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Title: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: imark on February 27, 2014, 09:30:07 PM
Guys, March 8th brew day schedule to fill the LBLB:

Batches of 22L, 33L, and 44L as specified by Tube here: http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.com/forum/index.php/topic,4806.msg74194.html#msg74194 (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.com/forum/index.php/topic,4806.msg74194.html#msg74194)

Recipe is 2:1 Pale:Wheat + a 60min addition of debittered old noble hops of your choice and a 2hr boil. We have the 'special' culture :-X which will be pitched in primary and fermentation will be done in the barrel.

I recommend using the following wyeast lambic mash schedule:

22L batch:
~55g hop addition @60min

33L batch
~85g hop addition @60min

44L batch
~110g hop addition @60min
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: Dodge on March 02, 2014, 05:53:36 PM
For those that may have an issue following the above mash Schedule, here is an alternative done by mashing all the grain with as little water added at dough in to allow boiling water to be added at each step to achieve the desired temp. (this is because most may have a standard size mashtun coolerbox)

step mash like following
Dough in at 45c for 15min
Rest at 50c for 15 min
Rest at 65c for 45min
Rest at 70c for 30 min
Mash out  76c and sparge with 88c water


Title: Re: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: imark on March 03, 2014, 04:06:36 PM
I saw what may be a useful tip in this months Zymurgy...

If you don't have aged hops you can cheat by baking in the oven on parchment paper @71C for 6 hours.
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: imark on March 03, 2014, 04:19:59 PM
We can get by on that but we could use up to 2-2.5kg imo.
Imagine the smell in the kitchen  O0
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: irish_goat on March 03, 2014, 04:20:43 PM
I have 500g of pretty old looking Columbus if you'se want them. Can bring them to Dublin this Sunday.
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: lordstilton on March 05, 2014, 10:14:07 PM
Is that grain bill weight correct? What OG do you expect? Should the pilsner be 0.352kg for a 22l batch?
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: imark on March 05, 2014, 10:16:40 PM
Quote from: lordstilton on March 05, 2014, 10:14:07 PM
Is that grain bill weight correct? What OG do you expect? Should the pilsner be 0.352kg for a 22l batch?
Don't forget step 3
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: lordstilton on March 05, 2014, 11:34:28 PM
D'oh
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: Rossa on March 06, 2014, 09:05:55 AM
What's the og?
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: imark on March 06, 2014, 09:42:29 AM
Conservative estimate would be in the mid 1.050's. I've read the wyeast mash schedule I set out can acheive very high efficiency (~90%)
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: imark on March 06, 2014, 09:50:12 AM
So which mash schedule are people using?
imark: wyeast mash
Dodge: step infusion mash
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: mcgrath on March 06, 2014, 10:54:25 AM
I'd say step. I can't see how I can achieve 100 degrees in the mashtun.

Quote from: imark on March 06, 2014, 09:50:12 AM
So which mash schedule are people using?
imark: wyeast mash
Dodge: step infusion mash
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: imark on March 06, 2014, 10:59:19 AM
I'll be doing it in kettle and transfer to mash tun for the 2hr rest at 70C. Only way to do it.
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: mcgrath on March 06, 2014, 12:19:15 PM
I guess you've a gas burner? Don't think my electric elements would survive that method.
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: Dodge on March 06, 2014, 12:24:07 PM
Since I have kettle elements in the boiler I'm confined to using the step mash. I wouldn't want to try and end up scorching the grain and carry over any off flavours. Those on gas would find it easier or I'd the element is not in direct contact with the grain.

If you had a coil placed in the mashtun and could run boiling water through it from a boiler that would work?
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: imark on March 06, 2014, 12:26:00 PM
I use induction hob so I can do it. Gas will work too. Thought you were gas. You're in same boat as Dodge so. Pity.
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: imark on March 06, 2014, 02:22:52 PM
Quote from: Tube on March 06, 2014, 02:20:23 PM
^ Are you "borrowing" gas for the day?
Me? No. I'll bring my induction setup.
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: mcgrath on March 06, 2014, 03:34:45 PM
I can get a burner but not the propane tank. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: mcgrath on March 06, 2014, 04:12:46 PM
Quote from: Tube on March 06, 2014, 03:41:28 PM
No, you'd need to borrow the tank aswell!
His tank isn't portable. I looked up 11kg prices. Looks like 33 for a fill and 33 for a tank if you don't have an empty. Bit steep.
http://www.flogas.ie/index.php?id=1114
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: mcgrath on March 06, 2014, 07:34:01 PM
Ok I have gas. Estimated 4kg. But that might be wrong. I'm willing to give it a punt though.
I'll bring my electric if it runs out.
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: mcgrath on March 06, 2014, 08:46:53 PM
I'll check. I have the option of a full bottle which weighs 80 kilo approx. But it sounds like hastle.
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: imark on March 06, 2014, 09:10:45 PM
We probably won't need all burners going at same time anyway so I'd say you'll be grand.
What's earliest I'll be welcome tube? Long day... Start at daybreak!
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: imark on March 06, 2014, 09:47:34 PM
Lovely! Might see if I can get a fold up table in argos.
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: imark on March 06, 2014, 10:10:31 PM
Grand job. Anything else you need a hand with?
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: mcgrath on January 01, 2015, 03:58:38 PM
So do we plan on doing another brew to get a Gueuze going?
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: lordstilton on January 01, 2015, 04:10:45 PM
Need a barrel first
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: imark on January 02, 2015, 09:47:11 PM
Alternatively we could harvest 1/3 from the barrel and top up with fresh wort to do a solera.

We'll get a sample to try soon and take it from there.
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel Recipe
Post by: mcgrath on January 02, 2015, 09:54:20 PM
Quote from: imark on January 02, 2015, 09:47:11 PM
Alternatively we could harvest 1/3 from the barrel and top up with fresh wort to do a solera.

We'll get a sample to try soon and take it from there.
Cool..