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Title: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColmR on January 15, 2014, 09:15:36 AM
Hi NCBers,

Can you all PM me if you're interested in buying some hops?
Will put together a doc with variety suggestions, quantities etc..

Col
Title: Re: NCB Hop Buy
Post by: ColmR on January 16, 2014, 09:41:18 PM
Bump. Not much interest yet. This is not committing to buy, rather beginning a discussion.

Send a PM please :)
Title: Re: NCB Hop Buy
Post by: ColmR on January 28, 2014, 12:13:50 PM
Just a note...
Could do with more signups to be honest. Not sure we'll have enough people to use up a full 5kg of a single hop variety.
I've reached out to UK Supplier to get an idea of shipping etc.. Also asked about malt.

Will let y'all know soon... and if they're game, will start up the doc to get our basket together.

If you haven't done so already, send me a PM if you're interested :)
Title: Re: NCB Hop Buy
Post by: ColmR on January 28, 2014, 10:55:07 PM
All those who've sent me a PM (I think) have received a PM from me with a link to a Gooooogle doc. If you haven't received the link, please send me a PM.

A couple of ideas at this stage
1. Look for value. Will more likely get more takers.
2. Be flexible with your choice. If you can go for Pellets or Leaf, go with the majority.
3. Pellets preferable.
4. Look for substitute varieties - if you're the only one that wants a particular hop, change to one that others have gone for.
5. If we can only buy 3kg of a 5kg bale we may decide to offer the remainder to another club to divy out amongst its members.
6. This is open to a MALT buy as well.

Send me PMs with ideas or if you want to sign up. NCBers only ;)

Colm


Title: Re: NCB Hop Buy
Post by: nigel_c on January 29, 2014, 03:35:37 PM
We can talk at the next meet up or before about buying and splitting a sack of specialty malt and dividing it up in 5KG lots. I'm sue people would be interested in 5KG bags of crystal, amber , carapils and roasted maybe. Just an idea. That can be sorted out by one buyer to keep logistics and man hours down.

Fair play Colm taking charge here.
Title: Re: NCB Hop Buy
Post by: ColmR on January 29, 2014, 03:41:04 PM
Quote from: nigel_c on January 29, 2014, 03:35:37 PM
We can talk at the next meet up or before about buying and splitting a sack of specialty malt and dividing it up in 5KG lots. I'm sue people would be interested in 5KG bags of crystal, amber , carapils and roasted maybe. Just an idea. That can be sorted out by one buyer to keep logistics and man hours down.

Absolutely. At this stage this is a wish list. And don't forget with the malt, the min order will simply be 1 x 25kg bag. So if you only want half a bag, or quarter of a bag... stick that down. We'll see how it pans out.
I was thinking, as a group we may buy a bag of specialty malt for our next barrel brew :)



Title: Re: NCB Hop Buy
Post by: nigel_c on January 29, 2014, 03:50:18 PM
I like the way you think.
Title: Re: NCB Hop Buy
Post by: Cahalbrua on January 29, 2014, 05:23:54 PM
I'm up for lots of hops, grain wise properly just pils and pale.
C.
Title: Re: NCB Hop Buy
Post by: nigel_c on January 29, 2014, 06:03:42 PM
Then stick it on the google doc.
Title: Re: NCB Hop Buy
Post by: ColmR on January 30, 2014, 09:57:14 AM
Hi,

Only 5 people have updated the spread sheet so far. We've almost accounted for a full bale of Citra and Magnum.
Get your name down there!!!

PM with questions
Title: Re: NCB Hop Buy
Post by: Will_D on January 30, 2014, 11:08:46 AM
Have added some pellet and a sack of MO.

Looks like we up to about 400 kg of Malt!
Title: Re: NCB Hop Buy .... With Malt!!!
Post by: ColmR on January 31, 2014, 09:39:52 AM
***Update***

We're looking good folks. So far we've accounted for 4.5kg of both Citra and Magnum and as Will mentioned 16 bags of malt. Some other hops are almost there as well. So we could be buying 4 or 5 bales.

Two more of you fellas who have said they want in are yet to add to the spread sheet. They've been PM'd (it's that serious!).

Once all 10 people have updated the sheet we'll begin the real selection and confirmation process. We'll look at what the majority wants and may consider substitutions.

If you're a North County Brewer and haven't yet signed up but want to be part of this epic buy, send me a PM.

Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Partridge9 on January 31, 2014, 12:08:08 PM
Colm

I'd take some Citra and Magnum flowers (if available)

Sorry dont have access to google drive at work.

James
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColmR on February 11, 2014, 02:22:57 PM
Hi all, looks like everyone's got their requests in. So at tonight's meeting we'll make a call as to what we'll do.

It looks like we will be buying the following:
1 x 5kg Citra (Oversubscribed)
1 x 5kg Magnum (5kg accounted for)
1 x 5kg Centennial (almost there at 4.5kg)

I would also suggest that we decide on taking a 4th and 5th bale to share with another club (as in a straight sale of 2kg to Dublin City for example). Looking like Simcoe as the fourth and possibly Galaxy, but we'll decide later on. We may even change our minds altogether, or some of us might take up the rest of the bales. I'll bring a print out of the spread sheet.

From the malt side of things, we've put ourselves down for around 20 bags. But there are a couple of half bags down there. We'll chat about this as well.

Again, this will happen. There is definitely enough being bought here to warrant the delivery fee :)
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Hop Bomb on February 11, 2014, 02:32:56 PM
If ye need someone to take the rest of the centennial in that bale Id be on for it if they're pellets.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColmR on February 14, 2014, 04:58:42 PM
*****Big Update. I've added two final sheets on the spread sheet. If you've lost the link, PM me.

So... These are the order forms. There's one for hops and one for malt. Pricing is a good guess but not final.

The malts are all fine. But I've made some big boss decisions on the hops. Citra, Centennial and Magnum are all a lock in and accounted for. But we need to fulfill an order for the other hops on the list.
These are: Simcoe, Galaxy, Columbus, First Gold and Hallertau. All Hops are pellets.
I've shaded boxes in blue on the sheet showing my suggestion to some of you as substitutes, as some of your choices aren't available. I hope this is ok.

When we have all filled this in, we'll try to get a buyer for the remainder of the bails that aren't spoken for. Then we'll place the order.

If you've changed your mind at all, just change your choices. On the sheet, can you highlight your choice in yellow when you've confirmed commitment to buy? Can you all please PM me once you've confirmed your selections? Please do so before Tuesday next week so that we don't lose time on this.

I hope this is all ok with everyone.

Thanks,
Colm
Title: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Ciderhead on February 14, 2014, 05:26:29 PM
Would you not do this off forum?, the rest of us are like Pavlovs dog here ;)
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Will_D on February 14, 2014, 07:00:27 PM
Somehow I got dropped on the Malt! MO back in !

@CH: John, this probably the best way to manage GBs like this:

Public comments but a private google sheet!

Yet again NCB leads the way!

We will be tossing bones to the masses O0
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Ciderhead on February 14, 2014, 07:39:42 PM
It's alright we do our own and don't want any of your sloppy seconds :P
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColmR on February 16, 2014, 06:01:17 PM
Come on all.. get your orders in.

Again, can you highlight your hop selection in yellow please so I know you've updated and are happy to order.

Need takers for all those fancy hops...
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColmR on February 18, 2014, 10:38:42 AM
Hi again,

Still waiting for people to update the spread sheet. Can you all confirm your choices by highlighting in yellow your selection?
We're at 5kg of Centennial and 5kg of Citra. However dropped to 4.5kg of Magnum but I don't see that as a big deal considering how cheap Magnum is.

But this evening I will eliminate anything that has less than 3kg accounted for. Want to get this order done and dusted ASAP.

Thanks,
Colm
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Partridge9 on February 18, 2014, 11:20:45 AM
yea - any takers for the other half bag of munich - myself and Will are down for a 1/2 bag.

I have spare malt bags by the way.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: nigel_c on February 18, 2014, 11:21:54 AM
Fair play. Nearly there.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColmR on February 18, 2014, 12:19:31 PM
Quote from: Partridge9 on February 18, 2014, 11:20:45 AM
yea - any takers for the other half bag of munich - myself and Will are down for a 1/2 bag.

Yes, we're all good. :)
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColmR on February 19, 2014, 09:24:23 AM
OK, so I've now "officially" eliminated Columbus and Hallertau as we didn't have enough takers.
I've increased my Magnum order to ensure we got the 5kg, but happy to split it with someone else.

At the end of the day, I'll put the remainder of Simcoe, Galaxy and First Gold up for sale to the general public. So if you want some of these hops, put your name down ASAP.

Colm
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: nigel_c on February 19, 2014, 09:31:57 AM
Could someone edit the doc and put me down for 0.5 kg galaxy as well. Why not right.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Jacob on February 19, 2014, 10:01:17 AM
Quote from: nigel_c on February 19, 2014, 09:31:57 AM
Could someone edit the doc and put me down for 0.5 kg galaxy as well. Why not right.
Done.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: nigel_c on February 19, 2014, 10:04:32 AM
Cheers
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Partridge9 on February 19, 2014, 05:15:36 PM
Can't do my final update for a couple of hours , kids football
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColmR on February 19, 2014, 05:26:39 PM
Quote from: Partridge9 on February 19, 2014, 05:15:36 PM
Can't do my final update for a couple of hours , kids football

NP. Extended 'til midnight! ;)

We're looking good on the other three hops btw, may not need help consuming them all!
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: nigel_c on February 19, 2014, 08:48:23 PM
Any idea of a timeframe for this buy? What sort of order to delivery time are we talking?
Where will the malts & hops be dropped ?
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColmR on February 19, 2014, 10:04:22 PM
Quote from: nigel_c on February 19, 2014, 08:48:23 PM
Any idea of a timeframe for this buy? What sort of order to delivery time are we talking?
Where will the malts & hops be dropped ?

I suppose this is where the fun starts. As of this moment in time, we've got ourselves down to take 6 full bales of hops between us. Ridiculous...
I'll get the official quote from the vendor and work out exactly who owes what including charges etc. and we'll get the cash together and place the order.

So I do absolutely need suggestions about taking the cash (maybe can we use the club's facilities)? Can our reps find this out?
Also, if anyone has suggestions about taking delivery of the Pallet, that would be great. Ideally this would be in Dublin.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Ciderhead on February 19, 2014, 10:12:39 PM
Interesting point but would have thought using Club Bank account is really only there for the benefit of group buys or events that benefit the club funds in the form of a surplus which goes to the club or where the buys are are open to all members of the entire club.
Not sour grapes, honest.
Assembling funds for a new wickla barrel brew end of march, funds will be in account from everybody before we buy an ounce that way I know we are all committed to the cost.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColmR on February 19, 2014, 10:22:59 PM
Point taken John. But I don't see why not. I'll let our skilled, elected representatives approach the powers that be.

Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Ciderhead on February 19, 2014, 11:56:09 PM
Colm are you thinking like Credit Union esque? But they operate like a bank and charge interest?

I can understand its a lot of cash to be upfronting but if you all agree to pay and its being done on a local level to benefit local members not sure why you would need financial resources of the club.

I always felt the bank account was there to stop feckers running off with money or disappearing and a way of accumulating a nominal charge to benefit the members of the club be it competitions, education or even bjcp judges :)
I'm sure that will all be visable in the constitution which will be delivered in the next 6 months. 

Lots of these being done already, most not on the forum, Cara did a big grain one and no funding came from the club or funds were gained by the club.
   
Watching with interest though as I strongly believe yours is the group buy model going forward.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Rats on February 20, 2014, 09:12:04 AM
Quote from: CH on February 19, 2014, 11:56:09 PMnot sure why you would need financial resources of the club.
I don't think he wants the financial resources, I think he wants to use the account name only.
We pay the money into the account and then it's paid from there.
I'm sure I read somewhere that we could use the club account for group buys. It did not specified the everyone should be included.
It's still a group buy just on club level.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Will_D on February 20, 2014, 10:01:04 AM
Have started up a discussion in the members only area about paying for this sort of GB
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Will_D on February 20, 2014, 09:21:55 PM
Right So: (I love the Cork accent! - its very similar to the S.Wales accent)

It is less than 3 weeks to our next meet in the Boro.

We could agree to meet and pay (in cash) for whatever is going foreward (Malt or Hops ??)

If you can't make the date in person, arrange a cash transfer to someone you trust!

If thats not possible then maybe with luck we can put something through the club

What says ye all?
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Cahalbrua on February 20, 2014, 09:28:54 PM
What about or own ncb account.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Will_D on February 20, 2014, 09:39:38 PM
Indeed a great Idea but who is going to open it?
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Cahalbrua on February 20, 2014, 09:51:01 PM
Two senior club members.

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2

Title: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Ciderhead on February 20, 2014, 11:00:41 PM
Lads that's a sledge to crack a nut.
You are only 24hrs talking about this.
Nothing pioneering the NHC has done has ever been easy.
Damn you for your creativity and innovation ;)

Brian has given you the green light and so for big spends pay the Commission and use the club resources, for smaller buys, fund it at your meets.

Please show us all how it's done as we all want to copy your model :)
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColmR on February 20, 2014, 11:32:53 PM
Holy jebus! I've been busy today and am only catching up on all the politics. I thought as primary organiser of this particular group buy I would say hi... And on this thread where most relevant.
Really appreciate my NCB brothers' posts and thoughts on the other thread. It seemed that I was being attacked for making a suggestion.

I think that meeting up may be awkward and might delay things. Let's have a think about it.  There may be options.

Man... Remember when we came here to learn about brewing and talk with other brewers?  ;)

Colm

Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Shane Phelan on February 20, 2014, 11:47:06 PM
Quote from: ColmR on February 20, 2014, 11:32:53 PM

Man... Remember when we came here to learn about brewing and talk with other brewers?  ;)


Yeah but a mash takes an hour and we all need entertainment during that time.  :P
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Ciderhead on February 21, 2014, 12:19:33 AM
Nobody was attacking you Colm, the who what why and when needed to be defined and I would think at this point it has been so show us the way forward.


Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: DEMPSEY on February 21, 2014, 12:48:11 AM
Sure a bit of tet a tet is good now and again to sort out things. Always emember written threads lack human body language and vocal tone and do sometimes come out seeming harsh :). And what comes after a tet a tet A BIG LOVE IN  :-*
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColmR on February 21, 2014, 09:54:43 AM
Back on track.

I've requested an official quote for the malt and hops. In terms of payment I think it's probably fine to wire me the money.
But we still need a location to take delivery. Post or PM ideas please :).

As soon as I get pricing back I'll update the spreadsheet with individual amounts required. Once everyone is 100% happy, we'll transfer funds.

Colm
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Will_D on February 21, 2014, 10:30:33 AM
Great work Colm, The NCB express is back on the track!
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColmR on February 21, 2014, 11:01:33 AM
Uh oh!
There may be supply issues for a couple of the hops. Will update later. PM me suggestions of possible vendors if you have any.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColmR on February 21, 2014, 04:58:43 PM
OK. So I've reached out to some other suppliers. I thought I'd wait to hear back (and will update if/when I do). But here's the skinny and my suggestion if we go with the current crowd.

BTW I've updated the sheet to add in two new tabs to reflect the below.

Firstly all malt is available. Good  :)
3 out of our hops are in stock. First Gold, Centennial, Galaxy... all good.
However we need to find a substitute or wait 'til April for some of the hops. Citra Pellets will be in stock in April as will Simcoe leaf only. German Magnum isn't available. US Magnum will be in stock in April as well, but costs more than twice the price. I suggest Columbus (CTZ) as a replacement. This was on our shortlist and would be a pretty neat bittering hop.

Delivery will be more expensive if we split the order obviously but I know we all want our Citra and Simcoe so I propose this:

Have a look at the spreadsheet. You will see that the amounts that you've originally committed to spending haven't changed much at all. In fact, it's come down for some of us. And these numbers include freight.

On this new sheet. I've increased R@H's 0.5k of Magnum to 1kg Columbus as I know he wanted 1kg Columbus originally.
Please don't edit the new sheets. Let's chat first.

What do you all think?


Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: nigel_c on February 21, 2014, 05:41:20 PM
What sort of added cost would incure if we split the orders to malt now and hops on April?
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColmR on February 21, 2014, 10:27:37 PM
Quote from: nigel_c on February 21, 2014, 05:41:20 PM
What sort of added cost would incure if we split the orders to malt now and hops on April?
The new sheet includes this cost and scenario. The malt needs to go on a pallet which can fit any hops £110. Second delivery is then £25 up to 30kg. Both ex VAT. The new sheet works it all out using the split I mentioned before.

On Monday I should have an official quite and I'll upload it to our spread sheet.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColMack on February 24, 2014, 09:47:21 AM
Quote from: ColmR on February 21, 2014, 04:58:43 PM
What do you all think?

All seems logical. Thanks
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Will_D on February 24, 2014, 10:50:35 AM
Looking great Colm.

Well done
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColmR on February 25, 2014, 11:31:39 AM
Hi all,
I think we're ready to get our moneys together. I've added a screenshot of the quote to the spreadsheet on a new tab called quote. This tab also has your overall amounts listed as well.
The other two pages "New Hop Orders" and "New Malt Orders" show what you're getting.

I made a slight miscalculation on the Citra pricing. Other than that the amounts are as they were last Friday.

I now simply ask all 12 of you to send me a PM saying that you're happy with your order choices and the cost. Once I get the 12 PMs we'll do the funds transfer and I'll place the order.

But I also need suggestions of where we can ship the pallet. Unfortunately I do not have the ability to receive a pallet, so I ask for your help.

Thanks,
Colm
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColMack on February 25, 2014, 11:44:20 AM
My garage (with a bit of tidying) will take a pallet.  It'll only be for a week or two.
Could be awkward getting it up the driveway, but other than that, it would be ok.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Rats on February 25, 2014, 11:51:52 AM
Quote from: ColMack on February 25, 2014, 11:44:20 AM
My garage (with a bit of tidying) will take a pallet.
Do I see another BBQ coming up......... :P
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColmR on February 25, 2014, 12:48:48 PM
Quote from: ColMack on February 25, 2014, 11:44:20 AM
My garage (with a bit of tidying) will take a pallet.  It'll only be for a week or two.

Thanks Colin, what about the Dublin contingent?
Most of the malt is for the Dublin lads, so I think a Dublin drop off point would be better. Keep the suggestions coming.

...and keep sending those PMs :)
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Jacob on February 25, 2014, 01:29:02 PM
Quote from: ColmR on February 25, 2014, 12:48:48 PM
Most of the malt is for the Dublin lads

I must be looking at the wrong document then.
So far I've counted 20 bags ordered by northsiders, so with 30 bags ordered in total that gives majority ...

+1 to Colins garage
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColMack on February 25, 2014, 02:45:41 PM
Quote from: ColmR on February 25, 2014, 12:48:48 PM
Quote from: ColMack on February 25, 2014, 11:44:20 AM
My garage (with a bit of tidying) will take a pallet.  It'll only be for a week or two.

Thanks Colin, what about the Dublin contingent?
Most of the malt is for the Dublin lads, so I think a Dublin drop off point would be better. Keep the suggestions coming.

...and keep sending those PMs :)

I agree completely, it's just if we're stuck, it's there.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColmR on February 27, 2014, 03:56:26 PM
12 out of 13 are ready to go. When I hear from the last straggler I'll send on details to y'all to arrange payment.

But I still haven't settled on a delivery point. So far the suggestions have been generous and I appreciate everybody's kindness, but I'm not sure how ideally suited they are as a drop off point for 30 bags of malt. So we have:
Still taking suggestions. Remember this is your precious malt and hops... :)
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Jacob on February 27, 2014, 04:23:09 PM
Colm, even if we'll have to collect them from Meath, I can take few extra bags and store them in Swords for a day or two.
Heard same thing from Will. However still think that garage location would be perfect as we'll have to cut&repack our hop bales.
From what I've heard wouldn't recommend doing that in a kitchen or living room  8)
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColmR on February 27, 2014, 04:48:13 PM
Quote from: Jacob on February 27, 2014, 04:23:09 PM
Colm, even if we'll have to collect them from Meath, I can take few extra bags and store them in Swords for a day or two.
Heard same thing from Will. However still think that garage location would be perfect as we'll have to cut&repack our hop bales.
From what I've heard wouldn't recommend doing that in a kitchen or living room  8)

Some fine logic there. Do we have a garage further south?

The hops are only a tiny part of the shipment (4% of the entire weight). So they can always be taken after to a site to do the division.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Will_D on February 27, 2014, 10:39:41 PM
As Jacob said - I am happy to arrive and help with moving and sorting of the grain:

You need a fairly large area to set out the different sacks, then "pick them" into the individuals peoples orders. For this you need space. ColMacs garage so far is the only place that ticks the boxes.

I will then take away the Renault full for the Malahide lads. Tends to store well in the car and acts as a marvellous air freshner.

Big Plus: No self respecting Irish Rodent would be seen dead in a Renault!

So when we have all paid and ordered we can split up the collection and distribution of the sub-lots.


The hops are a different matter. For that you need a clean space plus tables and chairs. Its again about splitting, sorting and packing, labelling and picking the orders. Its only 6 bales!

I will check but I am sure we could use the rugby club as a packing station. We have plenty of Fridge space for the few days and then cold meet up on Saturday afternoon for a packing session! I have a nice room in mind.

Also have a massive freezer for any long term storage!
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColmR on February 28, 2014, 11:24:07 AM
Payment details sent to you all via PM.

Colin's garage does look like the best bet alright. Hope he's ok with it :)

Colm
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: nigel_c on February 28, 2014, 07:14:22 PM
Payment sent. Cheers Colm.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Will_D on February 28, 2014, 10:04:47 PM
Confirmed re. the hops.

We can set up and re-pack in the rugby club whenever it suits us!

I can pick-up and store hops until we meet up
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColMack on February 28, 2014, 11:11:52 PM
Yeah, should be ok. I'll work something out for meeting the delivery.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: BrianC on March 01, 2014, 12:17:33 AM
Payment made.
Thanks for your hard work Colm.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColMack on March 02, 2014, 06:23:16 PM
Payment sent.  Should reach the account tomorrow.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColmR on March 03, 2014, 03:15:38 PM
Order in. Delivery should be quick enough, within a week. Pay up if you haven't yet :-)
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Rats on March 04, 2014, 10:08:22 AM
Paid
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColMack on March 06, 2014, 03:01:27 PM
Pallet arrived at lunchtime today.  It's all safely stored in the garage now.  30 bags of malt and 5 boxes of hops.
One bag of wheat malt was damaged and is short 5 - 10Kg.  Noted on the delivery docket.
I know how you like pictures so here are a few.  Hopefully they attach ok.
I'll be around one of the days this weekend for collecting, she hasn't told me which one yet.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Jacob on March 06, 2014, 03:13:16 PM
Holy shit!!! All delivered within 3 days from the order  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: nigel_c on March 06, 2014, 04:27:23 PM
Savage.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Will_D on March 06, 2014, 07:16:59 PM
Epic!

"NCB all the Way"

I will come up at weekend and pickup the hops and malts as required.

Can we suggest weekend after ( Sat/Sun 15/16) as a hop packing afternoon in the club?

Can sort out details next Tuesday!
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColMack on March 07, 2014, 02:36:17 PM
Lads,
I'll be around home at 5pm on Sunday afternoon if you want to come and collect your malt.
Jacob is coming at that time.
Local lads could come any evening.  PM me for address and phone number if your coming.
I'll get the list of who ordered what from ColmR.
Bear in mind that one of the wheat malt bags were damaged so maybe the fairest thing to do would be to take some from the other bag to top it up.  That way we'll have two approx 21kg bags.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Jacob on March 07, 2014, 02:45:50 PM
As Colin said, I'll be collecting my malts on S-day.
Can take few bags extra, so please PM me anyone interested.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Jacob on March 07, 2014, 02:49:25 PM
Quote from: ColMack on March 07, 2014, 02:36:17 PM
Bear in mind that one of the wheat malt bags were damaged so maybe the fairest thing to do would be to take some from the other bag to top it up.  That way we'll have two approx 21kg bags.
Just checked google doc, and it looks like we purchased just 3 bags of wheat from which 2 are mine :(

Was there anyone if touch with our supplier about it?
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColMack on March 07, 2014, 02:54:42 PM
Sorry, Just checked the delivery docket and it does say 3 bags of wheat delivered.  So we might end up with three bags of 21.66kg worst case scenario (assuming we lost 10kgs).
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Jacob on March 07, 2014, 02:58:18 PM
Quote from: ColMack on March 07, 2014, 02:54:42 PM
Sorry, Just checked the delivery docket and it does say 3 bags of wheat delivered.  So we might end up with three bags of 21.66kg worst case scenario (assuming we lost 10kgs).
I'm fine with that, let's wait for Brian opinion as third bag belongs to him.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Will_D on March 07, 2014, 07:55:24 PM
I can call up 5 pm Sunday and pickup 7 bags for Me, James, Nigel, Cahal.

Also will take the Hops if thats what we want.


Now re. the hops:

We have use of MRFC (when it suits us)

We Need:

Vacuum packers ( 1 or 2 )
Bags to hold 500 gms of pellets ( 60 plus)

Digital scales and plastic containers to weigh the hops (1 or 2)

Super market sized carrier bags for "picking" individuluals orders ( 15 or 20 )

Larger rubbish bag sized bags to take away the carrier bags for local re-distribution ( 10 or so)

Magic markers to label hops: name/AA/purchaser and also the bigger "picked" bags

Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: BrianC on March 08, 2014, 08:15:48 PM
Quote from: Jacob on March 07, 2014, 02:58:18 PM
Quote from: ColMack on March 07, 2014, 02:54:42 PM
Sorry, Just checked the delivery docket and it does say 3 bags of wheat delivered.  So we might end up with three bags of 21.66kg worst case scenario (assuming we lost 10kgs).
I'm fine with that, let's wait for Brian opinion as third bag belongs to him.

Thats fine I am happy with that.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Partridge9 on March 09, 2014, 11:03:33 AM
Quote from: Will_D on March 07, 2014, 07:55:24 PM
I can call up 5 pm Sunday and pickup 7 bags for Me, James, Nigel, Cahal.

Also will take the Hops if thats what we want.

Thanks a mil Will, I will pickup from you.
I have some bags - will I take the munich and break it into four bags ?

Dont mind doing that.

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Now re. the hops:

We have use of MRFC (when it suits us)
Cool
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We Need:

Vacuum packers ( 1 or 2 )

I have a Vacuum Packer I can donate.

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Bags to hold 500 gms of pellets ( 60 plus)
I have 1 roll of bags to donate
- but we probably need some more.

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Digital scales and plastic containers to weigh the hops (1 or 2)

I have scales to donate

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Super market sized carrier bags for "picking" individuluals orders ( 15 or 20 )

unsure what you mean (but Im a bit dense at this hour of the morning)

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Larger rubbish bag sized bags to take away the carrier bags for local re-distribution ( 10 or so)

I'll bring a roll of bags.

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Magic markers to label hops: name/AA/purchaser and also the bigger "picked" bags

Should be able to sort a few of them (just need to check the box of markers)
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Will_D on March 16, 2014, 06:29:28 PM
I have updated the google spread sheet with the hop specs
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Rats on March 16, 2014, 06:36:13 PM
Can anyone sent me the google spread sheet link again.
I deleted it by accident.  :-[
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Will_D on March 16, 2014, 07:09:58 PM
Pm Sent!
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Rats on March 16, 2014, 07:16:44 PM
Quote from: Will_D on March 16, 2014, 07:09:58 PM
Pm Sent!
TX
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Will_D on April 20, 2014, 11:35:25 AM
IIRC: They said that the rest of the hops would be delivered mid April.

Any Word?
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Rats on April 24, 2014, 09:24:37 AM
Quote from: Will_D on April 20, 2014, 11:35:25 AM
IIRC: They said that the rest of the hops would be delivered mid April.

Any Word?
>:(
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColmR on April 24, 2014, 04:10:00 PM
Hi. I'm away on hols this week. Will give the supplier a bell next week.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: ColmR on April 29, 2014, 12:25:14 PM
PM sent to all who are waiting on Simcoe and Citra.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: nigel_c on April 29, 2014, 01:17:17 PM
I'd prefer to wait for the pellet citra.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Cahalbrua on April 29, 2014, 02:08:34 PM
Pellet also
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Jacob on April 29, 2014, 02:12:08 PM
I prefer pellets but don't want to wait another 5 weeks so leafs for me...
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Rats on April 29, 2014, 02:20:30 PM
Leafs will do.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Partridge9 on April 30, 2014, 10:39:32 PM
Leaf is grand for me, dont mind hop bags at all.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Will_D on May 02, 2014, 01:18:43 PM
Just got the tracking number from Colm. The hops are in transit

:)  :)  :)

As its the AGM this Sunday maybe Saturday the 10th? (Sunday 11 is the Giro D'Italia - big Italian themed day in the club)
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Jacob on May 02, 2014, 02:02:17 PM
Let's do that in the Boro on 13th :P
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Will_D on May 08, 2014, 10:14:59 AM
The hops have arrived!

So we now have 3 balesto pack. We are going to need a lot of bags both plastic and vaccuum.

I sugegest we pack into 250 gm lots as this is much easier.

Leaf hops are a LOT messier to pack than pellets so I'm afraid Jacobs sugestions is out. I suspect this Saturday is too soon as people with machines may need to order bags.

BTW: Bags work out cheaper (and LOT easier) than buying the roll!

Rember also to get re-imbursed for the bags from the club coffers.

Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Will_D on May 17, 2014, 02:35:49 PM
Just a heads up: I have at last ordered vac bags (and I couldn't resit - A vac machine for me  ;) )

And another: Please can you update the barrel thread if you are interested and also if you are not. That way we can move forward with this
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Will_D on May 29, 2014, 11:04:55 AM
So the bags are here we have access to 3 machines!

As next weekend is a holiday weekend and James is off using a coolbox for its intended purpose  ??? may I suggest we meet the Sunday after (8th) in the club at about 2pm?

That is nicely just before the next meeting - great for distribution logistics.

So, who's free?

1. Will_D:  Vac Bags, Inner Bags, Scales, Tarpaulin!!, Vac Machine plus Jacobs Machine

Also a reminder about the Barrel thread, the NCB and GC competitions, and the lawnmower beer comp!!
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Jacob on May 29, 2014, 11:11:37 AM
1. Will_D:  Vac Bags, Inner Bags, Scales, Tarpaulin!!, Vac Machine plus Jacobs Machine
2. Jacob
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: nigel_c on May 29, 2014, 01:22:52 PM

1. Will_D:  Vac Bags, Inner Bags, Scales, Tarpaulin!!, Vac Machine plus Jacobs Machine
2. Jacob
3. Nigel. Should be around
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Rats on May 29, 2014, 01:41:10 PM
1. Will_D:  Vac Bags, Inner Bags, Scales, Tarpaulin!!, Vac Machine plus Jacobs Machine
2. Jacob
3. Nigel. Should be around
4. R@H
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Will_D on May 29, 2014, 06:45:55 PM
We will need latex/rubber gloves for this!
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Cahalbrua on May 29, 2014, 07:04:33 PM
1. Will_D:  Vac Bags, Inner Bags, Scales, Tarpaulin!!, Vac Machine plus Jacobs Machine
2. Jacob
3. Nigel. Sehould be around
4. R@H
5. Cahalbrua *** box of  latex gloves ***

Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: nigel_c on May 29, 2014, 10:24:24 PM
I'll have a new vac packer as well if needed.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Partridge9 on May 30, 2014, 03:35:06 PM
Ill up for that ! More hands less work etc...
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: mcgrath on June 04, 2014, 02:32:33 PM
1. Will_D:  Vac Bags, Inner Bags, Scales, Tarpaulin!!, Vac Machine plus Jacobs Machine
2. Jacob
3. Nigel. Sehould be around
4. R@H
5. Cahalbrua *** box of  latex gloves ***
6. McGrath
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Partridge9 on June 04, 2014, 04:11:51 PM

1. Will_D:  Vac Bags, Inner Bags, Scales, Tarpaulin!!, Vac Machine plus Jacobs Machine
2. Jacob
3. Nigel. Sehould be around
4. R@H
5. Cahalbrua *** box of  latex gloves ***
6. McGrath
7. Partridge:  Vacuum Packer

My Scales is knackered - probably a good idea if we had another one... eh em.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: nigel_c on June 04, 2014, 04:44:40 PM
1. Will_D:  Vac Bags, Inner Bags, Scales, Tarpaulin!!, Vac Machine plus Jacobs Machine
2. Jacob
3. Nigel. Scales + tub
4. R@H
5. Cahalbrua *** box of  latex gloves ***
6. McGrath
7. Partridge:  Vacuum Packer
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: mcgrath on June 04, 2014, 05:36:40 PM
1. Will_D:  Vac Bags, Inner Bags, Scales, Tarpaulin!!, Vac Machine plus Jacobs Machine
2. Jacob
3. Nigel. Scales + tub
4. R@H
5. Cahalbrua *** box of  latex gloves ***
6. McGrath:  Scales
7. Partridge:  Vacuum Packer
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Will_D on June 07, 2014, 05:03:31 PM
Looking good guys.

See you at around 2 in the club.

BTW: We have nor been invaded by knackers: its the Caravan Club of Ireleand (Leinster Branch) in our car park.

How sad is that?
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Cahalbrua on June 07, 2014, 05:12:25 PM
Shit forgot about this sorry, very late night last night and asleep all day :'(
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Jacob on June 07, 2014, 05:40:38 PM
Quote from: Cahalbrua on June 07, 2014, 05:12:25 PM
Shit forgot about this sorry, very late night last night and asleep all day :'(
Hahahaha :P It's still Saturday and we're going to meet there tomorrow :D
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Cahalbrua on June 07, 2014, 06:03:01 PM
D'oh, my head is still a little fried.
As it happens I may not be able to make it tomorrow. Missus is going to the match, but I'll drop out the box of gloves.
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: mcgrath on June 07, 2014, 07:26:59 PM
Quote from: Cahalbrua on June 07, 2014, 05:12:25 PM
Shit forgot about this sorry, very late night last night and asleep all day :'(
Haha! That's funny..
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Will_D on June 07, 2014, 08:36:25 PM
Quote from: mcgrath on June 07, 2014, 07:26:59 PM
Quote from: Cahalbrua on June 07, 2014, 05:12:25 PM
Shit forgot about this sorry, very late night last night and asleep all day :'(
Haha! That's funny..
Postmen do work funny hours!
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: nigel_c on June 07, 2014, 08:40:39 PM
Teacher Teacher Cahalbrua  is still drunk.  ;)
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Will_D on June 08, 2014, 12:23:20 PM
Can someone also bring sharpies (perm. Markers)?
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Rats on June 08, 2014, 12:26:50 PM
I will bring some
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: mcgrath on June 08, 2014, 12:49:33 PM
Is this a purely sober affair? Cycling over myself..
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Will_D on June 08, 2014, 07:19:43 PM
So a great days packing!

3 bales of leaf, 3 vac packers, 7 peoples all done in not short of 2 hours - with a nice tea break!

They are packed in 100 gm bags!

@ColmR: I have yours for Tuesday (IIRC ???)

Some free stuff as well!
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: Partridge9 on June 09, 2014, 12:06:41 PM
I have cathals  - I got 'dagger eyes' when I brought those bags into the house -

Highlight had to be Ghostbusters blasting out on  the speakers !

Well done Will for organising
Title: Re: NCB Hop and Malt Buy
Post by: nigel_c on June 11, 2014, 10:46:56 PM
Lads, Have a look at your citra hops and check if the seal is alright on the VP bags. Mine are all blown. If you have a vac packer you may want to re seal the bags.