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Brewing Discussions => Equipment & Chemicals => Topic started by: Dr Jacoby on April 08, 2014, 12:43:07 PM

Title: Bergland no longer deliver to Ireland/UK
Post by: Dr Jacoby on April 08, 2014, 12:43:07 PM
A lot of people used to source large stainless steal pots from Bergland on ebay (and by email) but in January they stopped delivering outside Germany/Austria. There are some threads on the UK forums about it:

http://www.thehomebrewforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=43348

http://www.thehomebrewforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=43040

It's a real pity because they had great prices and cheap delivery. It seems the most popular alternatives are:

Powell Brewing
http://powellbrewing.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=61

HomeBrewBuilder
http://homebrewbuilder.co.uk/hlts%20&%20kettles.html

Angel Homebrewing
http://www.angelhomebrew.co.uk/en/6-stockpots
Title: Re: Bergland no longer deliver to Ireland/UK
Post by: Hop Bomb on April 08, 2014, 01:59:16 PM
I wonder what the story is there? Did someone make him an offer to deal direct with one person in UK or something?

We'll end up paying waaaaay more now. 75 GBP for 100 litre pot. I payed 55 euro. Pr!cks.
Title: Re: Bergland no longer deliver to Ireland/UK
Post by: Eoin on April 08, 2014, 02:01:35 PM
Once they deal with local suppliers they agree not to encroach on their markets to allow them exclusive access and to justify their mark-ups.

It's the same with a lot of stuff. Try to buy direct from HB UK, you'll be redirected to the local agents here.
Title: Re: Bergland no longer deliver to Ireland/UK
Post by: Hop Bomb on April 08, 2014, 02:10:46 PM
Same deal with my screen print machine manufacturer in USA. I used to deal direct with them. Now I have to deal with a new UK dealer who has taken the dollar price, turned it to GBP & added VAT on top so spare parts & add ons are almost 50% more expensive now. I just have a US friend order them now for me & ship them here.

Re: Bergland - If you want to still buy from them Ive a few good mates in Germany. They wouldnt mind sending on a parcel to you from there if you cover the cost of p&p (wouldnt be too much as they get good rates there - they ship lots of records & tees through their courier company so get a good rate)
Title: Re: Bergland no longer deliver to Ireland/UK
Post by: Dr Jacoby on April 08, 2014, 02:15:47 PM
Sound Tom, might take you up on that offer!

And what about your friend in the States?  ;)
Title: Re: Bergland no longer deliver to Ireland/UK
Post by: Hop Bomb on April 08, 2014, 02:25:56 PM
Quote from: Dr Jacoby on April 08, 2014, 02:15:47 PM
Sound Tom, might take you up on that offer!

And what about your friend in the States?  ;)

Yeah that can be arranged too. He sent over a blichmann burner & plate chiller recently. I had taytos & tea bags delivered to him in San Francisco from a US company as a thank you haha.
Title: Re: Bergland no longer deliver to Ireland/UK
Post by: Dr Jacoby on April 08, 2014, 02:26:51 PM
Haha, that's globalisation for ya
Title: Re: Bergland no longer deliver to Ireland/UK
Post by: LordEoin on April 08, 2014, 02:28:59 PM
all we need now  is someone in china to post over all those 2cent electronic components :D
Title: Re: Bergland no longer deliver to Ireland/UK
Post by: Dr Jacoby on April 08, 2014, 02:30:47 PM
The NHC oriental express...
Title: Re: Bergland no longer deliver to Ireland/UK
Post by: Ozbrewer on April 08, 2014, 05:28:52 PM
Try the US version of parcel motel - www.shipito.com

You can use their postal address in Austria to get things shipped to Ireland.

I've used it for purchases in the US several times now and works a treat.
Title: Re: Bergland no longer deliver to Ireland/UK
Post by: DEMPSEY on April 08, 2014, 05:32:29 PM
How does posting it via Austria work out cost wise. :-\
Title: Re: Bergland no longer deliver to Ireland/UK
Post by: Ozbrewer on April 08, 2014, 05:40:33 PM
@dempsey - not sure. Think it costs about 10us to have the address is Austria + postage from Bergland to Austria + postage to Ireland.

Someone who is interested will work out soon enough if that's cheaper than buying from a UK supplier or one in Ireland if there is one.
Title: Re: Bergland no longer deliver to Ireland/UK
Post by: Dr Jacoby on April 08, 2014, 05:48:30 PM
I looked at shipito before and once I added all the costs together it seemed quite expensive. Do you reckon it's worth it for US purchases?
Title: Re: Bergland no longer deliver to Ireland/UK
Post by: Ozbrewer on April 08, 2014, 05:58:50 PM
I think it's worth it. I was just looking at my account there. Recollection is I paid 10us for the account to set it up. Then the only real cost is the courier you select to ship onto to Ireland, oh and the 1Us dollar for mail out they charge you.

When you look at your account you can select from several shipito locations, including the one in austria.

Where it is good is if there is a supplier that won't ship outside the US. I bought all my stainless fittings in the US, got it posted to shipito address fairly cheaply and then picked the cheapest but fastest courier to ireland. In this case DHL and they stung me for duty.  Had I gone USPS that would have been less likely apparently. Also, Amazon and ebay appear to be adding all the customs costs automatically now so I think you can get it shipped to shipito and forward on from there, in some cases free shipping in the staes if your a Prime customer or something. Some will need to verify the amazon bit, but that's my understanding without any deep research on it. 
Title: Re: Bergland no longer deliver to Ireland/UK
Post by: bigvalen on October 25, 2015, 08:24:01 PM
Seems they ship to Ireland again. Anyone bought from them recently, and know if the shipping is sensible ? Dead curious if folks have added thermometers or sight volume gauges ?
Title: Re: Bergland no longer deliver to Ireland/UK
Post by: armedcor on October 25, 2015, 08:41:21 PM
This was the prices back in Jan...probably hasn't changed much.

10222 - Stock pot 12 litre - 17,90 EUR + shipping fees (UK) - 11,90 EUR
10219 - Stock pot 21 litre - 22,90 EUR + shipping fees (UK) - 11,90 EUR
10223 - Stock pot 33 litre - 30,50 EUR + shipping fees (UK) - 11,90 EUR
10220 - Stock pot 50 litre - 39,90 EUR + shipping fees (UK) - 13,90 EUR
10224 - Stock pot 70 litre - 44,90 EUR + shipping fees (UK) - 13,90 EUR
10221 - Stock pot 100 litre - 52,90 EUR + shipping fees (UK) - 13,90 EUR

Thermo pot without tap:

10465 - Thermo pot 6 litre - 31,50 EUR + shipping fees (UK) - 11,90 EUR
10225 - Thermo pot 12 litre - 39,90 EUR + shipping fees (UK) - 11,90 EUR
10226 - Thermo pot 20,5 litre - 50,50 EUR + shipping fees (UK) - 13,90 EUR
10227 - Thermo pot 32,5 litre - 60,50 EUR + shipping fees (UK) - 13,90 EUR
10228 - Thermo pot 50 litre - 74,50 EUR + shipping fees (UK) - 13,90 EUR
10229 - Thermo pot 60 litre - 83,90 EUR + shipping fees (UK) - 13,90 EUR
10230 - Thermo pot 80 litre - 111,90 EUR + shipping fees (UK) - 17,90 EUR

Thermo pot with tap:

10231 - Thermo pot 25 litre - 57,90 EUR + shipping fees (UK) - 13,90 EUR
10232 - Thermo pot 38,5 litre - 70,50 EUR + shipping fees (UK) - 13,90 EUR
10233 - Thermo pot 70 litre - 107,90 EUR + + shipping fees (UK) - 17,90 EUR
Title: Re: Bergland no longer deliver to Ireland/UK
Post by: Leann ull on October 25, 2015, 10:38:15 PM
bergland don't install thermometers etc thats angel or homebrew builder