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Title: Some changes
Post by: Rats on December 14, 2013, 04:51:03 PM
I had a gas system but decided to change over to electric.
Here are some pics of the new setup and my temporary control box.
Still waiting for some gadgets to come but with xmas and new year it might take some time  :(
A pic of my control panel(how it will look)
Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: donnchadhc on December 14, 2013, 05:13:24 PM
Totally jealous! Any chance if a pic of the entire setup?
Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: Rats on December 14, 2013, 05:28:20 PM
@ Tube - ebay
The control box is not connected to the brewery yet.
Will update as soon as everything is up and running.

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Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: Jacob on December 17, 2013, 11:15:52 PM
Where are you going to get your immersion heaters from?
Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: Rats on December 18, 2013, 08:07:49 AM
Quote from: Jacob on December 17, 2013, 11:15:52 PM
Where are you going to get your immersion heaters from?
I got mine from here http://www.ebay.ie/itm/160832694766?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 (http://www.ebay.ie/itm/160832694766?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649)
2.5kw for HLT and 3kw for BK
Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: Jacob on December 18, 2013, 08:33:11 AM
Quote from: ratsathome on December 18, 2013, 08:07:49 AM
I got mine from here http://www.ebay.ie/itm/160832694766?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 (http://www.ebay.ie/itm/160832694766?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649)
2.5kw for HLT and 3kw for BK
Is 3kw enough to bring ~45-50l to boil?
Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: Rats on December 18, 2013, 08:50:22 AM
@ Jacob will have to see. Going to do a water run today.

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Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: Jacob on December 18, 2013, 09:06:40 AM
Quote from: ratsathome on December 18, 2013, 08:50:22 AM
@ Jacob will have to see. Going to do a water run today.
Cool. Please keep me posted :)
Also, are you going to put that element into your MT or under the bottom if it?
Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: Rats on December 18, 2013, 09:20:58 AM
It's inside at the bottom. Drilled a 40mm hole at the bottom.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/18/y9ahahyq.jpg)

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Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: Jacob on December 18, 2013, 09:31:31 AM
Thanks for the pic! It's all clear now.
Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: ColMack on December 18, 2013, 03:23:44 PM
Quote from: ratsathome on December 18, 2013, 09:20:58 AM
It's inside at the bottom. Drilled a 40mm hole at the bottom.


So you got sorted for a hole saw then?  I was wondering when you were going to come over to collect my one.
Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: Rats on December 18, 2013, 03:52:01 PM
Quote from: ColMack on December 18, 2013, 03:23:44 PM
So you got sorted for a hole saw then?  I was wondering when you were going to come over to collect my one.
Bought one as I need it for a few other jobs as well.
Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: Rats on December 18, 2013, 03:58:14 PM
Quote from: Jacob on December 18, 2013, 08:33:11 AM
Is 3kw enough to bring ~45-50l to boil?
Ok did some tests today.
To bring 30L of water from 10°C to 74°C with the 2.5kw it took 65 min.
Transfer to BK (2hours later) Temp of water in BK was 44°C.
From 44°C to rolling boil took 68 min with the 3kw.
The shed was a constant 11°C inside.
Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: DEMPSEY on December 18, 2013, 04:20:21 PM
Insulation will help to shorten the time to reach boil and also protect the little mountain range. (the Andies ;))
Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: Jacob on December 18, 2013, 04:34:32 PM
 ??? over an hour  ???
Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: nigel_c on December 18, 2013, 04:46:06 PM
Won't be a quick brew day.
Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: Rats on December 18, 2013, 04:46:31 PM
Quote from: DEMPSEY on December 18, 2013, 04:20:21 PM
Insulation will help to shorten the time to reach boil and also protect the little mountain range. (the Andies ;))
Might clad then the same as my MT
Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: Rats on December 18, 2013, 04:48:41 PM
Quote from: nigel_c on December 18, 2013, 04:46:06 PM
Won't be a quick brew day.
I have a lot of time on my brew days.(more time to sample my brews)
As a wise man once said: "You can't homebrew without a homebrew"
Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: Ciderhead on December 18, 2013, 08:09:34 PM
Quote from: ratsathome on December 18, 2013, 03:58:14 PM
Quote from: Jacob on December 18, 2013, 08:33:11 AM
Is 3kw enough to bring ~45-50l to boil?
Ok did some tests today.
To bring 30L of water from 10°C to 74°C with the 2.5kw it took 65 min.
Transfer to BK (2hours later) Temp of water in BK was 44°C.
From 44°C to rolling boil took 68 min with the 3kw.
The shed was a constant 11°C inside.

That is definitely a long time, would you consider a second element, my little argos elements are 2.2Kw and combined they take just over half that :(
Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: Jacob on December 18, 2013, 08:54:34 PM
That's exactly what I was thinking about. 2x2.2 for 15e...

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Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: Hop Bomb on December 18, 2013, 09:58:17 PM
Cladding it wont make much difference. You need a second element to get up to temp quicker. Then you can run with one element once yer there. I did a keggle conversion for a mate & we had to put a second element in after as one took way too long. That keggle was jacketed too. Same for my keggle HLT. Started with a single element & had to put a second one in as the time took to heat my second lot of sparge water made my mash time run over by 20 mins.
Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: Rats on January 31, 2014, 09:33:00 AM
Got the last of my switches yesterday and made a "mock up" control box to see how it will look.
Will probably get my control panel mid Feb.
I redid my brew stand as one unit(still need to be covered)
Looking at my last boil and all the suggestions I went and install another element(4.5kw) that will be running independently from the rest.(and yes the wires and CB can support 8kw)
Will post pics when it's all finished.
Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: Rats on February 25, 2014, 11:20:35 AM
So I received my panel and finished my control board.
Next will be the brew stand,mounting of the panel(still thinking of a fixed or swing arm)
and cladding of the kettles.
Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: Ciderhead on February 25, 2014, 12:58:24 PM
Bloody Hell 8), is it earthed? (http://www.messentools.com/images/emoticones/humor/www.MessenTools.com-emoticones-humor-077.gif) (http://www.messentools.com/en/msn-emoticon-details-and-download/id/2344/)

Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: Rats on February 25, 2014, 01:06:02 PM
Quote from: CH on February 25, 2014, 12:58:24 PM
Bloody Hell 8), is it earthed? (http://www.messentools.com/images/emoticones/humor/www.MessenTools.com-emoticones-humor-077.gif) (http://www.messentools.com/en/msn-emoticon-details-and-download/id/2344/)
Going to knock in an earth spike next to the shed and then earth the shed and everything else to it.
Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: Ciderhead on February 25, 2014, 01:07:27 PM
And for your next project

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6zseFi070E
Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: johnrm on February 25, 2014, 01:16:34 PM
Very impressive, however I foresee major domestics...

"Where the F*** did you put my keys! I need to get a brew on!"
Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: Rats on February 25, 2014, 01:19:03 PM
Quote from: johnrm on February 25, 2014, 01:16:34 PM
"Where the F*** did you put my keys! I need to get a brew on!"
Will have to wear them like a "dogtag" :D
Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: Rats on February 25, 2014, 01:19:49 PM
Quote from: CH on February 25, 2014, 01:07:27 PM
And for your next project

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6zseFi070E
Very nice some gr8 ideas for the lad.
Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: johnrm on February 25, 2014, 01:21:17 PM
Is the Board Acrylic etched?
Where did you get that done?
Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: Rats on February 25, 2014, 01:41:35 PM
Aluminum anodized 2.5mm.
Ordered it from Germany.
A small program you download and then you design your panel.
They can do full colour boards aswell.

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Title: Re: Some changes
Post by: johnrm on February 25, 2014, 02:08:21 PM
Peachy, I want.