Trying to get our hands on some sour cherries such as morellos with pits in.
I've found a few sources on ebay.de but they are all pitted and about 20 euros for 1kg.
I want pits and all....hard to source.
Anyone got any online sources? I'm pretty sure as well we could get some sort of group buy action going on.
http://www.buywholefoodsonline.co.uk/cherries-dried-morello-sour-w.s.-3kg.html
I found those with stone, but they are £61 without tax......something cheaper would be better.
Suggest you phone round the catering suppliers(food).
I am sure they should be available in large tins for the catering/cooking/cake making companys
In the case of rasberries for ecample Musgraves sell 2.5 kg of frozen for €10.
Compare that price to the super markets!
Check in Polish shops, they may have them frozen but without pits.
Quote from: Jacob on April 30, 2014, 10:36:18 AM
Check in Polish shops, they may have them frozen but without pits.
Yeah I've had a look in Netpol locally, but I want pits.
I'm checking in Smithfield market also.
www.caterway.ie do cherries in season, he reckons they would be extortionate at the moment but in season they will drop as low as 4-5 per KG in season.
Hi Eoin,
Thanks to a roundabout thread on Beor about Apricot Puree I found these listed by Pallas foods Dublin:
http://www.pallasfoods.eu/apps/foodbook/product/T130
and
http://www.pallasfoods.eu/apps/foodbook/product/F19Z
BTW they do do Apricot:
http://www.pallasfoods.eu/apps/foodbook/product/F2Z
Any chance you could have a word and see what the score is viz a viz cash sales etc. or maybe a small group but.
They also do raspberry and blackberry
Wonder what's in the cherry puree?
The tinned ones are black cherry so not what you would want. They're readily available.
Quote from: imark on May 03, 2014, 02:38:22 PM
Wonder what's in the cherry puree?
The tinned ones are black cherry so not what you would want. They're readily available.
No pits though Mark.
I always believe that Morello is the sour cooking cherry!
Suggest you phone and ask about the puree and the tinned MC. Puree will be pit free and I bet the tinns will contain pits.
BTW: If you really want the cyanide flavour then use apricot kernels!
Yes: Cherry stones and apricot stones do contain low level cyanides!
Tinned are around 70% fruit
Puree is 88% fruit
Quote from: Will_D on May 03, 2014, 06:22:08 PM
I always believe that Morello is the sour cooking cherry!
Suggest you phone and ask about the puree and the tinned MC. Puree will be pit free and I bet the tinns will contain pits.
BTW: If you really want the cyanide flavour then use apricot kernels!
Yes: Cherry stones and apricot stones do contain low level cyanides!
Yep I'm aware of the cyanide levels, it's traditional...
I'm just after appropriate cherry flavour. Couldn't give a rats as about cyanide.
Quote from: imark on May 03, 2014, 11:25:29 PM
I'm just after appropriate cherry flavour. Couldn't give a rats as about cyanide.
But it is part of the appropriate flavour.
Does it contribute much to the flavour? I wasn't aware it was part of the flavour to be honest.
What I'm trying to understand is just how critical the stones are because they seem to be the main stumbling block.
Well traditionally the krieken are left in the brew until the pits dissolve, so I'd imagine the contribution is quite high.
Cantillon has a hint of almond due to the pits.
A mix of Morello puree mixed with whole sweet cherry might be a good compromise.
I heard that about the stones dissolving before but I just assumed it's a myth. I had heard that they generally leave it on the fruit for 3 months. So one of the statements seems to contradict the other because I really doubt the stones are dissolved in that time.
I suppose we'll have to try various options ourselves and see how it turns out.
Another option would be to try some Peche. It's easy enough to source whole peaches....and considerably cheaper.
I'm heading down to the fruit and veg market during the week to have a chat with a supplier I know.. I'll let you know how I get on
I'm thinking group buy if he can help me out
Okay, I have one of the guys at work sourcing fresh morello for me.
Not something normally bought due to the limited market for them but the season is just starting so I will see what I can find.
I'll update when I hear anything.
Quote from: Snuff on May 06, 2014, 10:22:12 AM
Okay, I have one of the guys at work sourcing fresh morello for me.
Not something normally bought due to the limited market for them but the season is just starting so I will see what I can find.
I'll update when I hear anything.
Excellent Snuff, you da man.
Had a chat today with the guy in fruit and veg market.. He can get French sour cherries.. I'll have a price tomorrow.. Only thing is season doesn't start till next month.
Quote from: lordstilton on May 08, 2014, 11:59:24 AM
Had a chat today with the guy in fruit and veg market.. He can get French sour cherries.. I'll have a price tomorrow.. Only thing is season doesn't start till next month.
Excellent, sour will do either way, country of origin is irrelevant, we're also in no hurry, in fact they'll land in the freezer for a while anyway.
perfick my stinky cheesy friend. :)
Now the only problem may be price!
Top quality fruit goes into the retail market and even at wholesale prices they will be expensive
Lesser grades go into the processing factorys.
That is why apples are €2 a kilo in the super market but cider making apples are more like €100 a ton.
Quote from: Will_D on May 08, 2014, 01:22:08 PM
Now the only problem may be price!
Top quality fruit goes into the retail market and even at wholesale prices they will be expensive
Lesser grades go into the processing factorys.
That is why apples are €2 a kilo in the super market but cider making apples are more like €100 a ton.
They were never going to be cheap Will, I was quoted in-season cherries at 2-4 euros a kilo depending on high season.
Any update on sourcing and price?
No.. I'll be back down the market next week and should have an update
Popped into Aldi yesterday and they are selling bare-rooted Morrello Cheries ( Sour ones) for €5 a tree.
Also Apples/plums/pears.
Nice looking trees as well
So naturally I had to buy 2! ;)
I can't see them on the internet now that I going looking for them but I got dried sour plums awhile back from an ethnic food shop.
I've mostly been using them, and dried limes, to flavour rice (they stick them in when boiling it in places like Iran and Iraq) but I've been trying to think of a way of using them in beer. They are massively sour - almost like citric acid, and they've got stones.
Quote from: Will_D on February 27, 2015, 11:32:57 AM
Popped into Aldi yesterday and they are selling bare-rooted Morrello Cheries ( Sour ones) for €5 a tree.
Also Apples/plums/pears.
Nice looking trees as well
So naturally I had to buy 2! ;)
Those trees are quite good. I had fruit in the first year (although only a few and the birds got them)
I am going to enclose them in a Bird/Big-Fast-Bunny* Cage
*: BFB: Aka The Hare, we have the fekkers in the club, they are HUGH and they eat trees!