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Title: Someone with a Pill Press
Post by: Will_D on February 19, 2014, 09:14:22 PM
OK: Whats a "Pill Press"?

Its a simple small device (bench tool) that compresses powders into pills. Either a single pill or multiple pills can be made - it all depends on the tooling. Its like a punch and die set but makes pills!

Why: Some entrpreneur could make NHC carbonating drops suitable for 330 / 500 / 750 mL bottles.

Ingredients: Glucose and a simple binding agent ( like dampness or a simple starch binder )

Result: Carbonating drops designed for the Irish market ( not those odd ball Ozzy ones
Title: Re: Someone with a Pill Press
Post by: delzep on February 19, 2014, 09:27:45 PM
A modified bench capper could work. Ejecting could be a bit tricky maybe?
Title: Re: Someone with a Pill Press
Post by: LordEoin on February 19, 2014, 09:52:05 PM
I'm not sure there's a need. 'those odd ball Ozzy ones' are grand at 1 per 500ml bottle (6grams per liter)
How many grams per drop would you think is more suitable?
Title: Re: Someone with a Pill Press
Post by: delzep on February 19, 2014, 09:57:20 PM
Quote from: Tube's Beer Kit on February 19, 2014, 09:37:04 PM
Yeah, don't forget all the red tape that'd be put in your way by quangos such as the HSE, FSA, HIQA, ESB, RUC, DUP, etc...
You forgot Elomenopee
Title: Re: Someone with a Pill Press
Post by: Dunkel on February 19, 2014, 10:09:42 PM
Weren't they a progressive rock group in the 70s?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bAhw3Ct3zU 
Title: Re: Someone with a Pill Press
Post by: Ciderhead on February 19, 2014, 10:16:00 PM
Nope they wrote Music for 70's porno films ;)
Title: Re: Someone with a Pill Press
Post by: Will_D on February 19, 2014, 10:21:18 PM
Quote from: LordEoin on February 19, 2014, 09:52:05 PM
I'm not sure there's a need. 'those odd ball Ozzy ones' are grand at 1 per 500ml bottle (6grams per liter)
How many grams per drop would you think is more suitable?
I don't need to use them.

I am just going on the fact that a lot of people post up complaining that the Ozzy drops are not correct for what we brew!

Title: Re: Someone with a Pill Press
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on February 19, 2014, 10:49:06 PM
I also remember a pill press from a film about drugs, think they were making ecstacy tablets . . . .

But drops made to suit 330 / 500 / 750 would be an excellent idea!!!!
Title: Re: Someone with a Pill Press
Post by: LordEoin on February 20, 2014, 10:11:17 AM
Quote from: Will_D on February 19, 2014, 10:21:18 PM
I am just going on the fact that a lot of people post up complaining that the Ozzy drops are not correct for what we brew!
I think the main complaint is that the coopers recommended amount is 2 per 750ml bottle and we don't use 750ml bottles much, which leads to people needing to split to 1.5 per 500ml bottle to get the same rate.
In my opinion, that much priming sugar (8grams per liter) is almost always too much, and simply using 1 drop per 500ml is a far more suitable quantity for most beers.
They're never going to be correct for all brews, just convenient for folks who wont/cant bulk prime.
Title: Re: Someone with a Pill Press
Post by: Will_D on February 20, 2014, 10:13:44 AM
At last two sensible comments!
Title: Re: Someone with a Pill Press
Post by: Jacob on February 20, 2014, 10:33:59 AM
What about funnel & 1/2 tbsp?
Title: Re: Someone with a Pill Press
Post by: LordEoin on February 20, 2014, 01:00:08 PM
The problem with that is you'll often get foaming as soon as the beer hits the sugar.
i also find it hard to do without getting sugar everywhere and it's difficult to get consistency.

Some other folks make a sugar syrup and use a syringe, which can be more consistent and less messy.
Title: Re: Someone with a Pill Press
Post by: Garry on February 20, 2014, 01:36:06 PM
Quote from: Jacob on February 20, 2014, 10:33:59 AM
What about funnel & 1/2 tbsp?

My problem with using a funnel is; after you've sanitized the funnel, it's wet. Add a tsp of sugar and your lucky if a 1/4 tsp gets into the bottle :x

You can let the funnel dry after sanitizing but that requires preparation  :P
Title: Re: Someone with a Pill Press
Post by: Jacob on February 20, 2014, 02:04:19 PM
Quote from: LordEoin on February 20, 2014, 01:00:08 PM
The problem with that is you'll often get foaming as soon as the beer hits the sugar.
i also find it hard to do without getting sugar everywhere and it's difficult to get consistency.

Some other folks make a sugar syrup and use a syringe, which can be more consistent and less messy.
Never had any problems with foaming but have to say that I've carbed ~10 bottles this way so far.
Using syringe would the way to go, but in case of 1-2 bottles.
Title: Re: Someone with a Pill Press
Post by: Jacob on February 20, 2014, 02:05:16 PM
Quote from: Garry on February 20, 2014, 01:36:06 PM
Quote from: Jacob on February 20, 2014, 10:33:59 AM
What about funnel & 1/2 tbsp?

My problem with using a funnel is; after you've sanitized the funnel, it's wet. Add a tsp of sugar and your lucky if a 1/4 tsp gets into the bottle :x

You can let the funnel dry after sanitizing but that requires preparation  :P
You can always get ss funnel, spray it with spirit and burn it.
However I never did that :P
Title: Re: Someone with a Pill Press
Post by: LordEoin on February 20, 2014, 06:39:26 PM
and that's why carb drops are so convenient  ;D
Title: Re: Someone with a Pill Press
Post by: mr hoppy on February 20, 2014, 10:16:51 PM
(Mostly) joking, but in a certain light this thread looks even dodgier than the guy trying to flog a still.
Title: Re: Someone with a Pill Press
Post by: DEMPSEY on February 21, 2014, 01:11:01 AM
Well if the drug squad are reading this may I ask them not to come bursting through the doors without first reading the whole thread.  :P
Title: Re: Someone with a Pill Press
Post by: Eoin on February 21, 2014, 09:35:25 AM
Deadly idea, NHC sugar pills with Mitsubishi logos lol

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