Any oner have any idea what is going on here:
http://www.beoir.org/community/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=9237
Is this some new co-op like what Tube is talking about?
Will
Seems to be along those lines all right
As you can see from their press release below they are a group of people who have gotten together to launch some beers and are currently planning on brewing them in other people's breweries, Mitchelstown is 8 degree's? So kinda like a contract brew but it looks like they did the brewing themselves.
The best idea Will is to head along tomorrow to their launch and ask them a load of questions!
QuoteBrown Paper Bag Project Launch
Brown Paper Bag Project releases their first beer onto the market this weekend in Dublin. The first of the 'Brown Paper Bag Projects' was dreamed up by Brian Short, Michael Foggarty, Colin Hession and Seáneen Sullivan, and brewed by Brian and Colin (clad in their finest galoshes) in Mitchelstown County Cork. It is brewed using a single hop (the delightfully named and eponymous Dr Rudi hop) and is a Belgian style ale. It has an ABV of 7.4% and pours a dark ruby red with a tightly bound foamy head. The beer will be on draught in L. Mulligan. Grocer of Stoneybatter and W. J. Kavanagh's of Dorset Street, as well as in 330mL bottles in selected off licenses. It is a great beer for contemplative sipping, for enjoying alongside a saucy portion of Moules Frites or a fine companion to an intriguing episode of Hercule Poirot.
Launch details.
8 p.m. Saturday 24th November 2012.
W. J. Kavanagh's, 4-5 Lower Dorset Street, Dublin 1.
QuoteThat's more like what Mikkeller do than the NHC Microbrewery Group Buy which is based on people sharing ownership of the equipment.
QuoteMikkeller is a so-called "phantom" or "gypsy" microbrewery founded in 2006. The company brews at a variety of host facilities.
I never knew that Mikkeller doesn't have a home!
So who holds the brewery licence? If its the brewery then how do the co-op SELL the beer?
Will
QuoteBrewery sell it to the co-op.
So can the co-op then re-sell it to pubs and offys?
I am more than a tad confused!!
Will
QuoteAnyone with an on or off licence can buy beer from who ever they like and sell it to the public. The only detail is where ever it is stored has to be bonded.
A bonded wharehouse is where a brewery or distillery store non-duty paid alcohol. Either it is exported ( via ships for example, which was why most older bonded wharehouses were inside a secure dock area ) , or it is released into the domestic market when the duty is paid
Still don't know how the paper bag project would work or also the NHC mega buy!!
Can we think this through?
Still no mention of the NHC scale of the brewery!!
Will
I think they must be registered as a brewery as well as where ever they are brewing (8 degrees at the minute)
This is the way Metalman operated before they got their own premises.
What ever way they are set up you can be sure the revenue are happy or it wouldnt be happening!
No mystery here as I see it. Anybody can go to a manufacturer of beer(brewery),contract them to produce a beer for you. They sell you the beer packaged as per your order,you then carry on to your business end and distribute your beer to the market. :)
Anybody know what quantities are involved and would this be an option for the recipe of the winner of the NHC competitiion?