So doing a bit of rounding:
Recipe: NCB Quad
Style: Belgian Dark Strong Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 26.43 l
Post Boil Volume: 24.38 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 22.50 l
Bottling Volume: 22.50 l
Estimated OG: 1.083 SG
Estimated Color: 25.5 EBC
Estimated IBU: 20.8 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 75.6 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes
Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type
5.00 kg Pilsner (2 Row) Bel (3.9 EBC) Grain
1.50 kg Aromatic Malt (51.2 EBC) Grain
0.70 kg Biscuit Malt (45.3 EBC) Grain
1.00 kg Candi Sugar, Clear (1.0 EBC) Sugar
30.00 g Saaz [4.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop
30.00 g Perle [8.00 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop
So who is up for this as the next barrel?
1. Will_D
1. Will_D
2. Jacob
Next thing, are we ok with OG?
Quote from: Jacob on May 02, 2014, 10:30:50 AM
Next thing, are we ok with OG?
What - too low or too high?
WLP 500?
Quote from: Will_D on May 02, 2014, 10:35:16 AM
What - too low or too high?
Just asking cause it's 1.109 on the original recipe.
Should finish around 9% so I'd be happy enough with that.
Quote from: Jacob on May 02, 2014, 11:22:29 AM
Just asking cause it's 1.109 on the original recipe.
Methinks I have too much water (5 real gallons as opposed to 5 gallons US!)
Just need to re-tweek the water or up the malts by a couple of percent.
I will wait for "Nigel the Recipe" to upgrade it!!
Any blow-ins allowed?
As a side note - shouldn't pilsner malt be boiled for 90 minutes?
Yes
1. Will_D
2. Jacob
3. Partridge
Sure it would be bad manners not to. ;)
1. Will_D
2. Jacob
3. Partridge
4. Nigel
I'll put Derek in:
1. Will_D
2. Jacob
3. Partridge
4. Nigel
5. Delzep
Half way there almost!
1. Will_D
2. Jacob
3. Partridge
4. Nigel
5. Delzep
6. BrianC
Any chance of someone doing a big starter or sharing a slurry?
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I have a decent amount of wlp 500 I can get on the go. I can get a 3L starter on the go and by the time be get to brew should have loads.
We canals plans at next meeting.
I have a very clean slurry WLP500 as well - looks perfect to me.
Could probably break it into 2 X three litre starters without too much difficulty.
(Using 500g of DME)
1. Will_D
2. Jacob
3. Partridge
4. Nigel
5. Delzep
6. BrianC
11. DamienM
as another blow in I will move down/off the list if other NCB's wish to join!
Please can you update this even if you are defo. not interested!
When I say not interested I don't mean it in a bad way.!
1. Will_D
2. Jacob
3. Partridge
4. Nigel
5. Delzep
6. BrianC
11. DamienM
Not interested/can't make it:
1.
1. Will_D
2. Jacob
3. Partridge
4. Nigel
5. Delzep
6. BrianC
11. DamienM
12. Cahalbrua
Please can you update this even if you are defo. not interested!
When I say not interested I don't mean it in a bad way.!
1. Will_D
2. Jacob
3. Partridge
4. Nigel
5. Delzep
6. BrianC
11. DamienM
Not interested/can't make it:
1.R@H
Please can you update this even if you are defo. not interested!
When I say not interested I don't mean it in a bad way.!
Thanks Renier!
1. Will_D
2. Jacob
3. Partridge
4. Nigel
5. Delzep
6. BrianC
7. Cahalbrua
11. DamienM
Not interested/can't make it:
1.R@H
Bit of a bump.
Still haven't heard from some of our own NCB.
Lads, we need to know one way or another who is in so we can start thinking about numbers.
I suggest we open this up to others outside the NCB in a week or so if the places are not filled.
We have to think timeline. nearly into the 6th month which means less than 6 months till Christmas. I'd love to have a barrel ages Belgian for then. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Good news, Brian from homebrew west has offered us a very good deal on lme/dme if we need it on this project !
For those of us with the braumeister , we will need something in there.
Lads I have an extract brewer who wants in ..
any objections ?
Nope. Unless he'll use kit :P
Quote from: Partridge9 on May 27, 2014, 08:48:43 AM
Good news, Brian from homebrew west has offered us a very good deal on lme/dme if we need it on this project !
For those of us with the braumeister , we will need something in there.
Excellent news James.
@Nigel: Quite agree - 1 more week and anyone is in
So the list so far is:
1. Will_D
2. Jacob
3. Partridge
4. Nigel
5. Delzep
6. BrianC
7. Mr Extract via P9
11. DamienM
12. Cahalbrua
So we are still a few short!
Please lads even if you are not in let us know!
Ok, we have 9 names on the list so far.
What about quantities?
We need ~200l in total, so ...
1. Will_D
2. Jacob 25L (50L if needed)
3. Partridge
4. Nigel
5. Delzep
6. BrianC
7. Mr Extract via P9
11. DamienM
12. Cahalbrua
1. Will_D
2. Jacob 25L (50L if needed)
3. Partridge
4. Nigel (23L)
5. Delzep
6. BrianC
7. Mr Extract via P9
11. DamienM
12. Cahalbrua
1. Will_D
2. Jacob 25L (50L if needed)
3. Partridge
4. Nigel (23L)
5. Delzep
6. BrianC
7. Mr Extract via P9
11. DamienM
12. Cahalbrua
Total: 48L
All that pilsner malt will require a 90 minute boil meaning a large boiler for a 25 litre batch (35 litre vesselminimum iI'dsay)
Quote from: delzep on May 27, 2014, 12:36:34 PM
All that pilsner malt will require a 90 minute boil meaning a large boiler for a 25 litre batch (35 litre vesselminimum iI'dsay)
Why would you boil it for 90 mins?
Any other reason then getting higher OG?
Using pilsner regularly (up to 100% of a grain bill) and never had any issues, no DMS or anything unexpected.
Isn't it common to boil for 90 minutes when using pilsner malt to reduce dms?
Quote from: delzep on May 27, 2014, 02:48:05 PM
Isn't it common to boil for 90 minutes when using pilsner malt to reduce dms?
Read about it, but never had any issues with DMS.
Don't cover your pot & cool it fast to avoid it.
Sorry lads. I've been useless lately. Won't have the time to get involved with this group brew. :(
Quote from: Partridge9 on May 27, 2014, 08:48:43 AM
Good news, Brian from homebrew west has offered us a very good deal on lme/dme if we need it on this project !
We will also have to arrange some bottles of the last 2 batches to send to him.
I'm torn, but I I'll have to bow out. Wife due in a few weeks, so the timing is not great for making a commitment.
Any idea of when brew date needs to be and planned empty/fill date?
BTW, R@H gave me a taste of a carbed up version on what's in the cask and it's flippin' delish!
I don't think I need another big beer, but I'll contribute to make up volume if needed. I only have corny's for transport, so realistically 18L would be my limit. Let me know if need me..
Gents I ordered all that DME / LME - thanks for Brian for the amazing deal.
He is also throwing in some bulldog hops to try.
Sorry lads, gonna have to drop out. :-[
I'd love to get in on this, can do up to 50 litres. I don't know if I'm a member though, I homebrew and I'm in North County Dublin, do I need to swear an oath or anything?! Would love to get involved!
No probs Hci.
Welcome to the gang. And very Welcome your 50 L
We can discuss our secret inaugoration rituals over a beer at our next meeting at the Boro. Thread will be going up soon
BTW: We make the Mason's and the Knights of C.'s Initiation ceremonies look like first day in kindergarten!
So an update:
1. Will_D 25L
2. Jacob 25L (50L if needed)
3. Partridge
4. Nigel (23L)
6. BrianC
7. Mr Extract via P9
8. DamienM
9. Cahalbrua
10. Mcgrath (18L)
11. Hurleyci (50L)
So assuming the other non volume quoters are at say 18L, I think we have 230 litres or therabouts and thats without Jacobs top-up!
Now two more things:
Colmac has said he's out due to new arrivals so where can we do the transfer/store the new barrel?
@ColMac If you are ok hosting the new brew for another 6 months we would be v. thankfull!
If not then we will empty the barrel on a suitable day to you , ship it empty to another location and fill the next day.
One possible location is the Rugby club shed! Any other options?
Also point deux: Can someone pickup this ball and get the recipe/logistics/etc rolling?
I need to start thinkink of the club competition!
And also anyone fancy going point on the Boro brew day?
No problem hosting the new brew. We will however just have to play it by ear for hosting an empty/fill day.
Many thanks Colin for the offer.
We haven't even started to plan the next brew yet so ther's no rush.
Keep us informed on the "latest, newest brewer's arrival"
So lads - we need to factor in this LME / DME into the recipe.
Once I have it I'll let you know how much we have.
Quote from: Will_D on June 02, 2014, 08:26:44 PM
And also anyone fancy going point on the Boro brew day?
Do we have a date for that?
I think this could be a pretty good base beer we could tweak with out own ingredients and specs.
http://www.beoir.org/community/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=5944&p=65809&hilit=DIY+candi#p65809
It's from a few years back. I did something similar and was very happy with it.
Yes indeed it looks good. I was talking to James eralier about you and he putting together a recipe using the extracts that he's ordered.
We can discuss more on Sunday!
Quote from: Tube on June 03, 2014, 12:33:45 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 27, 2014, 02:58:46 PM
Quote from: delzep on May 27, 2014, 02:48:05 PM
Isn't it common to boil for 90 minutes when using pilsner malt to reduce dms?
Read about it, but never had any issues with DMS.
Don't cover your pot & cool it fast to avoid it.
Just FYI, 80% of lagers in March had DMS. But, it's not a serious off flavour, even in lager. A couple of gulps and you wouldn't notice it any more.
Maybe not for Czech, but I think DMS is very common.in German lagers - Spaten comes to mind.
I also get a bit of a corn flavour off Westvleteren, more in an adjunct way than a DMS way.
Sounds like a plan.