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General Discussions => Brewing Communities => Belfast Homebrewers => Topic started by: matthewdick23 on November 19, 2013, 09:53:02 AM

Title: wine barrel
Post by: matthewdick23 on November 19, 2013, 09:53:02 AM
so some of the southern rascals are in early chatting mode about getting some wine barrels

is anyone from belfast area interested?  I'd love to get one, but they're big, so wondering if anyone wants to get in on it?

matthew
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: sub82 on November 19, 2013, 10:00:15 AM
Yeah - would definitely be interested! What would we put in it?
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: matthewdick23 on November 19, 2013, 10:07:14 AM
the world would be our oyster chris...
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: sub82 on November 19, 2013, 10:19:07 AM
Haha! Yeah defos - what sort of volume would we be looking at?
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: matthewdick23 on November 19, 2013, 10:24:29 AM
not sure tbh
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: Dunkel on November 19, 2013, 10:28:20 AM
Standard size wine barrels ("barriques") hold 225 litres. Other sizes are available, but this is the most common size.
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: Bazza on November 19, 2013, 10:52:45 AM
I'd be up for that.

Any idea where we'd be storing it?

-Barry
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: matthewdick23 on November 19, 2013, 11:32:47 AM
not really barry- i have room in the garage but it gets freezing in there, so prob not best

any thoughts anyone?
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: Paddy on November 20, 2013, 09:40:25 AM
Would need one helluva brew to fill it up ;) Maybe someone out there is friendly with a pub with spare room in their cellar?
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: matthewdick23 on November 20, 2013, 09:53:08 AM
we'd all brew the same recipe and come together to fill the barrel.  my proposal is that we all sample each others beer before putting it in the barrel to make sure its good beer going in (getting ahead of ourself here, but thats how itd work)

wouldnt trust a bar with this bad boy at all. i could possibly use a room in my parents- we'd need to look into what kind of conditions we need in the place where we are going to store it

matthew
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: Bazza on November 20, 2013, 10:15:20 AM
Quote from: matthewdick23 on November 20, 2013, 09:53:08 AMi could possibly use a room in my parent
I could move my kids' bunk bed into the box room, toys in the attic, lift the carpet, probably paint over the pink wallpaper. perfect! Kids have it too good these days as it is.

So, if this barrel has a 225L capacity we're talking about 10 5 gallon brews, maybe 11 if some of us are throwing a 19L corny's worth into it.

The pre-fill tasting session should be fun :)

Any makings of an idea of style yet (and I'm not asking do we have to all turn up in chinos or something)? Something porter-ish, perhaps?


-Barry
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: matthewdick23 on November 20, 2013, 10:36:32 AM
id say itd depend on what kind of barrel we get barry

white wine- id suggest something like a belgian golden strong or a saison maybe
red barrel- could do anything

id love to eventually sour the shit out of the barrel. but once we did that, we couldnt go back. maybe the belfast lot should get two barrels...
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: matthewdick23 on November 26, 2013, 09:59:20 PM
Right, looks like Tubo has sourced them

100euro. Ill collect it.

If you put your name in here, you're committing to splitting the cost of the barrel. equal split of beer

1.Matthew
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: Quiet_Man on November 27, 2013, 12:29:50 PM
Happy to chip in!

Andy
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: matthewdick23 on November 27, 2013, 12:31:25 PM
1. Matthew
2. Andy
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: Bazza on November 27, 2013, 01:34:10 PM
1. Matthew
2. Andy
3. Barry
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: sub82 on November 27, 2013, 02:16:30 PM
1. Matthew
2. Andy
3. Barry
4. Chris and Moira
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: iain_todd on November 28, 2013, 09:54:54 AM
Quote from: sub82 on November 27, 2013, 02:16:30 PM
1. Matthew
2. Andy
3. Barry
4. Chris and Moira
5. Iain


I was actually going to suggest what Shano said - how about blending beers?! Would that work? Could half follow one porter recipe and the rest follow a blonde recipe and mix the two together?!


And we could potentially stick it in my shed, but it'd be the same as MD's - cold. Would also need to know the size it would take up....



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Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: matthewdick23 on November 28, 2013, 09:58:59 AM
sweet- thats 5 so far

iain, the idea of blending that shane is talking about is more the Gueuze blending. so u brew a lambic over a number of years and then blend different amounts from different vintages/years. thats what a Gueuze is.
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: iain_todd on November 28, 2013, 10:07:46 AM
Ah roi', yeah my idea wouldn't really work.
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: sub82 on November 28, 2013, 11:29:23 AM
Iain - we'll be definitely getting some for the 14th! Have you not had them before from the Vineyard?
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: matthewdick23 on November 28, 2013, 11:36:29 AM
there may or may not be a sour beer tasting at the beer club in the new year...
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: iain_todd on November 28, 2013, 04:45:17 PM
Canny mind, like, but chances are I have. Sounds familiar, anyway. I've had the Liefman's fruit beers and Timmerman's peach beer...
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: matthewdick23 on November 28, 2013, 05:03:15 PM
my suggestion is to do a quad and sour it in the barrel
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: sub82 on November 29, 2013, 09:34:32 AM
Quote from: matthewdick23 on November 28, 2013, 05:03:15 PM
my suggestion is to do a quad and sour it in the barrel

So would we ferment using a saccharomyces yeast and then add the souring yeast (brettanomyces?) in the barrel?
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: matthewdick23 on November 29, 2013, 10:01:43 AM
we could do that chris, yeah

but the best results come from souring in the primary, apparently.

so it'd mean everyone involved with the project committing an fv to be sour for the rest of its life

not necessarily a bad thing!!
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: sub82 on November 29, 2013, 11:47:41 AM
True! We've been planning on have a shot at sour beers for a while but never got round to it - would be a good reason to start  ;D
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: matthewdick23 on November 29, 2013, 01:01:45 PM
boom
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: matthewdick23 on December 09, 2013, 04:00:33 PM
1. Matthew
2. Andy
3. Barry
4. Chris and Moira
5. Iain

Right thats 5. 5x20L = 100 L


I have a dasterdly plan for the rest of the beer

we're getting this poss before Xmas.  Ill pay for it and get money off folks at next meet

anyone else want in before we all pay?

start thinking about beer to do in it...


Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: Bill_00 on December 09, 2013, 04:19:48 PM
1. Matthew
2. Andy
3. Barry
4. Chris and Moira
5. Iain
6. Bill
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: matthewdick23 on December 09, 2013, 04:34:56 PM
good lad bill!!

have a look at this badboy

http://www.themadfermentationist.com/2008/10/plan-wine-barrel-flanders-red.html
Title: Re: wine barrel
Post by: Bazza on December 09, 2013, 04:39:19 PM
As they say in comics:

'Slooo'

-Barry