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Brewing Discussions => Equipment & Chemicals => Topic started by: Seanboy on July 17, 2013, 06:59:54 AM

Title: boiler/valves
Post by: Seanboy on July 17, 2013, 06:59:54 AM
Hi can any one help me out I'm looking for a valve for the bottom of my stainless steel guinness keg/boiler .. What's the best type and where too go get it ..?
Title: Re: boiler/valves
Post by: Shanna on July 17, 2013, 08:28:12 AM
Hi Seanboy

You can either install a brass or ss ball valve. I got one fron mybeerandwine see link for details.

http://www.mybeerandwine.ie/grain-equipment-accessories-c-114_123_218.html

I had a ss container that I drilled a 1/2" hole in the side using a bimetal hole saw that I picked up in lidl. Get a friend, a few planks of wood to stabilise the container and a spray gun full of water. Mark the outline of the hole using  the valve as an outkine. Take care with the position of the hole so your not entering too low or too high. You might want to tap the centre of the outline of the hole with a nail and a hammer to score the pot wall. Drill a small pilot hole for the hole saw. Use lots of downward pressure on the drill using a low speed. Get your mate to spray the drill point every few seconds to cool the pot and also the holesaw. The key is to go slow and steady. You might think it will take forever but your patients will be rewarded. Dont be tempted to use high revolutions on the drill as it will only blunt the hole saw.

When you break through take a file and file down the burs from edge of the hole. Now add your valve using oring, nutand waher from the kit.

Any questions give me a shout. The above is eexactly what I did earlier this year to convert my own pot.

Shanna
Title: Re: boiler/valves
Post by: Ciderhead on July 17, 2013, 09:27:12 AM
or your local plumbers merchants for between 5 and €10
Title: Re: boiler/valves
Post by: DEMPSEY on July 17, 2013, 10:58:10 AM
Quote from: Shanna on July 17, 2013, 08:28:12 AM
Hi Seanboy

You can either install a brass or ss ball valve. I got one fron mybeerandwine see link for details.

http://www.mybeerandwine.ie/grain-equipment-accessories-c-114_123_218.html

I had a ss container that I drilled a 1/2" hole in the side using a bimetal hole saw that I picked up in lidl. Get a friend, a few planks of wood to stabilise the container and a spray gun full of water. Mark the outline of the hole using  the valve as an outkine. Take care with the position of the hole so your not entering too low or too high. You might want to tap the centre of the outline of the hole with a nail and a hammer to score the pot wall. Drill a small pilot hole for the hole saw. Use lots of downward pressure on the drill using a low speed. Get your mate to spray the drill point every few seconds to cool the pot and also the holesaw. The key is to go slow and steady. You might think it will take forever but your patients will be rewarded. Dont be tempted to use high revolutions on the drill as it will only blunt the hole saw.

When you break through take a file and file down the burs from edge of the hole. Now add your valve using oring, nutand waher from the kit.

Any questions give me a shout. The above is eexactly what I did earlier this year to convert my own pot.

Shanna
Was that a 1/2" hole or did you need to drill it out to 22mm. The standard 1/2" brass fittings need a hole of 22mm. :)
Title: Re: boiler/valves
Post by: Seanboy on July 17, 2013, 09:45:48 PM
Quote from: Shanna on July 17, 2013, 08:28:12 AM
Hi Seanboy

You can either install a brass or ss ball valve. I got one fron mybeerandwine see link for details.

http://www.mybeerandwine.ie/grain-equipment-accessories-c-114_123_218.html

I had a ss container that I drilled a 1/2" hole in the side using a bimetal hole saw that I picked up in lidl. Get a friend, a few planks of wood to stabilise the container and a spray gun full of water. Mark the outline of the hole using  the valve as an outkine. Take care with the position of the hole so your not entering too low or too high. You might want to tap the centre of the outline of the hole with a nail and a hammer to score the pot wall. Drill a small pilot hole for the hole saw. Use lots of downward pressure on the drill using a low speed. Get your mate to spray the drill point every few seconds to cool the pot and also the holesaw. The key is to go slow and steady. You might think it will take forever but your patients will be rewarded. Dont be tempted to use high revolutions on the drill as it will only blunt the hole saw.

When you break through take a file and file down the burs from edge of the hole. Now add your valve using oring, nutand waher from the kit.

Any questions give me a shout. The above is eexactly what I did earlier this year to convert my own pot.

Shanna
Thanks shanna That's exactly what I'm after Must get my finger and order one now ..
Title: Re: boiler/valves
Post by: Shanna on July 17, 2013, 10:33:12 PM
5 to 10 euro buys you a brass or chrome ball valve and no food safe high temp orings. Stainless is the way to go in my opinion. Pay for it once or twice again when you decide to replace it.

Shanna
Quote from: Ciderhead on July 17, 2013, 09:27:12 AM
or your local plumbers merchants for between 5 and €10
Title: Re: boiler/valves
Post by: Shanna on July 17, 2013, 10:41:20 PM
Hi Dempsey

Just checked holesaw size I used was 7/8" or 22mm for the 1/2" ball valve fitting.

Shanna
Quote from: DEMPSEY on July 17, 2013, 10:58:10 AM
Quote from: Shanna on July 17, 2013, 08:28:12 AM
Hi Seanboy

You can either install a brass or ss ball valve. I got one fron mybeerandwine see link for details.

http://www.mybeerandwine.ie/grain-equipment-accessories-c-114_123_218.html

I had a ss container that I drilled a 1/2" hole in the side using a bimetal hole saw that I picked up in lidl. Get a friend, a few planks of wood to stabilise the container and a spray gun full of water. Mark the outline of the hole using  the valve as an outkine. Take care with the position of the hole so your not entering too low or too high. You might want to tap the centre of the outline of the hole with a nail and a hammer to score the pot wall. Drill a small pilot hole for the hole saw. Use lots of downward pressure on the drill using a low speed. Get your mate to spray the drill point every few seconds to cool the pot and also the holesaw. The key is to go slow and steady. You might think it will take forever but your patients will be rewarded. Dont be tempted to use high revolutions on the drill as it will only blunt the hole saw.

When you break through take a file and file down the burs from edge of the hole. Now add your valve using oring, nutand waher from the kit.

Any questions give me a shout. The above is eexactly what I did earlier this year to convert my own pot.

Shanna
Was that a 1/2" hole or did you need to drill it out to 22mm. The standard 1/2" brass fittings need a hole of 22mm. :)
Title: Re: boiler/valves
Post by: christhebrewer on July 18, 2013, 04:13:16 PM
Brass tank fitting and a regular plumming ball valve. Under a tenner for both. 22mm hole required. Use the plastic washers that come with the tank fitting.
Brass fittings work fine so why pay for the stainless ones?
Title: Re: boiler/valves
Post by: Shanna on July 18, 2013, 08:18:05 PM
Brass discolors over time and will stain. Not to mention the presence of small amounts of lead in brass fittings. Piratical preference to use stainless over brass and high temp food safe silicon orings over plastic washers.

Shanna
Quote from: christhebrewer on July 18, 2013, 04:13:16 PM
Brass tank fitting and a regular plumming ball valve. Under a tenner for both. 22mm hole required. Use the plastic washers that come with the tank fitting.
Brass fittings work fine so why pay for the stainless ones?