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Brewing Discussions => Cider, Perry, Wine & Mead => Topic started by: rje66 on April 03, 2014, 10:07:02 PM

Title: how strong is my cider?
Post by: rje66 on April 03, 2014, 10:07:02 PM
just wondering how to get  a strength of my cider without having taking an initial reading?
Title: Re: how strong is my cider?
Post by: Tom on April 03, 2014, 10:14:54 PM
If you used applejuice from Tesco or somewhere you can figure it out using the nutritional information on the carton.

For pressed or anonymous apple juice, you'll have to do what Tube said.

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Title: Re: how strong is my cider?
Post by: mr hoppy on April 03, 2014, 10:30:05 PM
Technically, if you take a refractometer reading as well as a hydrometer reading you should be able to reverse engineer the OG although it mightn't be super accurate.
Title: Re: how strong is my cider?
Post by: Garry on April 03, 2014, 11:26:52 PM
Quote from: mr happy on April 03, 2014, 10:30:05 PM
Technically, if you take a refractometer reading as well as a hydrometer reading you should be able to reverse engineer the OG although it mightn't be super accurate.

How does that work?
Title: Re: how strong is my cider?
Post by: mr hoppy on April 03, 2014, 11:42:35 PM
A refractometer is calibrated based on the refractive index of sugar, rather than the ethanol in your fermented beer. As the hydrometer measures the sugar more directly, if you've measured both with a refractometer and a hydrometer in fermented alcohol you should be able to triangulate back to the original sugar content. I think you can do this in Beer Smith. Of course the question is how good accurate the formulae are. I know tube's questioned them in the past. Worth a try in this case - and at least of passing interest in a geeky way.
Title: Re: how strong is my cider?
Post by: Tom on April 04, 2014, 08:57:58 AM
Doesn't the ethanol mess around with the refractometer reading? I heard they were useless once fermentation had begun.
Title: Re: how strong is my cider?
Post by: rje66 on April 06, 2014, 11:30:36 AM
thanks for replies. was only wondering how strong it was  out of curiosity, its made from a random collection of apples. will get proper readings next season.
Title: Re: how strong is my cider?
Post by: Tom on April 06, 2014, 11:51:27 AM
Expect about 5 - 6 %, it's quite normal for home pressed stuff with no extra sugar or water.
Title: Re: how strong is my cider?
Post by: LordEoin on April 06, 2014, 03:52:18 PM
use a drop of food dye and a vinometer

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