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Title: Bucket FV Conversion To HLT :D
Post by: Greg2013 on January 18, 2014, 11:07:59 AM
This is my Saturday morning work lol (well ok it will probably take me half hour at most). Anyway see where the tap goes in on that bucket HLT ? That gets awful soft when the liquor hits 90 c , i was wondering is there any way to stabilise that so i don't burn myself or pull the whole thing out trying to open the ball valve ?  Again this is temporary to get me going until i get a better vessel for my HLT but that might be a while
Title: Re: Bucket FV Conversion To HLT :D
Post by: Greg2013 on January 18, 2014, 11:10:28 AM
Basically i got pissed off farting around whether or not to convert the big stock pot so i did up one of these instead for now. If the buckets from Allpack that are non translucent are more stable at high temps i might stump up for a couple of those instead and just put this one down to trial and error ;D
Title: Re: Bucket FV Conversion To HLT :D
Post by: Greg2013 on January 18, 2014, 11:55:52 AM
What do ye reckon to that lot ? Would the 20qt stock pot be big enough for a HLT for little old me ?  ;D




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Title: Re: Bucket FV Conversion To HLT :D
Post by: Ciderhead on January 18, 2014, 01:09:20 PM
Greg are you talking to yourself again ;)
What you have there is perfect
Avg brew is 15-17 l for mash and 15-20 for sparge all depending what you are brewing
It will get soft it will start to break down at 120!


Title: Re: Bucket FV Conversion To HLT :D
Post by: Greg2013 on January 18, 2014, 01:14:55 PM
Quote from: CH on January 18, 2014, 01:09:20 PM
Greg are you talking to yourself again ;)
What you have there is perfect
Avg brew is 15-17 l for mash and 15-20 for sparge all depending what you are brewing
It will get soft it will start to break down at 120!

Yes CH slight case of the brain farts this morning but what's new lol. Was just worried when the bucket bent so much at the tap when I went to open it is all.
Title: Re: Bucket FV Conversion To HLT :D
Post by: Shanna on January 18, 2014, 01:24:28 PM
Hi Greg

Can I assume your using a compression fitting & an o-ring to secure the tap. I have found If you can put a large washer on the inside and the outside it gives the more surface area to grip on to rather than having to be secured completely against the wall of the bucket. Failing that when you go to open the tap handle get yourself an oven glove to actually hold the barrel of the tap securely in your hand and then open the handle of the tap.  That way you can brace the tap rather than having to rely on the full strength of the bucket.  Probably not a bad idea to lube the handle of the tap to reduce the force needed to open it.

Shanna
Title: Re: Bucket FV Conversion To HLT :D
Post by: Greg2013 on January 18, 2014, 01:33:51 PM
Quote from: Shanna on January 18, 2014, 01:24:28 PM
Hi Greg

Can I assume your using a compression fitting & an o-ring to secure the tap. I have found If you can put a large washer on the inside and the outside it gives the more surface area to grip on to rather than having to be secured completely against the wall of the bucket. Failing that when you go to open the tap handle get yourself an oven glove to actually hold the barrel of the tap securely in your hand and then open the handle of the tap.  That way you can brace the tap rather than having to rely on the full strength of the bucket.  Probably not a bad idea to lube the handle of the tap to reduce the force needed to open it.

Shanna

Hmm yes they both sound like great ideas Shanna, i will try those, probably not a bad idea to use an oven glove anyway when dealing with hot water  ;D
Title: Re: Bucket FV Conversion To HLT :D
Post by: Ciderhead on January 18, 2014, 01:34:01 PM
if its a stiff tap, lube the hell out of it!
Mine used to turn dead easy
Title: Re: Bucket FV Conversion To HLT :D
Post by: Greg2013 on January 18, 2014, 01:57:56 PM
Quote from: CH on January 18, 2014, 01:34:01 PM
if its a stiff tap, lube the hell out of it!
Mine used to turn dead easy

Time to bust out the KY so  :P
Title: Re: Bucket FV Conversion To HLT :D
Post by: Ciderhead on January 18, 2014, 02:12:47 PM
Uck I forgot you had that stuff! :P
Title: Re: Bucket FV Conversion To HLT :D
Post by: Greg2013 on January 18, 2014, 02:33:06 PM
When using a new boil keggle for the first time how important is it to calculate boil off volumes or rates ? I am retesting my keggle now and before i power it up i am wondering if this is something i need to be making note of ? Currently sitting outside with 35.6 litres of 6 Celsius water in it.  ;D
Title: Re: Bucket FV Conversion To HLT :D
Post by: Ciderhead on January 18, 2014, 02:45:52 PM
On average on a 30 litre boil you will lose 4-5 litres


Title: Re: Bucket FV Conversion To HLT :D
Post by: DEMPSEY on January 18, 2014, 02:47:24 PM
KY is excellent for use for sexual purposes, you rub it on the bedroom door handle on a Saturday morning so the little kids cannot get in. :P
Title: Re: Bucket FV Conversion To HLT :D
Post by: Greg2013 on January 18, 2014, 02:49:50 PM
Quote from: DEMPSEY on January 18, 2014, 02:47:24 PM
KY is excellent for use for sexual purposes, you rub it on the bedroom door handle on a Saturday morning so the little kids cannot get in. :P

And if you rub it on the inside door handle the missus can't get out  ;D
Title: Re: Bucket FV Conversion To HLT :D
Post by: Greg2013 on January 18, 2014, 05:36:10 PM
 Ok results are in lol. Starting with a volume of 34.5 litres of water @ 88 Celsius after 60 minutes full rolling boil i was left with exactly 29.5 litres. Boil off therefore is 5.0 litres over 60 minutes or 14.5%.  ;D
Title: Re: Bucket FV Conversion To HLT :D
Post by: Ciderhead on January 18, 2014, 07:11:42 PM
Good stuff
1 element?, insulated would be quicker obviously


Title: Re: Bucket FV Conversion To HLT :D
Post by: Greg2013 on January 18, 2014, 07:20:14 PM
Quote from: CH on January 18, 2014, 07:11:42 PM
Good stuff
1 element?, insulated would be quicker obviously

Two elements going for the whole boil. Yes i must get a lagging jacket in Waterford during the week ;D
Title: Re: Bucket FV Conversion To HLT :D
Post by: Ciderhead on January 18, 2014, 07:33:22 PM
Lid on to start until close to boil?
I used one of those camping ground sheets


Title: Re: Bucket FV Conversion To HLT :D
Post by: Greg2013 on January 18, 2014, 09:19:38 PM
Quote from: CH on January 18, 2014, 07:33:22 PM
Lid on to start until close to boil?
I used one of those camping ground sheets

No lid off as it needs some edging to fit properly, a minor step i shall have rectified shortly ;D
Title: Bucket FV Conversion To HLT :D
Post by: Ciderhead on January 18, 2014, 09:54:33 PM
It doesn't  need to seal just sit on the top, a piece of board would do.
Note wort performs differently to water and you need to get ready to turn the elements off as it comes to hot break otherwise it will boil over and you will have a right mess.
Title: Re: Bucket FV Conversion To HLT :D
Post by: Greg2013 on January 18, 2014, 09:58:51 PM
Quote from: CH on January 18, 2014, 09:54:33 PM
It doesn't  need to seal just sit on the top, a piece of board would do.
Note wort performs different to water and you need to get ready to turn the elements off as it comes to hit break otherwise it will boil over and you will have a right mess.

Good point CH, i am thinking a big ass stainless steel ruler which will also double as a volume indicator  ???
Title: Re: Bucket FV Conversion To HLT :D
Post by: Greg2013 on January 18, 2014, 11:28:37 PM
Got a mad notion to do a test crush on my corona mill kindly donated FOC by a friend and below is the result, tell me if it looks too fine or ok please ?
Title: Re: Bucket FV Conversion To HLT :D
Post by: alealex on January 19, 2014, 12:36:17 PM
Looks perfect, as much as I can tell from this pic, husk does not look destroyed - that's the main thing.
Good job for the first test crushing.
Title: Re: Bucket FV Conversion To HLT :D
Post by: Greg2013 on January 19, 2014, 06:45:25 PM
Best i can do on the phone cam  ;D