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General Discussions => Brewing Communities => Liffey Brewers => Topic started by: lordstilton on February 15, 2014, 10:35:05 AM

Title: Barrel stout entry
Post by: lordstilton on February 15, 2014, 10:35:05 AM
Are we sticking in a bottle to the national??
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: DEMPSEY on February 15, 2014, 11:38:03 PM
Who is his first choice
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: Ciderhead on February 15, 2014, 11:53:52 PM
Ah do you don't know how it will be judged on the day!
I was told the Loafey Brewers was very good?
Ours wasn't carbed either when he tasted it  :P
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: imark on February 16, 2014, 03:07:53 PM
When do the barrel entries need to be in? We should taste a few of ours and choose one to enter.
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: beerfly on February 16, 2014, 10:25:45 PM
thats just my personal taste, the judges could be looking for something completely different
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on February 17, 2014, 12:18:32 PM
We should all put them in. Apart from the bragging rights, it will also mean that whoever does win (assuming one of us does and not another barrel aged stout) can go over their process with the others and we can all learn from it.
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: imark on February 20, 2014, 11:31:55 AM
I'll crack one open tonight and get back to you
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: Dodge on March 04, 2014, 12:53:58 PM
What's the story with our entry?
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: Dodge on March 04, 2014, 03:57:05 PM
I suggest since there is no answer yet that we bring samples to taste on the 8th?
What you think?
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: imark on March 04, 2014, 05:58:36 PM
Ha? Did we miss the entry date for the barrel competition?
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: Damien M on March 04, 2014, 06:16:48 PM
Quote from: Tube on March 04, 2014, 03:00:42 PM
Who the fook is Damien M?

I'm the (Government) Artist formally known as DaMun!!!!
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: Damien M on March 04, 2014, 06:21:17 PM
Quote from: Damien M on March 04, 2014, 06:16:48 PM
Quote from: Tube on March 04, 2014, 03:00:42 PM
Who the fook is Damien M?

I'm the (Government) Artist formally known as DaMun!!!!

Actually wishful thinking that I was a (Government) Artist, formally known as DaMun!
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: Dodge on March 04, 2014, 06:46:47 PM
I don't know? Here is the link

http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.com/forum/index.php/topic,5371.30.html

Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: imark on March 04, 2014, 07:20:12 PM
I asked when this needed to be submitted on post 6 of this thread. So have we missed it now? I'm confused.
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: imark on March 04, 2014, 08:01:10 PM
I blame the homebrew for the confusion and the thick wiry hairs growing out my ears.
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: Ciderhead on March 04, 2014, 11:58:05 PM
You haven't missed the date, please decide your entry and get it to Rossa or me before the 17th if you can?

We will investigate the suspected entry and advise, we were pretty clear as to what would happen if barrel entries were put into the competition.
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: imark on March 05, 2014, 12:03:32 AM
As most of us are brewing together on 8th let's choose one of the beers then?
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: imark on March 13, 2014, 10:05:28 AM
We need to get our bottles in for the competition in the next few days if we're entering. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: Dodge on March 13, 2014, 12:28:23 PM
I know we tasted my half filled bottle which obviously was lacking carb, but I had left with Tube another 3 full bottles. Try one full one which should be fine and yours and send something down.
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: Ciderhead on March 13, 2014, 01:30:11 PM
Please lads as I want to collect your entry next Weds


Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: Eoin on March 13, 2014, 01:41:35 PM
Quote from: Dodge on March 13, 2014, 12:28:23 PM
I know we tasted my half filled bottle which obviously was lacking carb, but I had left with Tube another 3 full bottles. Try one full one which should be fine and yours and send something down.


That was the tarry stuff that nearly made me yack ;) 

Not my bag at all, but good luck with your entry lads, it seems a few of you like it anyway.
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: mcgrath on March 13, 2014, 07:23:58 PM
Check mine tomorrow if u want.
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: imark on March 13, 2014, 08:43:49 PM
Pick which ever one is best and I'm happy to go with your selection.
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: imark on March 13, 2014, 09:14:49 PM
It shouldn't be heavily carbonated in my opinion. Just enough.
Anybody else got one they think is good candidate?
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: Dodge on March 13, 2014, 10:27:30 PM
I agree with Mark, it shouldn't be overly carbonated but for the comp this is a benefit since while the judges are deliberating, the beer is getting to the right level.  ;D

Decide and stick it in. I'm happy whatever is decided ::)
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: johnrm on March 15, 2014, 08:37:23 AM
FFS, It's a bit of craic. Stick one in.
Sweet Jesus...
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: imark on March 15, 2014, 10:58:25 AM
Quote from: johnrm on March 15, 2014, 08:37:23 AM
FFS, It's a bit of craic. Stick one in.
Sweet Jesus...
we'll definitely have an entry.
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on March 19, 2014, 03:48:19 PM
I'll check mine later. It seemed perfectly carbonated to me the last time I tried it.

Can I just bring it down to Cork on the day if it's okay?
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on March 19, 2014, 04:14:40 PM
Is JohnRM in charge of Cork?
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: Ciderhead on March 19, 2014, 04:31:08 PM
He is, just sent you a message, cheers.


Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: johnrm on March 19, 2014, 08:14:02 PM
I'm good with that Reuben.
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: lordstilton on March 22, 2014, 05:50:21 PM
Jesus I'd love to taste the others.. Ours was class.. First must be unreal
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: lordstilton on March 22, 2014, 06:45:02 PM
Did we win best club?
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: imark on March 22, 2014, 06:49:07 PM
Yes. Looks like it. Don't know what criteria is though.
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: lordstilton on March 22, 2014, 06:50:29 PM
Epicness
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on March 22, 2014, 07:06:02 PM
Quote from: lordstilton on March 22, 2014, 06:45:02 PM
Did we win best club?
I have our cup to prove it!
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: Shanna on March 22, 2014, 07:09:45 PM
Quote from: Tube on March 22, 2014, 05:52:06 PM
Judges apparently looking for whiskey, but we deliberately left our's to age out.
Hi Tube,

Did ye have much whiskey in your barrel? We had about 1/2 litre in our barrel that is still sitting on it and I would be curious to know how your barrel compared to ours?

Shanna
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: imark on March 22, 2014, 07:10:13 PM
Open top bus to the LC tomorrow
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: Shanna on March 22, 2014, 08:40:45 PM
Hi Tube,

Interesting as ours has been in the barrel since June of last year, almost 9 months in total. We had about 500mls of 60% whiskey but without a doubt the barrel itself must have held some more in the timbers. Our barrel was a 220litre monster. The most recent taste I had from it I thought the whiskey had almost disappeared but CH reckoned there was a major bang off it. Shows what I know  ::)

Shanna
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: imark on March 22, 2014, 09:08:43 PM
I think the whiskey is quite pronounced in the liffey barrel.
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: mcgrath on March 22, 2014, 09:43:16 PM
I'd check.. but I'm busy celebrating my second place with SCB :-)
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: Bubbles on March 22, 2014, 10:33:27 PM
Good lad.. ;) :)
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: imark on March 23, 2014, 12:16:09 PM
Gold=5pts
Silver=3pts
Bronze=1pt
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: imark on March 23, 2014, 12:26:50 PM
Speculating
It's surely weighted on achievement
Title: Barrel stout entry
Post by: Ciderhead on March 23, 2014, 12:47:24 PM
Quote from: Tube on March 22, 2014, 05:37:27 PM
Boo hiss. Placed 4 or 5 out of 5  ::)

8 entries in total which were all barrels
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: Ciderhead on March 23, 2014, 01:39:36 PM
Barrel comp was a straight 1,2,3 no feedback all judged by 5 commercial brewers


Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: imark on March 25, 2014, 05:12:31 PM
Coincidentally, Dr. Homebrew podcast on Friday covered barrel aged stout. Worth a listen if you want to hear how the score a beer on it. Note, the complain about not enough dark roasty malt and too much whiskey...ho hum!  ::)

I would have thought the lack of any vanilla from the oak would have been the biggest failing of all the barrels. No mention of that from the judging though?
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: imark on March 25, 2014, 05:35:17 PM
True. I was going by this post http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.com/forum/index.php/topic,5774.msg77914.html#msg77914 (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.com/forum/index.php/topic,5774.msg77914.html#msg77914)

It says looking for whiskey and some had too much dark malt. It's all I have t go on.
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: Taf on March 25, 2014, 05:38:01 PM
I know Tube that you asked on another thread about the whiskey character of our brew, as you didn't seem to have much, or maybe that was someone else. Anyway, ours had a lot. Too much I thought to begin with, but it's starting to mellow now, but will always be there.

When you got your barrel, did you take out much whiskey before you filled it with beer? Ours had about a litre and a quarter of whiskey in it, which we removed, so I guess that's why we got so much whiskey character and maybe others didn't.

I didn't hear much feedback from the barrel judging either, but did hear they were looking for whiskey character, so that could have helped the Rebel cause.
Title: Re: Barrel stout entry
Post by: Taf on March 25, 2014, 05:56:01 PM
I think the key to vanilla is getting fresh barrels, not making the beer too strong, not leaving it in there too long, and not leaving it too long before drinking. To be honest whiskey stout isn't my favorite style, but the best one I ever tried was the first cask of the jameson that the well put on at xmas for the party. I could really get the vanilla, but by the time I tried a cask of the same batch at the cask fest in feb the vanilla was gone.