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Title: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Brew_for_Buttons on November 01, 2013, 08:04:08 AM
I emailed these guys yesterday and asked them to add Ireland as a ship to country. They seem to have almost any variety you might want in varying quantities. Shipping shown below. Was going to give them a try, will let you know how I get on. Has any body any experience getting hops from US regarding taxes or duties.

www.yakimavalleyhops.com

International Shipping:
Up to 3.5  Pounds (1.6 Kg) =    $24   Padded Envelope
Up to 10 Pounds (4.5 Kg) =      $60     Medium Box
Up to 18 Pounds (8.1Kg) =       $78      Large Box
18+ Pounds = FedEx (Refer below)

FedEx International:
Must have FedEx account
Assume all duties and taxes
Email Us:  Info@yakimavalleyhops.com
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Jacob on November 01, 2013, 08:28:43 AM
They'll only ship pellets

QuoteNo international Shipping on Leaf (Custom Regulations)
Leaf hops are more bulky,  thus the weights have been adjusted to give accurate shipping quotes.

Also, they out of stock on most of the 'interesting' varieties + don't forget about customs ...
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Brew_for_Buttons on November 12, 2013, 09:24:10 AM
Just to update i placed an order on friday 1st of November and it arrived yesterday. The total order weight was 1.5 kg. Hops bought included Ahtanum,  NZ Nelson Sauvin, NZ Motueka, Citra Hops 2013 CROP,  Cascade, Centennial, Chinook and Columbus. Paid by paypal so total came to €68.23. No sign of any additional charges from customs yet but will update if they arrive. This looks like a good option for getting small amounts of pellet hops which can otherwise be awkward to get or overly expensive here. I priced the same order from other sources and it worked out more expensive and everything i wanted wasn't available in pellet.
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: irish_goat on November 12, 2013, 09:29:35 AM
Was it only the Citra that was 2013 crop?
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Brew_for_Buttons on November 12, 2013, 09:36:13 AM
Only the citra when i put the order in but they are updating their domestic pellets at the moment. I just put in a small order for a variety to see what they were like to buy from.
They have more 2013 stock up now.
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Ciderhead on December 09, 2013, 03:46:35 PM
Ordered 3lbs of Centenial, Citra and Cascade all 2013 crop.
Arrived within 2 weeks and still great value for money. I don't want to replace my local supplier but needed something fresh in a hurry.
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Jacob on December 09, 2013, 03:56:50 PM
Quote from: CH on December 09, 2013, 03:46:35 PM
Ordered 3lbs of Centenial, Citra and Cascade all 2013 crop.
Arrived within 2 weeks and still great value for money. I don't want to replace my local supplier but needed something fresh in a hurry.
Pellet or leaf?
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Ciderhead on December 09, 2013, 04:08:29 PM
Quote from: Jacob on November 01, 2013, 08:28:43 AM
They'll only ship pellets



To quote you!!  ;)
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Jacob on December 09, 2013, 04:09:11 PM
Quote from: CH on December 09, 2013, 04:08:29 PM
Quote from: Jacob on November 01, 2013, 08:28:43 AM
They'll only ship pellets



To quote you!!  ;)
Just chekin  8)

What about customs?
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Ciderhead on December 09, 2013, 04:12:00 PM
(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/13049/cheeky1.gif) (http://www.smileyvault.com/)

Customs are busy this time of year and I don't think are arsed as duty is small
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Jacob on December 09, 2013, 04:14:12 PM
Quote from: CH on December 09, 2013, 04:12:00 PM
(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/13049/cheeky1.gif) (http://www.smileyvault.com/)

Nice ... looks like I'll be gettin some fresh hops soon :)
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Ciderhead on December 09, 2013, 04:15:18 PM
I wasn't the only one that got some either :)
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Hop Bomb on December 09, 2013, 04:46:55 PM
I actually mailed these this morning about citra & simcoe. Il be ordering most of my hops from this crew as Im moving to pellets. If anyone wants to go splits on shipping on a big box I can get these shipped to a mate & then sent to Ireland.
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: DEMPSEY on December 09, 2013, 04:49:46 PM
I got some and NO F*+"*%g customs all pellet
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Hop Bomb on December 09, 2013, 04:51:37 PM
I wouldnt want to chance it on 8 kg of pellets though. Unless they dont mind marking down the value. Then Id have no issues direct shipping them here.
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: imark on December 09, 2013, 05:06:59 PM
Quote from: DEMPSEY on December 09, 2013, 04:49:46 PM
I got some and NO F*+"*%g customs all pellet
;D
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: nigel_c on December 09, 2013, 06:01:38 PM
Quote from: Jacob on December 09, 2013, 04:14:12 PM
Quote from: CH on December 09, 2013, 04:12:00 PM
(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/13049/cheeky1.gif) (http://www.smileyvault.com/)

Nice ... looks like I'll be gettin some fresh hops soon :)

Give me a shout if your putting in an order and ill jump in with you if its ok.
Title: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Ciderhead on December 09, 2013, 06:58:25 PM
Big volumes/values  attract attention I wouldn't risk more that the 3lbs at a time
Freight gets silly as well

If anybody else orders please share your experiences.

Mine was delivered through USPS, and delivered by postman Pat which is the actual name of my postman;)
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Ciderhead on December 09, 2013, 11:08:10 PM
Have a read of the attached anything over €22 has liability.
http://www.revenue.ie/en/customs/leaflets/postal-guide.pdf


Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Will_D on December 10, 2013, 11:16:12 AM
So below 22 you pay nothing

Between 22 and 105 you are only charged the vat plus the AnPost charge.

Over 105 its the works!
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Ciderhead on December 10, 2013, 01:34:35 PM
Duty on hops is just over 3% from US, I exact number in a another thread.
Picture yourself in An Post bod processing parcels at the moment, this time of year, how many parcels are they going to want to process that are 20-30 euro above the threshold, jan when things are quieter may be a different story.


Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: nigel_c on December 10, 2013, 04:16:38 PM
Placed an order today for some nice hipster hops. Great value. Got 4.5 lb (2 kg) for about € 100 delivered.
Apollo 1lb
Centennial 1lbl
Nelson Sauvin 1lb
Mosaic 1lb
Buzz Bullets 1/2lb (couldn't pass them up with name like that)

Can see some nice beers coming on tap in the next few months.
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Ciderhead on December 10, 2013, 08:29:59 PM
Nigel do you mind updating us if it arrives without duty?
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: nigel_c on December 10, 2013, 08:43:35 PM
Not a bother. I placed my order at 2pm today and I get an email at 7 saying my order had been shipped.  :)
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: beerfly on December 10, 2013, 10:02:42 PM
thinking about grabing some myself.  would be fun to play with some of those experimental ones and who does not want buzz bullets
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Hop Bomb on December 11, 2013, 12:08:07 AM
I've mailed them asking if they'll mark down the value on the box. If they will does anyone fancy splitting shipping on a large box? Simcoe is back in two weeks also.
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: St. Fursey on December 11, 2013, 11:36:40 PM
Count me in

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Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Will_D on December 12, 2013, 09:35:17 AM
Quote from: Hop Bomb on December 11, 2013, 12:08:07 AM
I've mailed them asking if they'll mark down the value on the box. If they will does anyone fancy splitting shipping on a large box? Simcoe is back in two weeks also.
What really annoys me is why pay duty and the vat on the postage? >:(

If asking for a write down I would suggest "Post Free" would be an moral option
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Will_D on December 12, 2013, 09:52:21 AM
Follow this part of the thread in the members only section!
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: nigel_c on December 19, 2013, 11:52:55 AM
Hops arrived. All good. No extra charges. I can see some nice beer betting brewed in the new year :)
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Jacob on December 19, 2013, 12:17:57 PM
F***, purchased some day or two before you and still waiting for them :(
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: nigel_c on December 19, 2013, 12:26:34 PM
I got mine delivered to my folks house because I'm not home much around this time of year. They tried to deliver yesterday but nobody was home. dropped off today. Don't feel bad Jacob I wont get to brew till the new year. But when I do  :)
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Ciderhead on December 19, 2013, 12:32:41 PM
Don't sweat it mine arrived before others in Dublin, unless you ordered 50lbs they will show up, you didn't order 50lbs did you Jacob!! ???
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Jacob on December 19, 2013, 01:25:29 PM
Quote from: CH on December 19, 2013, 12:32:41 PM
Don't sweat it mine arrived before others in Dublin, unless you ordered 50lbs they will show up, you didn't order 50lbs did you Jacob!! ???

Did I? :P

Just taking a piss :) But would be nice to get them before xmas. Better to keep them in the freezer then in AnPost warehouse.

Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Jacob on December 23, 2013, 09:35:41 AM
Hops arrived. No extra charges. Happy days!!!
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: imark on February 04, 2014, 01:36:06 PM
I ordered some on 21Jan. Arrived today with €16.86 charge from the customs boys.  :(
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: nigel_c on February 04, 2014, 01:43:20 PM
How much did you order?
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: imark on February 04, 2014, 03:57:14 PM
3.5lbs with a value of $65
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: nigel_c on February 04, 2014, 04:19:35 PM
Ouch.
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: imark on February 04, 2014, 04:31:57 PM
Tell me about it! Couple of varieties I couldn't get here in there though so no other option for getting them.
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Ciderhead on February 04, 2014, 11:39:35 PM
Is this cos boys are sitting around again?,
please advise how their charge was made up as duty should be just over 3%
Just had some land by Sis, or Donkey Drug Mule as she has started calling herself.
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: imark on February 05, 2014, 12:06:31 AM
Customs value = 47.23
Vat @ 23% = 10.86
An post fee = 6
Owed = 16.86
Robbery!
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: imark on February 05, 2014, 09:32:36 AM
What's most annoying is the an post fee which is a significant percentage of the customs cost.
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: imark on February 05, 2014, 09:53:06 AM
Ouch... That would really piss me off.
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Damien M on February 05, 2014, 09:56:40 AM
That's cos they have contracted out the Valuation Consideration bit to a private company! God bless the free market. ( provided its inside the Euro zone) and ( less than 20e in value) and (a box/letter smaller than x grams) Mr Dempsey has the details!
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Will_D on February 05, 2014, 10:07:22 AM
Was the package in any way "tampered" with?

ie. Had it been opened or had a probe been inserted?

If so then it might have been picked out as a "suspicious green leaf containg package" and subsequently analysed.

In order to pay for the negative investigation they slapped the VAT on.

Just a theorey!
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: imark on February 05, 2014, 10:28:54 AM
Didn't appear to be but there was quite a strong herbal smell from it.
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Will_D on February 05, 2014, 10:39:18 AM
Maybe then the fee went to pay for the "sniffer dog's food & doggy treats"
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Jacob on February 05, 2014, 10:43:49 AM
According to Section 11. from  Revenue Guide to Importing Goods through the Post available HERE (https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&sqi=2&ved=0CEYQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.revenue.ie%2Fen%2Fcustoms%2Fleaflets%2Fpostal-guide.pdf&ei=ExPyUvDOHofY7AatjoGABQ&usg=AFQjCNFPLlk-aIuAU5MGsG96p5v-PC7iGQ&sig2=kHUU71wP2rciOz-xQkozLg&bvm=bv.60799247,d.ZGU&cad=rja)
there should be no VAT on it.

QuoteHowever, there is no relief for importations of tobacco, tobacco products,
alcohol products, perfumes or toilet waters irrespective of their value.

Is it possible that because of the 'herbal smell' that thought that it might be tobacco?

Try to contact them to verify why they charged you.

Quote10.  Can I query a customs charge?
Yes. If you have a query on a specific customs charge you should contact Revenue
staff at the postal depot shown on the date stamp area of the Customs Docket with the
precise details of your package i.e. the parcel number, the sender's declaration and the
part of the packaging with your address on it. Alternatively, you can have your parcel
returned to the postal depot for reassessment.
E-mail contact details for the customs parcel depots are as follows:
Portlaoise  - parcelpost@revenue.ie
Athlone – athlonepost@revenue.ie
Dublin Mail Centre – dmc@revenue.ie

Also,

Quote16.  Can I appeal a decision made by Revenue?
Yes. If you are aggrieved by a decision made by Revenue you should outline the basis
for your appeal in writing enclosing the related documents and forward it to the person
from whom you received the written decision within 30 days of that decision. Any duty
under dispute must normally be paid or secured before the appeal can be processed.
Further information on Appeals is contained in Information Notice C & E No. 5
and/or  Information Notice C & E No. 6.
Title: Re: Yakima valley hops
Post by: Jacob on February 05, 2014, 11:15:31 AM
Yep, no customs duties.