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Brewing Discussions => All Grain Brewing => Topic started by: irish_goat on March 25, 2014, 12:05:35 PM

Title: Rye Beer
Post by: irish_goat on March 25, 2014, 12:05:35 PM
Uncharted water for me here folks, the brother has tasked me with making a rye beer, he's a massive fan of Dungarvan Mahon Falls, Kinnegar Rustbucket and SN Ruthless Rye. Problem is I can't stand rye beer as it always tastes too "nutty" for me. I can appreciate that the above are decent beers though. Anyone got any decent tips/recipes? I'm thinking I can just make a good APA and sub in 10-15% rye malt?
Title: Re: Rye Beer
Post by: Kieran the Human on March 25, 2014, 01:13:36 PM
http://www.theelectricbrewery.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26124

There's a clone of ruthless rye to give you a reference point - i've only used rye in a saison at 9% of the grist - turned out nice but I'd double it if I was doing it again
Title: Re: Rye Beer
Post by: mcgrath on March 25, 2014, 01:29:02 PM
Really want to do a rye ale myself. I heard the rye needs to be flaked.
Title: Re: Rye Beer
Post by: St. Fursey on March 25, 2014, 01:47:07 PM
Mill it separately from the rest of your grain.  You need a finer mill for the rye

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Title: Re: Rye Beer
Post by: sub82 on March 25, 2014, 02:55:21 PM
I've been using flaked rye (15-20%) in a few recent beers - gives great body and a subtle rye flavour in the background. Gonna try substituting in some rye malt next to up the flavour.

Some info. here:

BYO (http://byo.com/stout/item/326-brewing-with-rye-tips-from-the-pros)
More Beer (http://morebeer.com/brewingtechniques/library/backissues/issue1.3/hayden.html)
Title: Re: Rye Beer
Post by: irish_goat on March 25, 2014, 02:59:38 PM
HBW are sold out of rye, HBC only have crushed or roasted (assuming it's not flaked).  :-\

Will see what recipe I can muster up on Beersmith later.
Title: Re: Rye Beer
Post by: imark on March 25, 2014, 04:16:04 PM
I've done a couple of rye beers recently. I've used rye malt only but I can say the following:
rye pale is good
rye stout is bad!
Title: Re: Rye Beer
Post by: beanstalk on March 11, 2015, 08:47:28 PM
Sorry to revive an old thread, but I think I'd like to try a rye beer at the weekend. How did you find it Irish_goat?

I like the look of that Sierra Nevada Recipe mentioned at the top of this thread (http://www.theelectricbrewery.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26124 (http://www.theelectricbrewery.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26124))

I have similiar stuff here at home so I could definitely give it a go (pale, chocolate, crystal 180, rye malt, amarillo, citra, chinook)

I don't have columbus, but would mosaic or cascade make a good substitute?

Title: Re: Rye Beer
Post by: sub82 on March 11, 2015, 11:01:08 PM
Mosaic would be a good substitution wouldn't be the same flavour as Columbus but it's a cracker hop!

I've tried that electric brewery recipe and it turned out well. Go easy on the chocolate malt if you include it at all! Our beer turned out much darker than planned and even had a bit of roastiness which wasn't awful but I think the beer would've been better without.
Title: Re: Rye Beer
Post by: beanstalk on March 11, 2015, 11:40:24 PM
Cheers! I know all too well the dangers of too much chocolate malt, tried two red ales recently which turned out almost black!



Title: Re: Rye Beer
Post by: Qs on March 12, 2015, 10:26:41 AM
It'll be really dark if you're using C180 too.
Title: Re: Rye Beer
Post by: beanstalk on March 12, 2015, 12:07:18 PM
Yeah. Its a shame but I gotta use it up. Will do up a recipe in beersmith over the weekend and see what I can get away with.
Title: Re: Rye Beer
Post by: Qs on March 12, 2015, 01:05:25 PM
I don't really get much of the Rye from Ruthless anyway, the crystal and choc overwhelm it.
Title: Re: Rye Beer
Post by: tipp brewer on March 14, 2015, 10:04:21 PM
I did a rye ale yesterday.
hopeful of a nice beer, only my 2nd all grain.
5kg marris otter
500 g rye malt
400g crystal 15
100g carapils

ek goldings 20g  60 mins
Columbus 30g    30mins
Columbus 30g    1 min

safale 05
in the fermentor now with a good krausen so fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Rye Beer
Post by: bantamflush on March 16, 2015, 11:06:57 AM
Quote from: tipp brewer on March 14, 2015, 10:04:21 PM
I did a rye ale yesterday.
hopeful of a nice beer, only my 2nd all grain.
5kg marris otter
500 g rye malt
400g crystal 15
100g carapils

ek goldings 20g  60 mins
Columbus 30g    30mins
Columbus 30g    1 min

safale 05
in the fermentor now with a good krausen so fingers crossed.

How did this turn out? I'm looking to do a rye ale myself.
Title: Re: Rye Beer
Post by: TheSumOfAllBeers on March 16, 2015, 02:08:46 PM
Probably not enough rye to bring out its character, I aim for 40% +, the rye character is subtle.
20% would be a minimum, as long as the remaining grist restrained in flavour.

Looks like a very solid pale ale recipe thoufh
Title: Re: Rye Beer
Post by: beanstalk on March 17, 2015, 03:20:08 PM
Thanks folks, here's the one I ended up putting on, stupidly measured 3kg pale malt instead of 4kg so had to write in the changes. There was also an addition of 5g mosaic at 10mins.

Fermenting away happily now though...

Split it into two batches, one to be dryhopped with amarillo, the other with citra, just to see if there's much difference.

(http://i.imgur.com/miVVPRr.jpg?1)

Title: Re: Rye Beer
Post by: beanstalk on March 23, 2015, 05:41:11 PM
Fingers crossed and bottled today.

(http://i.imgur.com/9AEW9tF.jpg?1)

FG: 1.004
Title: Re: Rye Beer
Post by: helmet on March 23, 2015, 06:25:25 PM
Great name!
Title: Re: Rye Beer
Post by: beanstalk on March 28, 2015, 06:38:56 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ZYvzWt4.jpg)
Couldn't wait. Saw the yeast had cleaned it up so gave one a go.

Definite spicy rye taste, with a tiny bitterness but overwhelmed by this blueberry yoghurt aroma from the Amarillo and mosaic hops. Beautiful head on it too. Can't wait to try it next week when its fully matured, but right now I could happily drink it!  .beerrock