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Title: Fermented Cider Malic Acid?
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on January 12, 2014, 07:48:12 PM
Evenin all, picked up a bottle of Druids Cider this evening and had a butchers at the ingredients ... What the bloody hell is "Fermented Cider Malic Acid?" when it's at home?
Title: Fermented Cider Malic Acid?
Post by: Ciderhead on January 12, 2014, 08:01:07 PM
Druids cider Jesus, off work tomorrow?, it will be special brew next ;)
It's used to change ph commercially and gives it a tart sour flavour.
Title: Re: Fermented Cider Malic Acid?
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on January 12, 2014, 08:08:01 PM
Ah no, just bought the one out of curiosity.  Am on call for driving to Holles St as the missus is about to pop. :)
It's a lot nicer out of the bottle compared to how I remember them feckin cans tasted like ... Anyway what is Fermented Cider Malic Acid?
Title: Re: Fermented Cider Malic Acid?
Post by: Ciderhead on January 12, 2014, 08:18:26 PM
I was gonna say I thought you had other stuff on your plate.


Title: Re: Fermented Cider Malic Acid?
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on January 12, 2014, 08:21:47 PM
Yeah, playing the waiting game now, thought we were ready to go this time last week but all quiet on the western front now ....
Title: Re: Fermented Cider Malic Acid?
Post by: Ciderhead on January 12, 2014, 08:34:49 PM
First one takes an age, they pop like malteasers after that :)


Title: Re: Fermented Cider Malic Acid?
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on January 12, 2014, 08:36:09 PM
This is my 2nd!  :)
First one was 2 weeks early ... That was only 14 months ago
Title: Re: Fermented Cider Malic Acid?
Post by: Ciderhead on January 12, 2014, 08:41:56 PM
And you want to start brewing, forget it! Hehe, on the plus side plenty of Milton about the place :)


Title: Re: Fermented Cider Malic Acid?
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on January 12, 2014, 08:46:39 PM
I have to have some form of a hobby  :)
At least this one is based at home
Title: Re: Fermented Cider Malic Acid?
Post by: donnchadhc on January 12, 2014, 10:15:41 PM
When you ferment cider one of the acids produced is malic acid. During maturation a second ferment, "malo-latic fermentation", can occur. This converts the malic acid into lactic acid. This is preferable as latic acid has a "rounder" taste than malic acid. Malo-latic fermentation is not guaranteed so Cider agents try to kick it off artificially. Wine makers have been doing this for years for the same reasons.
Title: Re: Fermented Cider Malic Acid?
Post by: Will_D on January 13, 2014, 10:47:46 AM
To be clear: Malic Acid is already in the apple juice - named after malus the latin root for the apple genus.

The acid content of apples is composed of up to 90% Malic, up to 10% Quinic, and only 1 or 2% Citric.
Title: Re: Fermented Cider Malic Acid?
Post by: donnchadhc on January 13, 2014, 12:56:39 PM
Yeah, sorry, that's what I mean. The important bit is the malic to latic conversion
Title: Re: Fermented Cider Malic Acid?
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on January 13, 2014, 08:43:00 PM
cheers dudes!