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Title: How to darken a dunkelweizen
Post by: delzep on December 27, 2013, 11:41:13 PM
How would I go about designing a recipe for a traditional style dunkelweizen using traditional ingredients? Aren't most traditional recipes mostly just a wheat/munich split (with at least 50% wheat)? Nearly every recipe on the web uses some sort of crystal malt, but surely this can't be right? I tried a sample recipe in Beersmith using wheat and Munich and its nowhere near dark enough
Title: Re: How to darken a dunkelweizen
Post by: irish_goat on December 27, 2013, 11:47:40 PM
A small percentage of Carafa II or III would be traditional I think.
Title: Re: How to darken a dunkelweizen
Post by: delzep on December 27, 2013, 11:56:20 PM
I was thinking that, but are they relatively new malts? Are there any old style recipes out there for dunkelweizen?
Title: Re: How to darken a dunkelweizen
Post by: nigel_c on December 28, 2013, 12:04:07 AM
You could try a d
Title: Re: How to darken a dunkelweizen
Post by: irish_goat on December 28, 2013, 12:09:47 AM
I'd assume they would have traditionally used chocolate malt or something similar, it's kind of a predecessor to Carafa III isn't it? Maybe throw it in late in the mash so you get the colour but not much flavour.
Title: Re: How to darken a dunkelweizen
Post by: delzep on December 28, 2013, 12:20:18 AM
Quote from: nigel_c on December 28, 2013, 12:04:07 AM
You could try a d

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I could try the late mash addition yeah or a steep maybe in cold water?
Title: Re: How to darken a dunkelweizen
Post by: nigel_c on December 28, 2013, 04:31:17 PM
sorry that was sent from my phone and didn't send properly.
Was supposed to be decoction.
Pull a thin portion of the mash and boil it down to darken. might need to pull 2 or 3 lots to get to the desired color.