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Title: 10L Oak Barrel
Post by: sub82 on September 30, 2013, 08:49:53 AM
We have been given a handmade 10L oak barrel as a present and would be keen to get it up and running for an Xmas beer.

Does anyone know what we need to do before a beer can go into it. I know it'll need to be soaked in water to swell the wood but what is the next stage? Does it need sterilization or should it be filled with a strong beer?

Can it be used multiple times to age different beers?

Thanks,

Chris
Title: Re: 10L Oak Barrel
Post by: Will_D on September 30, 2013, 09:43:27 AM
Has the inside been charred?

It is specifically for wine storage?

Has it been varnished or oiled on the outside or just natural?

Assuming its OK to fill with beer/wine I would first add about 5 liters of water with about 4 campden tablets disolved. Give the cask a good steeping for a few days then drain, rinse and fill.

Fill with what? You may as well use what you intend to fill it with. New casks will impart a strong flavour quickly to a beer/wine so keep testing. As the cask matures the flavour impact will be lessened.

If you want to store the cask empty for periods of time just filll ( and keep full) with water and add a couple of CTs.
Title: Re: 10L Oak Barrel
Post by: Rossa on September 30, 2013, 09:53:07 AM
Sounds like it's not suitable. I'll look after it for you>:D (that is meant to be a devil)
Title: Re: 10L Oak Barrel
Post by: sub82 on September 30, 2013, 01:57:46 PM
Quote from: Will_D on September 30, 2013, 09:43:27 AM
Has the inside been charred?

It is specifically for wine storage?

Has it been varnished or oiled on the outside or just natural?

I don't know but will ask.

The people who ordered it for us know that we brew beer and had it purpose built for beer storage/serving.

I would say it is natural - there appears to be no surface treatment.

Quote from: Will_D on September 30, 2013, 09:43:27 AM
Fill with what? You may as well use what you intend to fill it with. New casks will impart a strong flavour quickly to a beer/wine so keep testing. As the cask matures the flavour impact will be lessened.

If you want to store the cask empty for periods of time just filll ( and keep full) with water and add a couple of CTs.

Sounds good - we'll maybe split a batch between a carboy and the barrel for flavour comparison.
Title: Re: 10L Oak Barrel
Post by: sub82 on September 30, 2013, 01:59:30 PM
Haha Rossa - that's awfully considerate of you!
Title: Re: 10L Oak Barrel
Post by: sub82 on September 30, 2013, 08:10:14 PM
Just on the charred question - is it necessary for it to be charred/toasted or is that more to do with personal preference for the final flavour profile?
Title: Re: 10L Oak Barrel
Post by: Will_D on September 30, 2013, 08:28:52 PM
Its a whiskey thing!

New American white oak casks are always charred ( as are beer casks ) it allows the staves to be bent ( from the heat ) but also it will then impart a certain flavour to the contents.

It is not a big deal but if you can look inside the cask with a small torch and you may see that it is charred.

You cannot make a trad. cask without some form of heat!
Title: Re: 10L Oak Barrel
Post by: sub82 on October 01, 2013, 07:44:07 AM
Ah cool - thanks Will! It's currently sealed but I'll find out from the maker.
Title: Re: 10L Oak Barrel
Post by: Greg2013 on October 01, 2013, 10:48:39 AM
Quote from: sub82 on October 01, 2013, 07:44:07 AM
Ah cool - thanks Will! It's currently sealed but I'll find out from the maker.

Maybe when you are asking the maker you could provide us here with there details as i am sure some of us would be interested in some of these, i know i wood  :P
Title: Re: 10L Oak Barrel
Post by: sub82 on October 01, 2013, 03:23:55 PM
Definitely! I'll get on it and get some details.
Title: Re: 10L Oak Barrel
Post by: sub82 on October 01, 2013, 04:20:58 PM
Just thought I'd post a picture of the keg. I should have more details by the end of the week.

(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b628/sub82/Public/null_zpsee131540-1.jpg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/sub82/media/Public/null_zpsee131540-1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 10L Oak Barrel
Post by: sub82 on October 01, 2013, 05:32:30 PM
Yep!  ;)

Definitely the most original present we were given!
Title: Re: 10L Oak Barrel
Post by: sub82 on October 01, 2013, 07:48:33 PM
Ah yeah - eagle eyes!!!
Title: Re: 10L Oak Barrel
Post by: irish_goat on October 01, 2013, 08:00:04 PM
Where is the opening? Can't seem to see one in the photo other than the tap.
Title: Re: 10L Oak Barrel
Post by: sub82 on October 01, 2013, 09:44:08 PM
Yeah - there isn't one yet. The wooden tap is only for display so we've to let him know what we want and he'll put it in for us.