Hi all,
Been brewing inside on the gas hob and to keep the peace (for the love of God!) I'm looking to move outside. So will need a burner, gas, regulator and all that good stuff.
I want to buy good equipment but don't want to be ripped off either. Would like a nice powerful burner to bring liquid up to temp quickly and efficiently.
Anyone any suggestions of what to buy and where?
Ta,
Colm
Hamilton Gas (http://www.gasproducts.ie/) is the way to go.
8.8kw burner for 32.41e
http://www.gasproducts.ie/acatalog/Large_Square_Gas_Boiling_Ring.html
and a reg for 15.46e
http://www.gasproducts.ie/acatalog/LPG_Kosan_0-2_Bar_High_Pressure_Butane_Gas_Regulator.html
Had to replace one of those after two years, but for that price wont complain.
Thanks Jacob. Anyone else any other ideas or preferences? Is an 8.8kW burner as good as they get?
That's the setup I'm going for next time I've a spare €50. Same reason as you, ColmR.
Sad times when a fella can't fill a house with steam.
And she doesn't like the malty smell, or the sticky floor, or hop petals everywhere, or acetaldehyde, empty bottles stacked neatly in the corner, sulphury fermenty smells, my liver fat content, her liver fat content...
the above Gas Hob, is 8.8kW about 30,000BTU....for 72,000 BTU try a Blickmann burner ;p
http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/blichmann-floor-burner.html (http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/blichmann-floor-burner.html)
Might cost a bit with import tax from the states though >:D (Unless you can get someone to stick it in their bag) ::)
BrewPorn Vid on the Burner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80DXdiSVxQI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80DXdiSVxQI)
Quote from: ColmR on January 28, 2014, 02:22:51 PM
Is an 8.8kW burner as good as they get?
It's enough to bring ~50l to boil :)
Was thinking about Blichman as well, but because was unable to source it in EU finally purchased those.
Btw. that's what I got from Hop&Grape UK
QuoteI have just had confirmation from the supplier that they are still working on complying with the legislation/documentation required to sell in Europe.
So, there's a small chance that they'll start selling those.
re magnethead, it was yourself who got me thinking of the Blichmann. Maybe worth dropping Homebrewwest a note to see if they could get them in as Blichmann suppliers...
Cheers lads :)
If they can get the beer gun, hopstopper and hop rocket thingy they should be able to get the burner.
No blichmann burners in EU. They dont comply with EU rules/laws/regs. Email from Hop & Grape:
Blichmann have now stopped selling direct to retailers like us and are now using a European agent; the European agent won't order the Burners because they say they do not meet the European standard.
Blichmanns are working on this but we don't how soon it will be sorted.
I got mine from morebeer in the states along with a bunch of other stuff. Heavy parcel & cost me 120e for USPS. Worth it though. No customs as I had it shipped to a US mate first who sent to me as a gift.
There is a German company that make similar but it only looks to be onsale in US. http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/edelmetall-bru-burner.html
I posted a link to Jacob (or the other way round)a Birminghan company that list a 44kW propane Burner!
Found it:
This is the baby you need:
I think its rated at 44 kW!
http://www.birminghamburner.co.uk/shop/32-jet-ring-burner/
They also do smaller ones!
150,000 Btu per hour ???
1 BTU/hr = 0.29307107 W
So 150 K * 0.293 = 43.95
Only £100 May need a couple of big tanks to feed this tho!!
Ok girls just before you start getting stiffies about megga burners I just changed my 47Kg tank for the cooker last week, €125 in the Co-Op!!
Gas is not cheap v's electrity or turf!
Yea OK!
Yawn! Bloody Ecco Warriors!
Give up or retreat!
Where else can you find a 44 kW source of heat!
Your normal semi-D house Ceramic Fuse/breaker rated at 63 Amps. (Well mine is)
That is only about 16 kW
If you want to play with the big boys - you have to pay like the big boys.
If you think Propane is expensive - just ask the ESB to install a 3-phase supply at about 250 Amps.
You will pay through the nose just for having the ability to draw down power even if you don't use it!
;D :P
Allright there Tool Time Tim
Didn't you work on satellite propulsion systems? ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjuXrxHcFfg
If you think thats extreme, just stand 2 kms away from an Arianne V.
Unfortunately we had to have our own BBQs about 3 kms away Eff**g Elf n Eff**g safety
Quote from: CH on January 28, 2014, 09:28:43 PM
Ok girls just before you start getting stiffies about megga burners I just changed my 47Kg tank for the cooker last week, €125 in the Co-Op!!
Gas is not cheap v's electrity or turf!
Could get a good rolling boil going with some turf. I'll just dig out my 1l stockpot.
Quote from: CH on January 28, 2014, 09:28:43 PM
Ok girls just before you start getting stiffies about megga burners I just changed my 47Kg tank for the cooker last week, €125 in the Co-Op!!
Gas is not cheap v's electrity or turf!
Is there any dedicated gas company around your area? I can get these from Cork Gas Company for about €90 or €95 a go, but know they are a good bit more in the local co-op or any of the other similar providers. I've gone back to electric now that I have scaled back down. There are definite pros and cons to gas vs electric, but electric just suits my purposes better now. I will miss the ease of doing a step mash for my wheat beers, and elements can be a pain to keep clean, but happy enough with the change.
Fraid Not, checked with local coal wholesaler 125 as well :(
Another downside to bottle gas is you need a standby bottle as you don't want to get caught running out of gas half way through :)
Quote from: DEMPSEY on January 29, 2014, 11:41:53 AM
Another downside to bottle gas is you need a standby bottle as you don't want to get caught running out of gas half way through :)
Never find it a problem, simply need to remember to check your bottle weight before brewing.
Never find it a problem, simply need to remember to check your bottle weight before brewing.
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Pi x drzwi, how much gas would you use per 40l brew? roughly.
Quote from: alealex on January 29, 2014, 01:15:42 PM
Pi x drzwi, how much gas would you use per 40l brew? roughly.
Cylinder usually last for 7,8 brews so ~1.375 - 1.5kg
I have a boil ring I bought last year (without stand) for €20.00
So you have done 7 brews and starting your 8th. Do you go for it or do you waste the gas that left by returning the bottle for a replacement bottle.
Quote from: DEMPSEY on January 29, 2014, 03:58:03 PM
So you have done 7 brews and starting your 8th. Do you go for it or do you waste the gas that left by returning the bottle for a replacement bottle.
When I was using the gas I had 2 gas bottles. One was always full as i used the gas for my BBQ as well.
Same as. Always have a spare. Love the propane (something primal about it thats class to brew with). I rent so getting electrics done to cover a few big ass KW elements isnt an option. Those 8.8KW burners from hamiltons are shite for anything more than 50 Litres (ive owned two) In blichmanns defence they boast high efficiency "fuel-sipping". The hamilton gas rings were pretty good on gas too so any improvement on that is a great success. Il report back in two months & give my low down on hamilton burner vs blichmann burner.
Quote from: DEMPSEY on January 29, 2014, 03:58:03 PM
So you have done 7 brews and starting your 8th. Do you go for it or do you waste the gas that left by returning the bottle for a replacement bottle.
Pretty much, but it's a hobby so even if I'll be down by 1-2e because of that, simply don't care.
Just taking this up after a year!
Good info here
Just planning my first propane brew
1. In Dublin - who is your supplier and what propane tanks do you order?
2. Do you still need to buy an extra regulator or can the supplier give you this?
I see the posts from before:
are these still the recommended?
1. Large Square Gas Boiling Ring
http://gasproducts.co.uk/large-square-gas-boiling-ring.html?s404=large%20square%20gas%20boiling%20ring
2. Regulator
http://gasproducts.co.uk/catalogsearch/result/?f=lpg+kosan+0+2+bar+high+pressure+butane+gas+regulator&q=kosan+0+2+bar+high+pressure+butane+gas+regulator
Thanks all
Quote from: Ciderhead on January 28, 2014, 09:28:43 PM
Ok girls just before you start getting stiffies about megga burners I just changed my 47Kg tank for the cooker last week, €125 in the Co-Op!!
Gas is not cheap v's electrity or turf!
I pay €90 a bottle from the Cork Gas Company, which was the best price I could find anywhere. I do get around 5 at a time between myself and the folks, between gas fires and cooker, and they deliver then. I don't use them for brewing anymore though.
The reg in #2 is a Butane reg! You were talking about propane. See my other post to you!
Will