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Title: Professional brewery disinfectant 4 times cheaper than starsan
Post by: brenmurph on August 15, 2013, 11:50:47 AM
Hi all,

Followng up on discussions some weeks back, Vincent from Biocel has offered great prices to the club on professional disinfectants and cleaners.

I'm interested in this:

2.   Peracetic Acid Based Disinfectants
Pack sizes 5 lt x 4 .

Hydrox 5 % is the product most commonly used by micro breweries & home brewing.
Recommended usage rate is 0.6 % v/v or 600 mls per 100 lt of water to give the FDA recommended level of 300 ppm for food plant sanitation.
Hydrox 5 is priced at € 34/ 5 lt.

Problem is they sell in 4x 5 litres boxes.

price for 5 litres is 41.82 including vat and shipping is 2 euros for 5 litres making it 43.82 for 5 litres.

this is 5 times cheaper than starsan and is the product that is used in milking parlours and breweries.

I am looking for  three people to take 5 litre container each so we can buy a full box. The 5 litres could then be safely distributes locally  into 5 x 1 litre batches ( following all safety procedures of course). That would equate to a 29.99 bottle of starsan for  8.80euro.

Comments welcome
Title: Re: Professional brewery disinfectant 4 times cheaper than starsan
Post by: Jacob on August 15, 2013, 11:55:32 AM
Is that a non rinse?
Title: Re: Professional brewery disinfectant 4 times cheaper than starsan
Post by: irish_goat on August 15, 2013, 11:56:54 AM
Quote from: Jacob on August 15, 2013, 11:55:32 AM
Is that a non rinse?

At the right solution, yes. You use it the same way as StarSan.
Title: Re: Professional brewery disinfectant 4 times cheaper than starsan
Post by: brenmurph on August 15, 2013, 11:57:27 AM
yes no rinse  ill send spec sheet if I can
Title: Re: Professional brewery disinfectant 4 times cheaper than starsan
Post by: brenmurph on August 15, 2013, 12:00:07 PM
Hydrox

    Peracetic Acid based sanitiser
    Approved for no rinse sanitisation of food surfaces
    100% Biodegradable
    Available in 5%, 10%, 12%, 15%, 17.5% and 20% concentrations
    Pack Sizes 25L, 200L, 1000L


just go to biocel everything is there.. they are professional suppliers in cork for decades they know their stuff
Title: Re: Professional brewery disinfectant 4 times cheaper than starsan
Post by: brenmurph on August 15, 2013, 12:01:34 PM
Quote from: irish_goat on August 15, 2013, 11:56:54 AM
Quote from: Jacob on August 15, 2013, 11:55:32 AM
Is that a non rinse?

At the right solution, yes. You use it the same way as StarSan.

yes at 300ppm (the recomended) its a no-rinse...thats like a drop in a  500ml spray bottle like starsan.
Title: Re: Professional brewery disinfectant 4 times cheaper than starsan
Post by: irish_goat on August 15, 2013, 12:03:14 PM
We'd need suitable 1litre bottles as well. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Professional brewery disinfectant 4 times cheaper than starsan
Post by: brenmurph on August 15, 2013, 12:23:41 PM
Yes and follow handling and safety rules, clearly marked bottles..

Full data sheet is here

http://www.fileswap.com/dl/0HlAw7DArN/

click slow download to receive
Title: Re: Professional brewery disinfectant 4 times cheaper than starsan
Post by: brenmurph on August 15, 2013, 02:07:40 PM
Quote from: irish_goat on August 15, 2013, 12:03:14 PM
We'd need suitable 1litre bottles as well. Any thoughts?

ciderheads ur man :)
Title: Re: Professional brewery disinfectant 4 times cheaper than starsan
Post by: Eoin on August 15, 2013, 02:51:50 PM
Is there a surfactant in it that causes it to foam up? That aspect makes star san very useful.

Is it as water dependent as star san or does it have better buffering capabilities viz a viz hard water?
Title: Re: Professional brewery disinfectant 4 times cheaper than starsan
Post by: brenmurph on August 15, 2013, 02:53:36 PM
its all in this doc

http://www.fileswap.com/dl/AbwYTsstg7/

thats the full and detailed spec sheet.
Title: Re: Professional brewery disinfectant 4 times cheaper than starsan
Post by: Eoin on August 15, 2013, 03:08:44 PM
Quote from: brenmurph on August 15, 2013, 02:53:36 PM
its all in this doc

http://www.fileswap.com/dl/AbwYTsstg7/

thats the full and detailed spec sheet.

Not really, it's more in the format of an MSDS sheet which mentions handling methods, toxicity etc, not exactly a consumer product spec sheet, more for chemists.

It only mentions hazardous ingredients and I see no mention of sufactants in the article.

I'm also not aware of the buffering capabilities of the listed chemicals, so I'd need something more in laymans format than lab safety sheet. No worries.
Title: Re: Professional brewery disinfectant 4 times cheaper than starsan
Post by: brenmurph on August 15, 2013, 03:34:16 PM
http://www.fileswap.com/dl/0HlAw7DArN/

the consumer version