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Title: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Covey on December 08, 2013, 10:57:59 PM

Well lads its been nearly 6 months since the first historic MCI group buy(Kudos to the Cork lads). I had 25kg myself and an half way through the second bag. Its good quality and unbeatable value not to mind Irish. So just putting an interest list for any one who wants in. There are 4 types available (all Whole Malt only). The Bag weights are roughly 12kg for around a tenner. This is a members only GB and will be moved to the Members only area later so why not join if your interested, more members means better buying powers in general.

Ale malt (AM)
Larger malt (LM)
Stout malt (SM)
Distillers Malt (DM)
Spec Sheets http://nationalhomebrewclub.com/forum/index.php/topic,2417.msg29656.html#msg29656

Covey

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Covey on December 08, 2013, 10:59:11 PM

1. Covey 3xAM, 1xSM

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Post by: delzep on December 08, 2013, 11:04:49 PM

Is it crushed or whole?

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Post by: Covey on December 08, 2013, 11:09:32 PM

Whole

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: AJ_Rowley on December 09, 2013, 03:07:16 AM

1. Covey 3xAM, 1xSM
2. AJ_rowley 2xAM 1xLM 1xSM

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Parrot on December 09, 2013, 08:07:56 AM

Is that 12kg bag size definite?

I ask only to be sure of the number of bags I put on the list as I thought the bags were 25kg and I will want 100kg total weight. (That's the max the storage bins I have will hold) ;)

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Rats on December 09, 2013, 09:33:03 AM

1. Covey 3xAM, 1xSM
2. AJ_rowley 2xAM 1xLM 1xSM
3. Ratsathome 3xAM

Sent from the thingy in my hand.

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Parrot on December 09, 2013, 12:10:26 PM

1. Covey 3xAM, 1xSM
2. AJ_rowley 2xAM 1xLM 1xSM
3. Ratsathome 3xAM
4. Parrot 3XAM, 3XLM, 4XDM

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: brenmurph on December 09, 2013, 12:30:24 PM

1. Covey 3xAM, 1xSM
2. AJ_rowley 2xAM 1xLM 1xSM
3. Ratsathome 3xAM
4. Parrot 3XAM, 3XLM, 4XDM
5 brenmurph 1 of each at least (4 bags), may take more depending on when it goes ahead.

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: AJ_Rowley on December 09, 2013, 12:47:03 PM

I know this is only an interest thread but am just wondering how this worked out for the east coast lads. I'm in bray and just wondering was it easy enough. If needs be a might be able to help out. I have a multipla which the back seats come out so I could maybe take a few bags

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Bogwoppit on December 09, 2013, 01:05:55 PM

1. Covey 3xAM, 1xSM
2. AJ_rowley 2xAM 1xLM 1xSM
3. Ratsathome 3xAM
4. Parrot 3XAM, 3XLM, 4XDM
5 brenmurph 1 of each at least (4 bags), may take more depending on when it goes ahead.
6. Bogwoppit 1xAM

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: johnrm on December 09, 2013, 02:36:06 PM

Lads, you're up to 23 bags = 0.650 Ton
Start thinking about moving this around the place.

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: AJ_Rowley on December 09, 2013, 06:49:06 PM

1. Covey 3xAM, 1xSM
2. AJ_rowley - Garden County Brewers - 2xAM 1xLM 1xSM
3. Ratsathome 3xAM
4. Parrot 3XAM, 3XLM, 4XDM
5 brenmurph 1 of each at least (4 bags), may take more depending on when it goes ahead.
6. Bogwoppit 1xAM

Just added my local club

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: brenmurph on December 09, 2013, 07:10:13 PM

1. Covey 3xAM, 1xSM
2. AJ_rowley - Garden County Brewers - 2xAM 1xLM 1xSM
3. Ratsathome 3xAM
4. Parrot 3XAM, 3XLM, 4XDM
5 brenmurph (Kildare) 1 of each at least (4 bags)
6. Bogwoppit 1xAM

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Rats on December 09, 2013, 07:11:53 PM

1. Covey 3xAM, 1xSM
2. AJ_rowley - Garden County Brewers - 2xAM 1xLM 1xSM
3. Ratsathome - North County Brewers - 3xAM
4. Parrot 3XAM, 3XLM, 4XDM
5 brenmurph 1 of each at least (4 bags), may take more depending on when it goes ahead.
6. Bogwoppit 1xAM

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: brenmurph on December 09, 2013, 09:15:01 PM

1. Covey 3xAM, 1xSM
2. AJ_rowley - Garden County Brewers - 2xAM 1xLM 1xSM
3. Ratsathome - North County Brewers - 3xAM
4. Parrot 3XAM, 3XLM, 4XDM
5 brenmurph ( Kildare) 1 of each at least (4 bags),
6. Bogwoppit 1xAM

Corrected entry 5: lads please copy the latest list :) not old ones, up to date info goes missing.

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Bogwoppit on December 10, 2013, 11:15:00 AM

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Post by: eanna on December 10, 2013, 04:08:54 PM

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: nigel_c on December 10, 2013, 04:27:37 PM

1. Covey 3xAM, 1xSM
2. AJ_rowley - Garden County Brewers - 2xAM 1xLM 1xSM
3. Ratsathome - North County Brewers - 3xAM
4. Parrot 3XAM, 3XLM, 4XDM
5 brenmurph ( Kildare) 1 of each at least (4 bags),
6. Bogwoppit - Kildare - 1xAM
7. Eanna - Galway 1xAM, 1xLM
8. Nigel_c - NCB - 4xAM 2xLM

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Parrot on December 10, 2013, 06:45:14 PM

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: AJ_Rowley on December 14, 2013, 09:28:30 AM

Is this all that is interested? Is it enough or is there a minimum?

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: cronan on December 14, 2013, 09:48:48 AM

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: brewerhooer on December 14, 2013, 09:58:07 AM

1. Covey 3xAM, 1xSM
2. AJ_rowley - Garden County Brewers - 2xAM 1xLM 1xSM
3. Ratsathome - North County Brewers - 3xAM
4. Parrot - Wexford - 3XAM, 3XLM, 4XDM
5 brenmurph ( Kildare) 1 of each at least (4 bags),
6. Bogwoppit - Kildare - 1xAM
7. Eanna - Galway 1xAM, 1xLM
8. Nigel_c - NCB - 4xAM 2xLM
9. Cronan - 3xAM
10. Brewerhooer - Capital Brewers - 2xAM 2xLM 2XSM

I'm interested in a few bags of this if you have the numbers!

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: IsMise on December 18, 2013, 09:10:34 PM

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: mr hoppy on December 18, 2013, 09:58:15 PM

1. Covey 3xAM, 1xSM
2. AJ_rowley - Garden County Brewers - 2xAM 1xLM 1xSM
3. Ratsathome - North County Brewers - 3xAM
4. Parrot - Wexford - 3XAM, 3XLM, 4XDM
5 brenmurph ( Kildare) 1 of each at least (4 bags),
6. Bogwoppit - Kildare - 1xAM
7. Eanna - Galway 1xAM, 1xLM
8. Nigel_c - NCB - 4xAM 2xLM
9. Cronan - 3xAM
10. Brewerhooer - Capital Brewers - 2xAM 2xLM 2XSM
11. Is Mise - Liffey Brewers - 2xAM, 1XSM, 1xLM
12. mr happy - Rebel Brewers - 1xAM

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Parrot on January 10, 2014, 08:35:57 AM

How about we get this one moving again?

I got a new mill, my Oxy setup will arrive soon and I'll be needing malt to make it all work.

Who's driving this train?

P 8)

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: AJ_Rowley on January 10, 2014, 08:49:17 AM

1. Covey 3xAM, 1xSM
2. AJ_rowley - Garden County Brewers - 1xAM 3xLM 1xSM
3. Ratsathome - North County Brewers - 3xAM
4. Parrot - Wexford - 3XAM, 3XLM, 4XDM
5 brenmurph ( Kildare) 1 of each at least (4 bags),
6. Bogwoppit - Kildare - 1xAM
7. Eanna - Galway 1xAM, 1xLM
8. Nigel_c - NCB - 4xAM 2xLM
9. Cronan - 3xAM
10. Brewerhooer - Capital Brewers - 2xAM 2xLM 2XSM
11. Is Mise - Liffey Brewers - 2xAM, 1XSM, 1xLM
12. mr happy - Rebel Brewers - 1xAM

Title: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Ciderhead on January 10, 2014, 09:07:38 AM

Quote from: Parrot on January 10, 2014, 08:35:57 AM

Who's driving this train?

All amateur train drivers here no training required and it's usually the person that asks the question.

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: johnrm on January 10, 2014, 11:02:17 AM

+1, I don't have a license. ???

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Parrot on January 10, 2014, 05:20:21 PM

I'd be all over this like a rash but I don't want anyone else catching it - it's real itchy ??? ;
Wexford isn't central to the members in this GB, especially the hovel in the ditch where I live ::)
It's almost 50 bags of grain and I've nowhere to store that much safely :-\
I'm too junior to have such high level of responsibility thrust on me :(
Quite apart from anything else, I'm chicken :'(
Back to you Covey ;)

P 8)

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Ciderhead on January 10, 2014, 05:56:53 PM

This is like spin the bottle.

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Covey on January 10, 2014, 07:03:17 PM

;) i can manage to look after the Conaught consigment. I should be down in cork in a month or so.

Anyone have a Van/lorry/Train/Horse and Cart.......wife with a gud back

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: AJ_Rowley on January 10, 2014, 07:14:51 PM

I have fiat multipla that the back seats can come out. I'm not sure of how much load it can carry though. And depending on on work but I'm sure I could try and sort something out.

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Covey on January 10, 2014, 07:33:26 PM

Where are you AJ, you might be able to sort out a few people

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: AJ_Rowley on January 10, 2014, 07:37:53 PM

Bray

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Shanna on January 10, 2014, 08:53:39 PM

Quote from: Parrot on January 10, 2014, 05:20:21 PM
I'd be all over this like a rash but I don't want anyone else catching it - it's real itchy ??? ;
Wexford isn't central to the members in this GB, especially the hovel in the ditch where I live ::)
It's almost 50 bags of grain and I've nowhere to store that much safely :-\
I'm too junior to have such high level of responsibility thrust on me :(
Quite apart from anything else, I'm chicken :'(
Back to you Covey ;)

P 8)

Reading this thread with a bit of bemusement. This kind of group buy will realistically only work by arranging the pickup and distribution from the supplier in a single go. Everybody who steps forward and does the logistics for a group buy exposes themselves themselves to things that go wrong. Nobody in there right mind does this for glory they do it out of a shared sense of solidarity with others involved in the group. Johnrm & CH will be beatified at some point in the future for (hopefully long in the future :) ) for their work in group buys. Previous efforts worked because someone stepped forward with a van and volunteered to drive to Cork & collect & distribute the grain to 5 different locations. Storage of the entire amount should not be required here. The model in the past was to move it on to other points as close as possible to where others can collect. Last gb grain went from Cork, Tipp, laois, kildare, Dublin and orders for different people were dropped along the way. Others drive to those points to collect grain for members of their clubs.

This kind of thing only works if people involved are c willing to make pitch in and make an active contribution. Case in point was last Gb I collected & stored grain for myself & other SD members. Prior experience should not n preclude somebody from taking the lead as otherwise how anybody gain experience :)

Shanna

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Shanna on January 10, 2014, 09:09:54 PM

Quote from: iTube on January 10, 2014, 09:01:00 PM
Short memory there Declan! As someone who has probably done more group buys than anyone else, all I can is where there's a will there's a way. Anyone can do one if they want to enough.

No disrespect intended "your tubeness", only mentioned two previous characters as examples. I doff digital cap to your own involvement. I would hope my own modest involvement in group buys would put me up with any other average member of the club.

I was trying to make the same point as yourself but maybe not as succinctly.

Shanna

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Garry on January 10, 2014, 09:22:15 PM

MCI are fairly flexible. The last MCI group buy, johnrm collected the Cork/Waterford malt one day, then the following day myself and alealex collected the rest.

@Covey, I can help you out within reason! I reckon I could get 16 - 17 bags into my car without burning the clutch out of her! I can store these in my garage (you know where I am) until someone else can collect? So if I met you in MCI, we could probably collect the whole load between us? Let me know what you think.

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: johnrm on January 11, 2014, 12:58:18 AM

Rule of thumb for weights...
An average person is 75kg or 3 full sacks.
A family car will take driver plus 4 bodies, and one in the boot, 2 at a push weight wise. That's 18sacks safely.

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Parrot on January 11, 2014, 09:15:32 AM

Jeeees! You guys take yourselves waayy too seriously....especially after sniffing a beer or two.

I was only being semi-serious ::)

On the assumption that MCI, with a proper bagging line, will be doing 25kg bags, the 49 bags indicated on the interest list makes for some serious weight!!!!!

I only have a Nissan Almera but I'm happy to pick up what ever I can carry from Cork but it's not possible to fit 49 X 25kg bags into an Almera and it wouldn't work out logistically either. I've no problem doing Cork, Waterford, Wexford & Wicklow, subject to actual weight, but that's my limit ::)

Anyway, when I asked " Who's driving this train", I was referring to who has contact with MCI and who is organising collection of monies and payment to MCI and that part won't be me 'cause I'm sober ::)

P 8)

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: AJ_Rowley on January 11, 2014, 09:37:15 AM

I has a quick look online and priced a van for 70 euro for a day. As I said if that us a viable option for the Leinster lads I'm sure we could sort something out.

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: AJ_Rowley on January 11, 2014, 09:39:58 AM

The only thing is I have f-all storage here so would need to organize to have drop off points on the day if collection.

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: lordstilton on January 11, 2014, 10:47:54 AM

I havn't pulled my weight yet on group buys. I only have a car but I can take what I can fit in. I can drop off in Dublin on the way back to Mullingar. I should be able to organise so storage in Palmerstown too

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: johnrm on January 11, 2014, 11:04:50 AM

Per my last communication...
MCI are supposed to be live end January. This is Irish so allow another couple of weeks.
They are bagging by hand for now.
They are however using freight forwarders with tail lifts on a small scale. (I imagine that means to the likes of us.)
They might be able to organise a pallet drop.
Pick somewhere that is central, accessible and vermin free, drop there. Buyers ferry from here rather than exercising your Micras suspension between Cork and Dublin.

The Galway run has a channel, just to organise the timing to coincide with bagging.
Cork - One sack Andrew? That would sling over the crossbar of your bike!

As for finance, I put my cash into it, people paid the club including transit cost, I invoiced the club and was reimbursed less my cut. Alex was covered for his distribution costs (Diesel, Tolls, probably a few Jumbo rolls too!)
I made nothing, the club made a few quid.

I have loads of grain (actually, no Crystal :-( ) so I am pretty good for now.

MCI: http://www.maltingcompany.ie/

Chris is the chap there, I have just emailed him and I will report back.
I have a lot on right now so its up to you to go down the rabbit hole.

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: lordstilton on January 11, 2014, 11:09:58 AM

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: mr hoppy on January 11, 2014, 11:28:53 AM

I was going to ask you about that this evening johnrm.

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: johnrm on January 11, 2014, 12:43:12 PM

The loan of the bicycle? ;)

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: mr hoppy on January 11, 2014, 01:08:17 PM

funny guy.

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: barkar on January 23, 2014, 03:23:34 PM

Quote from: lordstilton on January 11, 2014, 11:09:58 AM
1. Covey 3xAM, 1xSM
2. AJ_rowley - Garden County Brewers - 1xAM 3xLM 1xSM
3. Ratsathome - North County Brewers - 3xAM
4. Parrot - Wexford - 3XAM, 3XLM, 4XDM
5 brenmurph ( Kildare) 1 of each at least (4 bags),
6. Bogwoppit - Kildare - 1xAM
7. Eanna - Galway 1xAM, 1xLM
8. Nigel_c - NCB - 4xAM 2xLM
9. Cronan - 3xAM
10. Brewerhooer - Capital Brewers - 2xAM 2xLM 2XSM
11. Is Mise - Liffey Brewers - 2xAM, 1XSM, 1xLM
12. mr happy - Rebel Brewers - 1xAM
13. Lordstilton - Liffey Brewers - 1xAM, 1xLM
14. Barkar- Galway HBC - 2* AM 2*SM

I suppose these are 12 kg bags ? Johnrm?

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Ciderhead on January 23, 2014, 03:25:45 PM

Bagging line imminent, 25kgs will probably be format.

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Kieran the Human on January 23, 2014, 03:32:45 PM

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: barkar on January 23, 2014, 03:39:09 PM

Quote from: CH on January 23, 2014, 03:25:45 PM
Bagging line imminent, 25kgs will probably be format.

Ill be changin the order so ! thanks CH

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: brenmurph on January 23, 2014, 04:16:03 PM

1. Covey 3xAM, 1xSM
2. AJ_rowley - Garden County Brewers - 1xAM 3xLM 1xSM
3. Ratsathome - North County Brewers - 3xAM
4. Parrot - Wexford - 3XAM, 3XLM, 4XDM
5 brenmurph ( Kildare) 1 of each at least (4 bags x 25kg),
6. Bogwoppit - Kildare - 1xAM
7. Eanna - Galway 1xAM, 1xLM
8. Nigel_c - NCB - 4xAM 2xLM
9. Cronan - 3xAM
10. Brewerhooer - Capital Brewers - 2xAM 2xLM 2XSM
11. Is Mise - Liffey Brewers - 2xAM, 1XSM, 1xLM
12. mr happy - Rebel Brewers - 1xAM
13. Lordstilton - Liffey Brewers - 1xAM, 1xLM
14. Beer Baron - 2xAM

Brenmurph modified order to 4 x 25kg bgs

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Covey on January 23, 2014, 06:06:26 PM

1. Covey 3xAM,
2. AJ_rowley - Garden County Brewers - 1xAM 3xLM 1xSM
3. Ratsathome - North County Brewers - 3xAM
4. Parrot - Wexford - 3XAM, 3XLM, 4XDM
5 brenmurph ( Kildare) 1 of each at least (4 bags x 25kg),
6. Bogwoppit - Kildare - 1xAM
7. Eanna - Galway 1xAM, 1xLM
8. Nigel_c - NCB - 4xAM 2xLM
9. Cronan - 3xAM
10. Brewerhooer - Capital Brewers - 2xAM 2xLM 2XSM
11. Is Mise - Liffey Brewers - 2xAM, 1XSM, 1xLM
12. mr happy - Rebel Brewers - 1xAM
13. Lordstilton - Liffey Brewers - 1xAM, 1xLM
14. Beer Baron - 2xAM

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: IsMise on January 23, 2014, 09:29:03 PM

Quote from: brenmurph on January 23, 2014, 04:16:03 PM
1. Covey 3xAM, 1xSM
2. AJ_rowley - Garden County Brewers - 1xAM 3xLM 1xSM
3. Ratsathome - North County Brewers - 3xAM
4. Parrot - Wexford - 3XAM, 3XLM, 4XDM
5 brenmurph ( Kildare) 1 of each at least (4 bags x 25kg),
6. Bogwoppit - Kildare - 1xAM
7. Eanna - Galway 1xAM, 1xLM
8. Nigel_c - NCB - 4xAM 2xLM
9. Cronan - 3xAM
10. Brewerhooer - Capital Brewers - 2xAM 2xLM 2XSM
11. Is Mise - Liffey Brewers - 1xAM, 1XSM, 1xLM
12. mr happy - Rebel Brewers - 1xAM
13. Lordstilton - Liffey Brewers - 1xAM, 1xLM
14. Beer Baron - 2xAM

Thought these were 10/12kgs bags, so I've reduced mine to 3 bags total, one each of ale, stout, and lager.... happy days :P

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: MisterBurns on January 23, 2014, 09:38:34 PM

1. Covey 3xAM, 1xSM
2. AJ_rowley - Garden County Brewers - 1xAM 3xLM 1xSM
3. Ratsathome - North County Brewers - 3xAM
4. Parrot - Wexford - 3XAM, 3XLM, 4XDM
5 brenmurph ( Kildare) 1 of each at least (4 bags x 25kg),
6. Bogwoppit - Kildare - 1xAM
7. Eanna - Galway 1xAM, 1xLM
8. Nigel_c - NCB - 4xAM 2xLM
9. Cronan - 3xAM
10. Brewerhooer - Capital Brewers - 2xAM 2xLM 2XSM
11. Is Mise - Liffey Brewers - 1xAM, 1XSM, 1xLM
12. mr happy - Rebel Brewers - 1xAM
13. Lordstilton - Liffey Brewers - 1xAM, 1xLM
14. Beer Baron - 2xAM
15. MisterBurns - Galway - 1xAM, 1xLM, 1xSM, 1xDM

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Rats on January 24, 2014, 08:28:06 AM

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: barkar on January 24, 2014, 09:20:19 PM

1. Covey 3xAM, 1xSM
2. AJ_rowley - Garden County Brewers - 1xAM 3xLM 1xSM
3. Parrot - Wexford - 3XAM, 3XLM, 4XDM
4 brenmurph ( Kildare) 1 of each at least (4 bags x 25kg),
5. Bogwoppit - Kildare - 1xAM
6. Eanna - Galway 1xAM, 1xLM
7. Nigel_c - NCB - 4xAM 2xLM
8. Cronan - 3xAM
9. Brewerhooer - Capital Brewers - 2xAM 2xLM 2XSM
10. Is Mise - Liffey Brewers - 1xAM, 1XSM, 1xLM
11. mr happy - Rebel Brewers - 1xAM
12. Lordstilton - Liffey Brewers - 1xAM, 1xLM
13. Beer Baron - 2xAM
14. MisterBurns - Galway - 1xAM, 1xLM, 1xSM, 1xDM
15 . Barkar Galway 2 am 1sm

I'll put my name on again :), name got chucked as well on another gb , maybe we should consider looking at another method of keeping lists on group buys as a standard on the forum, its hard to keep the list up to date and completely accurate

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: johnrm on January 24, 2014, 09:31:39 PM

This happens, so she says.

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: St. Fursey on January 27, 2014, 05:03:30 AM

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: johnrm on January 27, 2014, 11:38:58 PM

Only 2 more weeks to the bagging line. Maybe ;-).

Title: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Ciderhead on January 28, 2014, 12:35:56 AM

http://youtu.be/2q9_ZEtuTR8

Unfortunately this buy will probably go the same way as the Hop Wish list :(

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Will_D on January 28, 2014, 10:59:18 AM

+1 CH!

The way foreward is for the regions to order for themselves and a few guests nearest to them.

Then either get MCI to deliver it on a pallet or whatever OR one of the group drive down to pick it up!

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: johnrm on January 28, 2014, 11:15:34 AM

I'm not going to read the 5 pages to see who's st the helm, but I'll help by carving it up roughly by region.
I'm not sure locations of 2 bods on the list, the rest I have grouped as I either know where they are, or they have stated this.

You will need the following to progress this...
How many drops.
Where to drop.
Collection schedule.
Price per pallet drop.

Galway/Mayo
1. Covey 3xAM, 1xSM
6. Eanna - Galway 1xAM, 1xLM
14. MisterBurns - Galway - 1xAM, 1xLM, 1xSM, 1xDM
15 . Barkar Galway 2 am 1sm
16. St. Fursey - Galway - 2xAM, 1xSM

Wicklow/Wexford
2. AJ_rowley - Garden County Brewers - 1xAM 3xLM 1xSM
3. Parrot - Wexford - 3XAM, 3XLM, 4XDM

Dublin/Kildare
4 brenmurph ( Kildare) 1 of each at least (4 bags x 25kg),
5. Bogwoppit - Kildare - 1xAM
9. Brewerhooer - Capital Brewers - 2xAM 2xLM 2XSM
10. Is Mise - Liffey Brewers - 1xAM, 1XSM, 1xLM
12. Lordstilton - Liffey Brewers - 1xAM, 1xLM

Cork/Waterford
11. mr happy - Rebel Brewers - 1xAM
13. Beer Baron - 2xAM

Unknown
7. Nigel_c - NCB - 4xAM 2xLM
8. Cronan - 3xAM

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: nigel_c on January 28, 2014, 11:46:24 AM

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: AJ_Rowley on January 28, 2014, 11:48:44 AM

I'm not going to read the 5 pages to see who's st the helm, but I'll help by carving it up roughly by region.
I'm not sure locations of 2 bods on the list, the rest I have grouped as I either know where they are, or they have stated this.

You will need the following to progress this...
How many drops.
Where to drop.
Collection schedule.
Price per pallet drop.

Galway/Mayo
1. Covey 3xAM, 1xSM
6. Eanna - Galway 1xAM, 1xLM
14. MisterBurns - Galway - 1xAM, 1xLM, 1xSM, 1xDM
15 . Barkar Galway 2 am 1sm
16. St. Fursey - Galway - 2xAM, 1xSM

Wicklow/Wexford
3. Parrot - Wexford - 3XAM, 3XLM, 4XDM

Dublin/Kildare
4 brenmurph ( Kildare) 1 of each at least (4 bags x 25kg),
5. Bogwoppit - Kildare - 1xAM
9. Brewerhooer - Capital Brewers - 2xAM 2xLM 2XSM
10. Is Mise - Liffey Brewers - 1xAM, 1XSM, 1xLM
12. Lordstilton - Liffey Brewers - 1xAM, 1xLM

Cork/Waterford
11. mr happy - Rebel Brewers - 1xAM
13. Beer Baron - 2xAM

Unknown
8. Cronan - 3xAM

Probably going to do the same as I have just got myself a sack of grain.

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: brenmurph on January 28, 2014, 11:51:01 AM

k&L cork 74 (including VAT) euros pallet door to door to Dublin or kildare surely theres a demand for a pallet up dublin direction considering its nearly half price already and <2 euros a bag for delivery surely its do-able? It probable cost more than this for diesel on the alealex MCI run?

Ive just paid 34 euros for 25 KG bag and at the rate I go through grain it adding 30% to my brewing costs compared to the last MCI BUY. Ive no problem with The homebrew shops charging 34-50 euros a bag, after all they are in business and charge a profit, however they have a very decent mark up on it which makes it significantly more expensive that buying in bulk from MCI and distributing ourselves.

Im surprised that there isnt such demand for malt that we are not buying a GB every month by delivery for 74 euros..

what if we had a sealed (mouse and moisture free) grain store in Kildare where we stored a basic stock of MCI malts and topped up with a pallet as required. There must be dozens of ye passing my door every week; distribution in this scenario should be simple.

How many 25 kg bags on a pallet?

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: johnrm on January 28, 2014, 11:55:57 AM

The Hobbitses are dropping like flies now Precious ;)

It is a tricky one.
I'm amazed there are so few on here with vans.

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Garry on January 28, 2014, 12:06:18 PM

Quote from: johnrm on January 28, 2014, 11:55:57 AM
I'm amazed there are so few on here with vans.

Face it, most if us are desk jockeys :P

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: cronan on January 28, 2014, 02:04:22 PM

I am based outside Dundalk so Dublin is the closest to me.

Galway/Mayo
1. Covey 3xAM, 1xSM
6. Eanna - Galway 1xAM, 1xLM
14. MisterBurns - Galway - 1xAM, 1xLM, 1xSM, 1xDM
15 . Barkar Galway 2 am 1sm
16. St. Fursey - Galway - 2xAM, 1xSM

Wicklow/Wexford
3. Parrot - Wexford - 3XAM, 3XLM, 4XDM

Dublin/Kildare
4 brenmurph ( Kildare) 1 of each at least (4 bags x 25kg),
5. Bogwoppit - Kildare - 1xAM
9. Brewerhooer - Capital Brewers - 2xAM 2xLM 2XSM
10. Is Mise - Liffey Brewers - 1xAM, 1XSM, 1xLM
12. Lordstilton - Liffey Brewers - 1xAM, 1xLM
8. Cronan - 3xAM - Dundalk

Cork/Waterford
11. mr happy - Rebel Brewers - 1xAM
13. Beer Baron - 2xAM

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: johnrm on January 28, 2014, 04:02:35 PM

Hi cronan,
Its always good to fill in any blanks, I have edited your post for you. ;)

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Parrot on January 28, 2014, 07:50:19 PM

I am based outside Dundalk so Dublin is the closest to me.

Galway/Mayo
1. Covey 3xAM, 1xSM
6. Eanna - Galway 1xAM, 1xLM
14. MisterBurns - Galway - 1xAM, 1xLM, 1xSM, 1xDM
15 . Barkar Galway 2 am 1sm
16. St. Fursey - Galway - 2xAM, 1xSM

Dublin/Kildare
4 brenmurph ( Kildare) 1 of each at least (4 bags x 25kg),
5. Bogwoppit - Kildare - 1xAM
9. Brewerhooer - Capital Brewers - 2xAM 2xLM 2XSM
10. Is Mise - Liffey Brewers - 1xAM, 1XSM, 1xLM
12. Lordstilton - Liffey Brewers - 1xAM, 1xLM
8. Cronan - 3xAM - Dundalk

Cork/Waterford
11. mr happy - Rebel Brewers - 1xAM
13. Beer Baron - 2xAM

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: johnrm on January 28, 2014, 08:30:58 PM

@Parrot, you've just removed yourself from the list.

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Covey on January 29, 2014, 12:03:04 PM

Is there any one in Galway that could hold a pallet until distributed?

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: barkar on January 29, 2014, 03:15:38 PM

Quote from: Covey on January 29, 2014, 12:03:04 PM
Is there any one in Galway that could hold a pallet until distributed?

Maybe HBW :P,

I have a full 8*12 wooden shed and couldnt guarantee the malt being kept dry - the dampness on everything is shocking - to be fair my house is out in connemara & wouldnt be easy for onward distibution.

How many bags are we talking about for Galway?

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Ciderhead on January 29, 2014, 06:27:17 PM

HBW now would be taking the ...

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: brenmurph on January 29, 2014, 06:54:25 PM

actually Im wondering why they dont buy and retail MCI malt and keep something in Ireland. Anyone find anything wrong with irish grown and malted barley? Shocking amount of improted barley coming into Ireland. very good friend of mine is a major supplier of batrley to Minch in Athy. Grown in athy and malted in Athy 10 minutes up the road.

They wont sell us small amounts e.g 1 tonne which is a shame while we import bairds and others of possibly lesser quality than the grain produced on our doorstep.

Love to Know if the Irish retailers of Homebrew will / would sell irish malted grain? from either minch athy or MCI cork?

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Ciderhead on January 29, 2014, 07:02:22 PM

Tbh Bren, I'm not sure the margin would be in it for them v's scale economics of UK producers :(

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Eoin on January 29, 2014, 07:13:16 PM

Wasn't one of them approaching MCI? Or did I dream that?

Sent from my HTC One

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: brenmurph on January 29, 2014, 07:17:46 PM

@ CH. Find that hard to believe the new dutch crowd that owns Minch are one of the biggest producers in europe and the grain is goin in to the maltings at peanut prices we are paying 1.50 a kilo and the farmer is gettin 5 cent or thereabouts so there tons of room for dealing with Irish maltsters im sure of that. . and add 150 at sterling for shipping per pallet thats another few quid a bag bargaining power

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: brenmurph on January 29, 2014, 07:20:30 PM

and btw,
if we as a small purchaser of a pallet now and then can buy at 20 quid for 25 kg of malt and the home brew suppliers are sellin for 35 surely theres something wrong, are they not happy with 17 quid profit +

SURELY

Title: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Ciderhead on January 29, 2014, 07:46:05 PM

The advantage uk Maltsters have are the massive grain farms from the wash down to Portsmouth supplying them, the scale and tonnage they process, eg the one that begins with b is 8 times bigger than cork and critically and this is the major difference their energy costs
They issue the farmers with the seed and pay them minimum fees for the harvest subject to quality
On the logistics a 1mt pallet is 55 to bring in from the Uk on a full truck

Same system operates here but much smaller scale and although product quality is better economics are not.
Warm feeling for Irish grain is great, and that's why MCI will do really well in the US Homebrew market with their new bagging line.
At present supplying 2 major converters doesn't pay the bills for the volume they produce and MCI in my books are taking the correct approach and differentiating themselves with above median pricing but better quality which will be better for Micros and Homebrewers.

Retail grain currently in HBC is 33 and those sorts of margins are pretty normal for retail.

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: brenmurph on January 29, 2014, 07:50:16 PM

U MISSED THE POINT TUBE
I know how to run a business and all that goes with it.

Cider said uk producers are too big to compete with. one of the biggest producers in europe is on my doorstep and our barley is at the very least as good as any other in the world.

Leaving aside that the HB shops are in business and have a mark up to cover costs, wages and profit for the business My point is how can the Irish HB shops not afford to buy Irish. Forget the costs and vat.

retail say 35 a bag for standard malt in HB shop. ( im in no way saying they are charging too much)

20 quid retail we can buy from MCI I had a quote from Minch not long back a riduculously low bulk price but we have to buy min 5 tonne on a loose truck load.

So unless the HB shops are buyin for 8-10 euros a bag in UK they can easily Buy irish which was my point. And if anyone takes the initiave and talks about 5- 10 tonne loads we would be using Irish malt that is costing less than 50 cent a kg inc VAT

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Parrot on January 29, 2014, 07:53:33 PM

Quote from: johnrm on January 28, 2014, 08:30:58 PM
@Parrot, you've just removed yourself from the list.

That I did :)

P 8)

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: brenmurph on January 29, 2014, 07:57:55 PM

agree cider, I am very familiar with the maltings workings from the farmer to the malting gate.

MCI are small Minch are not.
Its crazy, I was just tallking to My mate ( very big Athy grain farmer). He has been supplying Hundreds of tonnes 2013 for scottish distileries maltings as well as minch in athy.
And we are buyin in english stuff... I just think it dosnt make environmental sense that so much toing and froing.. be lovely to see us and all the Craft brewers ( u see my point isnt about our measly few homebrew tonnes) start using Irish malt.. Im aware some do and many dont

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: brenmurph on January 29, 2014, 08:11:52 PM

well fair Flecks to MCI wen dey get goin, hope they make a fortune from their bagging lines :) I for one will be buying our own malt if and when I can.

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Ciderhead on January 29, 2014, 08:18:01 PM

You are now #2 in the queue ;)

Title: Re: MCI Malt Group buy Interest List
Post by: Hop Bomb on January 29, 2014, 09:07:50 PM

Quote from: Tubomyces on January 29, 2014, 08:06:04 PM
There are two very simple reasons: 25Kg bags and they'll mill the malt aswell.

Yip. Not everyone has a silo or a mill.

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