Hi. First post here. :)
I am on my 3rd kit brew and I am about to start the Cooper's European Lager.
I would like to make it my own with regards to taste and experiment with tastes.
I have purchased the Brew Enhanser 2 which is 500g dextrose,250g maltodextrin,& 250g of light DME.
I like the taste of Pilsner Urquell .
What could I add to the mix to bring my brew into the same ball park?
https://www.thehomebrewcompany.ie/better-brew-finishing-hops-hallertauer-hersbrucker-p-1271.html
These hersbucker finishing hops will give you that pilsner taste your looking for
Or Saaz
Quote from: CH on March 16, 2014, 08:00:16 PM
Or Saaz
How much and at what intervals would you suggest for that pilsner taste ? ;D
would one simply throw it into the bucket on the primary stage?
Get about 2 liters of water and bring it to a boil.
Add about 20g of whatever hop you chose (i'd go with the saaz) and boil it for 10 minutes.
Strain/seive it into the FV, using it as your hot water for mixing the kit can.
Remember though that this kit comes with a proper lager yeast, so you'll need to ferment it at about 12-14C.
It will take longer to ferment, and don't get scared if your house stinks like rotting eggs for a few days.
If you want to dryhop it, do it after about a week.
Let it ferment out for about two weeks, then move it to secondary and let it sit for another 2 or 3 weeks as cold as your fridge will go to lager it.
Welcome to the incredibly slow world of lager ;D
I had a reply posted but i deleted it as i think for your first time Lords suggestion is better. ;D You could also if you wanted follow the guidline below for a different way of dry hopping, however i agree with Lord use the Saaz.
http://www.homebrewwest.ie/better-brew-finishing-hop-pellet-teabags-207-c.asp
Thanks. I have been brewing in the downstairs bathroom ??? but the temperature is around 21.
I guess we could expect the weather to stay around 15 for the next month or so. I have a shaded shed. I might leave it out there to do its stuff.
I ordered the saaz and Hallertauer Hersbrucker tea bags. Few more days to wait for the delivery .
Quote from: wheelspin on March 16, 2014, 09:00:06 PM
Thanks. I have been brewing in the downstairs bathroom ??? but the temperature is around 21.
I guess we could expect the weather to stay around 15 for the next month or so. I have a shaded shed. I might leave it out there to do its stuff.
I ordered the saaz and Hallertauer Hersbrucker tea bags. Few more days to wait for the delivery .
Wjeelspin small bit of advice, 15 celsius is too high for a lager, you really need it nearer 12 celsius. Whats the coldest place in the house and what temp is it at usually ? Can you find room in the fridge for this brew ?
No. But may just keep an eye open for a second hand fridge for the shed. I have power out there.
Quote from: wheelspin on March 16, 2014, 09:40:48 PM
No. But may just keep an eye open for a second hand fridge for the shed. I have power out there.
Good idea, you need fermentation temperature control but in the case of lagers you need to force it down a bit further which in an Irish climate often means finding an old working fridge, best of luck. ;D
Happydays..
I have acquired a free fridge . Saved from the dump.. Works fine and cleans up like new. I cant get my FV bucket into it for Lager brewing, but it will fit all the 500ml bottles with ease. And looks awesome as well.
I think the shed is cool enough for a few week of primary at this time of year. Although today it was 16 degrees at midday ..
Have a look at this dream machine .. I can peel the advertising stickers of it and the strip lighting turns off(although the inside light just adds to it glory!). Now I have to convince the wife that it is very positive to keep it indoors.. ;)
(http://s22.postimg.org/7zc31qz29/20140319_183426_resized1.jpg)
So I got the hop teabag. Got both but went with the saaz.
Boiled it up for 10 and added the water to the first mix..
The instructions say to leave it in the FV . Its in there now, in an cold bath.
What are your feeling on leaving it in there for a few weeks. Would it make it over powering? Should I fish it out?
Most people say anything more than a week could give you grassy flavours. Although, at lagering temperatures, I reckon you will probably get away with it for a few weeks.
Thanks Garry. You have been very helpful to me so far. As has everyone on here. great site!
:)
Holy god... SWMBO's going to cut your nuts off when you try to convince her that the fridge belongs in the kitchen ;D
Quote from: LordEoin on March 25, 2014, 10:45:57 PM
Holy god... SWMBO's going to cut your nuts off when you try to convince her that the fridge belongs in the kitchen ;D
The kitchen. No way is she sticking the veg and pork chops into my new fridge.
I took it apart and reconstructed it in the attic, where I watch sports in my arm chair away from screaming kids.
The attic and the garage. Where all good man fridges should be. 8)
(http://s21.postimg.org/a8udgs9hj/20140319_215252.jpg)
that looks nice all cleaned up :)
Sorry to be asking all these questions but im having a problem with my euro lager.
Its been outside in the shed for 2 days now in primary fermentation and seems to be doing nothing. No bubbles , no airlock activity.
Its about 8 degrees outside in the shed. I pitched the yeasts at around 18c
I was expecting to see it start by now.
It's way too cold, yeast goes dormant at that temp.
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Thanks. Indoors now in the warm. I hope I have not damaged the process :(
a very getle stir with a sterilised spoon
Hey. Quick question.
Is it normal for these lagers to stay in primary for so long? Been over 17 days now. It is carbonated in the sample glass and bubbling .
still sitting a 1.010.
Tastes quite nice .
lower temperatures, slower yeast, longer time. perfectly normal :)
Wow. At this rate, it will not be ready till mid summer after the recommended 12 weeks in the bottle. :o
lager is a labor of love.
And you'll drink 'em fast in the summer if the sun comes out ;)
Hey. I bottled yesterday, after nearly 1 month of primary.
The bottles are in the beer fridge and sitting at 6 degrees. Its the highest temp I can get the fridge to go to with the current stat.
Would this temperature be OK for bottle conditioning?
After a quick taste, the Saaz hop tea was a great addition. Already it is drinkable pre primed.
I currently have 80 pints of ale and lager either conditioning of primary. And not a drop to drink. Bad timing.
unplug the fridge and open the door (or remove them from the fridge) for a couple of weeks.
They need warmth for the yeast to eat the priming sugar and carbonate the beer.
Then put them in the fridge as low as it will go.