I know if you can realy call it cider but found this recipe in a book and i love pineapple so will give it a try the comming days. this is the recipe directly from the book True Brews written by Emma Christensen.
The recipe for 1 gallon copied from the book:
1 very ripe pineapple
14 cups water
1 cup / 8 ounces grated piloncillo or dark brown sugar. (this is unrefined hole canesugar).
1 cinnamon stick
2 cloves
1 campden tablet
1.5 tsp liquid belgian ale yeast (half a tube)
1 tsp yeast nutrient
1 tsp acid blend ( i think citric acid or some lemon juice)
0.5 tsp pectic enzyme
and splenda to back sweeten and some normal sugar to prime.
I will update this thread when I start with this brew :)..
I have T58 yeast that I cannot remember why I got it but thinking it might be useful for a recipe like this :-\
Is you real name Greg by any chance, or do you have any Irish cousins?
Quote from: CH on March 12, 2014, 04:49:55 PM
Is you real name Greg by any chance, or do you have any Irish cousins?
:P :P :P
Insert mad scientist laugh here >:D
Somehow I don't see you as a mad scientist more of..well... but we still love you just the same 8)
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what i posted is the original recipe that i got from a book and did some shopping today and got most of the stuff I needed but the yeast is going to be a problem. I will post the recipe that I have used with some pictures and a descripton how the brew is progressing :).. I had most of the ingredients at home and had to get some but will share my own recipe and how to here :).. I probably can get the yeast that is mentioned here but to not to spend to much money and use my own fantasy and experiance to make this brew i will give it my own twist on this recipe..
I managed to get a nice big pineapple today and the herbs (cinamon and cloves) and start the brew on friday or saturday.. This partly because of time and the pineappple that i could get now is not quite ripe enough..
so I just wanted to share the basic recipe and my own version and taste test will follow.. It probably need some tweaking but that will happen in a few weeks..
I wanted to share this recipe because i thought it used exiting fruit and flavors :).. If it will be a "cider" i dont know but i hope it will be drinkable :)
Could you shortcut this and just use pineapple juice (Pineapple Turbo Cider)? ;D
When a recipe calls for "acid blend" its usually a 50/50 mix of citric and malic acids. Malic is the acid from apples!. If you cannot get it suggest you crush up a couple of Bramleys (the universal sour cooking apple - easy to get in .nl)
Also you may need to add tannin: a few english tea bags steeped for 20 mins in a cup of boiling water.
tnx for the advise will :) I have some tannine powder at home that came with my starterskit and always use a cup of strong english tea :).. I did not know about the acid blend i thought it was just citric acid but will put in some apple :)..
Dunkel probably can use pinapple juice as a shortcut but bought a big pineapple for €1.50 and this is for 5 liter.. If i have to buy the juice from carton need 4/5 cartons so it will be a bit more expensive..
bought a pineapple and herbs yesterday and the pineapple needs to ripen a bit so expect that that will take an other two days before I will realy start :).. I will also use some cider yeast because have that at home.. I can get liquid yeast but this will set me back €7.. for me its just a little experiment now and when I have some results i can tweak the recipe a bit and will go for a 25 iter brew and I think its worth to get the yeast..
What's the advantage of using malic acid as opposed to citric acid in a brew like this ? Is one better than the other and why ? ;D
Quote from: Greg2013 on March 13, 2014, 09:43:34 AM
What's the advantage of using malic acid as opposed to citric acid in a brew like this ? Is one better than the other and why ? ;D
Its about flavours: Sharp Lemony versus Sour Apple.
It is supposed to be a cider so some apple would probably be appropriate.
There is also Tartaric acid which is the acid occuring in grapes
Came home today and was welcomed with the sweet smell of a ripe pineapple so it was time to start.. got two big cooking apples the best i could get at this moment and had the herbs and other stuff at home..
5 liter water
1 ripe pineapple
2 cooking apples
400 gram unrefined canesugar
1 cinamon stick
2 cloves
litte bit of sulphite
0.5 pack of cider yeast
1 tsp yeast nutrient
0.5 tsp citric acid
0.5 tsp pectic enzyme
1 cup of strong tea for the tannin.
sanitized my 10 liter fermenting bucket and threw in 400 grams sugar poured over some boiling water and desolved the sugar. Then topped it off to 5 liter with cold water. Gave my fruit a nice bath of clean water and cleaned it well.
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cut of the top and bottom of the pineapple and cut the rest of the pineapple in pieces with the skin on and cut the apples and added this to the sugar water. then added the stick of cinamon, 2 cloves and some sulphite (campden) gave it a good stir.
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I did not take a reading because it fell on the ground and there is a bit of a crack in it :(..
will leave the bucket for about 24 hrs to sterilize the fruit.
Do you want an umbrella with that luv :)
I wil wait for a few days first when it contains some alcohol ;)
the next day made a yeast starter and a strong cup of thee. added it together with the pectine, citric acid and yeast nutrient..
Its all bubbling nicely
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Looks interesting. Where did you pick up a 10ltr fermenter with a tap, wanted one for a good while
I love a little experiment now and then and found this quite exiting because i love pineapple and its a quite easy brew using pieces of fruit and not juice.
I bought this last year at my local brew shop.. I checked and they only have 15, 25 and 30 liter buckets now..
I ordered it to do some small projects to experiment a bit.. I also use it to bottle wine but cant find the 10 liter anymore :(
Racked the cider the quick and dirty way today. I saw a lot of slush at the bottom the dead yeast and small pieces of pineapple so put my bucket up and put my DJ under the tap and just let it run out. I did not want to have the risk of clogging my syphon and was hoping on the extra bit of juice from the fruit. And it turned out very well have a lot of fruit left and a nice full bottle :).
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Pineapple is strange stuff. It has an enzyme in it that attacks protein. It was impossible to make a proper pineapple jelly until Heston Blumenthal came up with a technique to add a little fresh chili. Not sure what application that has to brewing except that it might affect the protein content of the yeast and damage it. Was it easy to ferment out? Did it take off fast?
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And pineapple is a strange fruit but made some wine last year with fresh juice and that came out great..
the fermentation was quite slow but took off in about 12 hours.. Then saw the first pieces of fruit floating up and down and some realy small pieces.
after that it gave a lot of big bubbles on top of the fruit and that died off in about 3 days and then only some small bubbles at the bottom at the fruit and the sediment was building up.
will now leave it for 4 weeks and then bottle and have a taste..
and if it tastes like shit then it was a nice experiment to do and it and lost about 3 euro on the fruit :P
and if it turns out well then going to try some other combinations tropical fruit. Pineapple with mango and put in a red chilli to give it a bit of a kick. Probably can think of a lot of other combinations or fruits to try :)
I think that all the acid in the pineapple and the apple started a malic. It still smells great but it has a strange almost like powder foam on the cider..
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I hope that the fresh pineapples are still on sale the last time they where €2.50 for two pineapples.. So will get 4 today and go for a 20 liter batch :)
An interesting fact about pineapple juice. If you drink 2litres of pineapple juice and blow into a breathalyser you will fail.
Quote from: Chris on March 28, 2014, 09:19:55 AM
An interesting fact about pineapple juice. If you drink 2litres of pineapple juice and blow into a breathalyser you will fail.
You do realise that you have now come up with a defence for court. Reasonable doubt is what this is. "Yes your honour,I consume pinapple because of its health benefits". "what benefits are they"asks the judge. "My wallet does not have a cardiac arrest from drinking fines and my wife does'nt kill me". :P
Quote from: DEMPSEY on March 28, 2014, 12:02:44 PM
Quote from: Chris on March 28, 2014, 09:19:55 AM
An interesting fact about pineapple juice. If you drink 2litres of pineapple juice and blow into a breathalyser you will fail.
You do realise that you have now come up with a defence for court. Reasonable doubt is what this is. "Yes your honour,I consume pinapple because of its health benefits". "what benefits are they"asks the judge. "My wallet does not have a cardiac arrest from drinking fines and my wife does'nt kill me". :P
unfortunately no. It only works on the roadside test and it must be consumed immediately before taking the test.
Garda: do you mind blowing into this.
You: gees Garda I'm parched, I'll just knock back this 2litre of pineapple juice.
Some UCD students came up with and tested it when the mandatory alcohol testing came in.
Inmagine comming back from the gym had some nice pineapple juice and get pulled over on the way back home.. LOL
But just went to the market and they had realy big pineapples for 2 euro a piece. So could not resist and bought 4 and just put them on a scale and combined they are 11 kg :o
I think i will be left with about 10 kilo when cut of the top and the bottom..
I was planning for a bigger batch of 20 liters but I think this is enough to make 40 liter ^-^
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any word on this lampie
just botteld it today will leave it for an other week to carbonate and have a taste test :)..
With the other pineapples I made a 2x20 liter that is still in secondary and will leave those for a few weeks :)
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