Was in Superquinn a while ago, first time in a while. €3.42 for a 500ml bottle of Hooker. Doesn't make sense, when you can get a pint for a fraction over €4 in a lot of bars.
O'Haras is well over 3 quid a bottle in Dunnes too. Think I saw it for €3.20 (Leann Follain)
In fact it looked like all of Dunnes beer prices have gone up recently (since the budget?)
If only there was a way to make nice beer at home somehow on the cheap
In the UK, session (high volume) craft beers are sold to offies / shops for about £1 per 500ml bottle but I don't know what they retail for?
Over £1, volume drops off very quickly. When you take off the material/energy/water/duty costs there really isn't much left for the brewer especially when you consider that you have to market, sell and deliver it too!
Just back from 3 days in Chester ( real ale heaven) with what I believe is more craftpub/ brewpubs per head of population that anywhere else in the world ( I'm sorta of not messin ;) ;D.
We done the Tap (Camra regional winner), what a place.. the Ship, the Blueball brewhouse which is a gem, Chesterbells, the Pied Bull, of course the square bottle (wederspoons), which has a line of 10 different handpump ales. Besides that we done at least 5 or 6 other great craft pubs on our venture.
PRICES: Sterling (rate 85pence / euro)
( all hand-pumped real ales)
wederspoons: 1- 90 / pint to 2.25 per pint.
others from 2.20 to 2.75
The 'Tap' Camra region winner 2013 and other years.. cost 2-75 to 3-10
Average price of these fabulous beers about 2.40 a pint, cellered and pulled to perfection not one we could rate poorly.
Quote from: Il Tubo on November 05, 2013, 05:02:27 PM
Was in Superquinn a while ago, first time in a while. €3.42 for a 500ml bottle of Hooker. Doesn't make sense, when you can get a pint for a fraction over €4 in a lot of bars.
4 bottles of Hooker for €11 in Carry Out Clondalkin. And I think it's 4 O'Haras for €10. And Mountain Man / Green Bullet are 6 for €10.
Sounds lads in there. Alec the gaffer said he'd get in pretty much anything we'd want.
Just seen this on a Mates Feed on FB, WTF
I think the T-bar are gettin a bit outa control re prices, huge volume of sales usually means better value....working the opposite in temple bar pubs.... shame coz the locals will get pissed off eventually.
fair play to sweetmans sellin for 4 quid and porterhouse seems to offer fair prices??
@ tube, agree but it seems every pub on the street is chargin 6 quid for a comercial fizzy stuff and the crafts strangely in let say farringtons ( not singling them out, its just the one ive been in recently) are from ( correct me if Im wrong) about 4.80 for some crafts to 9 quid for the 'dogtoberfest' I had couple weeks ago) I know a couple others chargin huge sums.
Ive no issue paying extra for real beer but theres a limit and Ill die of thirst before I pay 7.15 for a coors >:( :o ???
Quote from: Covey on November 05, 2013, 11:03:57 PM
Just seen this on a Mates Feed on FB, WTF
Not really surprised there.
Quote from: brenmurph on November 05, 2013, 11:08:50 PM
I think the T-bar are gettin a bit outa control re prices, huge volume of sales usually means better value....working the opposite in temple bar pubs.... shame coz the locals will get pissed off eventually.
fair play to sweetmans sellin for 4 quid and porterhouse seems to offer fair prices??
Bren I think that is only for their own beers and besides all pubs with late licence in Dublin seem to jack up the prices when late licence hours kick in. The Porterhouse in Temple Bar definitely raise their prices for late licence hours
can appreciate sweetmans and porterhouse brew their own and may have an advantage, and accept prices rise at late hours...dosnt explain my main comment that high volume = low prices...the bar has huge volume, dosnt have to work hard to get footfall and should be in a position to sell at less, they are business people they can charge what they like as its a free market...its up to us to talk with our feet, however ultimatly tourism is suffering...would be interesting to see some evidence of repeat tourism because myself and kellie know that our english relations and friends cant afford to come to Ireland....they can go to anywhere in europe for half the price..
we go to UK at least a half dozen times a year coz theres fantastic value and quality in food and drink in UK...germany, france, holland, chech, poland and pretty much everywhere bar Ireland.
We need to consider above and stop ripping the S*** outa tourists
If people pay it, thats what it'll cost
Simple really
But doesn't it pee you off that you can get the same quality beer at so much cheaper prices in other countries?
I haven't been in Gogartys in years and I don't plan going there again anytime soon so it doesn't bother me. Galway Hooker is €4.40 a pint around the corner in Fitzsimons so that'll do me
Dusseldorf.....(schumacher, il fuschen, Kurtzer, and the others)...............top quality Altbier straight from the aging wooden barrel, 1.70 for 250cl measure, in the Dusseldorf 'Temple bar'
Austria, Achenkirch ski resort....2.70 for half litre of premium local Pilsner...
I nearly forgot, Munich Oktoberfest about 9 euros a litre last time I looked, ( correct me if Im wrong) bout 7 euros / litre when we were there in '07
were gettin screwed especially in temple bar..we need to talk with our feet as I said earlier, let them charge what they like nobody has to drink it except the tourists who are bein ripped to shreads on their holidays and dont come back again >:(
Quote from: delzep on November 05, 2013, 11:43:51 PM
I haven't been in Gogartys in years and I don't plan going there again anytime soon so it doesn't bother me. Galway Hooker is €4.40 a pint around the corner in Fitzsimons so that'll do me
agree Declan, Farringtons have some craft for 4-something to 9 euros and other pubs have fair prices on offer while some have the neck to charge 7.15 for a pint of fizz ;D
we pay 4.40 in Kildare for a choice of 6 crafts in Hartes and the lucan county seem to sell for just over 4 euros ( tube can clarify)
In times of recession its nice to see some publicans see sense and have some morals. we will certainly continue to support them. imagine a country where all the decent publicans die off and were left with super publicans again who name their price.. so again we need to ask / demand fair prices ( not cheap as I dont believe craft can or should be sold cheap). I have no issue paying an extra euro / pint to support craft. ;)
I've just come home after having 6 beamish (ok not craft beer but in my opinion the best of the 3 main dry stouts ) for 3 e a pint .it was 2.50 for a while last year .
Quote from: barkar on November 06, 2013, 01:15:03 AM
I've just come home after having 6 beamish (ok not craft beer but in my opinion the best of the 3 main dry stouts ) for 3 e a pint .it was 2.50 for a while last year .
Where :o 8)
If you look at the bottom of the receipt. 5 live acts a day and no cover charge so that's where some of extra cost is coming from. That said there are a few pubs in temple bar that charge reasonable prices and also have live music
Not the onlt place on the planet to price in the band. I was on Ibiza in the old town at a wedding 2 years back and myself and 4 others went in to a bar which had a live band that were about to start playing a little later on. I got in a round of drinks and 10 minutes later on came the band. My brother in law reordered the same round and it was 3 time the price,fooking 3 times. They had no notices up and all night as the band played everybody was complaining to the staff who were getting pretty pissed off. Bottle of miller went from €2.50 to €7.50 and don't asked what a Bacardi and coke was. We left. :)
Quote from: brenmurph on November 05, 2013, 06:14:16 PM
( all hand-pumped real ales)
wederspoons: 1- 90 / pint to 2.25 per pint.
others from 2.20 to 2.75
The 'Tap' Camra region winner 2013 and other years.. cost 2-75 to 3-10
Average price of these fabulous beers about 2.40 a pint, cellered and pulled to perfection not one we could rate poorly.
In the UK, hand pumped beer tends to be the best value. There is more work in conditioning casks for a brewery, but that is easily absorbed when the microbrewery hits a certain level of scale.
However, there is a glass ceiling on prices. You could make a fabulous double IPA on cask, but good luck finding a pub that will buy it off you at a price that will leave you with any margin.
Kegged craft beer can be more expensive. As it preserves well, pubs are more inclined to take it off your hands, and it allows higher price/higher ABV beers to be sold. You can pay £4+ for a half pint of imported kegged beer, in certain craft pubs in London.
You can also get some stunning deals - £4.80 for a pint of Lagunitas IPA in the Pelt Trader (EC1). More and more local breweries in the UK are taking direct control of importing US kegged beer. Its bringing the costs down, and it is helping with quality issues (hop character can fade away in transit).
You also have to consider with bottled beer, you are adding the cost of the bottles (which is not trivial) and the distributor and/or retailers cut.
Kegged/cask beer has no such 'container cost' (Key Kegs notwithstanding), and at certain scales the brewery can manage their own distribution, and ensure that kegs/firkins get returned.
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Quote from: barkar on November 06, 2013, 01:15:03 AM
I've just come home after having 6 beamish (ok not craft beer but in my opinion the best of the 3 main dry stouts ) for 3 e a pint .it was 2.50 for a while last year .
Where :o 8)
sorry know this thread has moved on but to answer -
Touristy village in the wyest ! , the other pub beside sells everything for 3 - to be fair its not a particularly nice place for beer,
I guess there's a couple of strands to this, one being Temple Bar rip off merchants, but I think another is that some folk have pushed an agenda that non-mega swill beer is craft is premium should cost more.
Cask isn't expensive in England, Trappist ale isn't expensive in Belgium, good alts, kolschs, whatever lager your having isn't expensive in Germany, yet some indigenous beers here cost more than the (expensive) imports.
As some one else send earlier it would nearly drive you to making it yourself.