level, they won't breakdown. As far as your case is concerned using higher voltage caps is perfectly fine.

If your original caps failed because they had a lower voltage rating than required, the chances are that the rest of the power supply suffered some collateral damage. The capacitor failure will often manifest as either a short or an open circuit. In a power supply, either condition can mean that the switching circuit before the cap is overloaded and you can get a cascade failure.
Hopefully this is not the case.

If your power supply is cycling, it suggest that a feedback loop is not working. Since the device worked originally, then something has broken in the existing feedback circuit. So, try the following:
Also, be careful if you are checking the power supply with its load disconnected. Operating a switched-mode power supply without a load is likely to cause damage or at least push the circuit outside of its design limits. Many switched-mode power supplies need a connected load to work correctly. Some have protection mechanisms against it, but not all.

/J
Title: Re: Anyone here know about electronics?
Post by: delzep on June 26, 2013, 11:41:22 AM
you mean you don't have one of those tellys with the wooden sides just like your ye olde tyme amstrads etc.?  :o
Title: Re: Anyone here know about electronics?
Post by: JD on June 26, 2013, 11:42:51 AM
Tube,

Cards on the table: my career took me away from hardware back in the late 80s and I've been writing code ever since. It's been many years since I wielded a soldering iron in anger.

As regards your issue, there is no real 'next most likely' thing to go. Capacitors can be fragile if they are below rating but most other components are fairly robust at the voltage levels concerned. The failure of the capacitors can push the whole circuit over the edge and it'll be the weakest link that fails. That could be any other device. If fate has anything to say about it, it will be the most awkward or most expensive component.

The burnt finger test is the best bet for where to go next.
/J
Title: Re: Anyone here know about electronics?
Post by: delzep on June 26, 2013, 11:44:25 AM
Tubes gaff will be one of those hoarders shows on discovery in a few years  ;D