National Homebrew Club Ireland

I was drinking a bottle of the stout mentioned above last night and looked for recipe for it and here is wat i got. has anyone tried it?

13 lbs. (5.9 kg) 2-row pale ale malt
2 lbs. 2 oz. (0.96 kg) flaked barley
1.0 lb. (0.45 kg) roasted barley (500 °L)
11.33 AAU Challenger hops  (60 mins) (1.6 oz./46 g of 7% alpha acids)
Wyeast 1084 (Irish Ale) or White Labs WLP004 (Irish Ale) yeast (2 qt./2 L starter plus 0.5 qt/500 mL mini-starter)
2/3 cup corn sugar (for priming)

Lower the pale malt and raise the flaked.

Guinness F.E.S from Brew European Beers at Home (Protz & Wheeler)

OG 1073 17.6 Plato

For 25 litres [23 litres]

Pale Malt 6.2kg [5.7kg]
Flaked Barley 1.7kg [1.55kg]
Roast Barley 0.5kg [0.45kg]

START OF BOIL
Target Hops (seeded) 45g [40g]
Golding Hops 65g [60g]

BREWING METHOD
Single-infusion mash; top fermenting yeast

MASH SCHEDULE 67c - 90 minutes
BOIL TIME 90 minutes
RACKING GRAVITY 1020 4.7 Plato
ALCOHOL CONTENT 7.2% abv 5.6% abw
BITTERNESS 65 EBU
COLOUR 200 EBC

Guinness Special Export recipe would be great......anyone?

With regard to the spelling of the thread title, I think the correct spelling is Guinness Forden Extra.

Interesting introduction to the recipe in the book too actually

"Strong Irish stout. A world classic, its roots in the early porters and stouts of London and Dublin. The beer is a blend of regular stout and a second beer that is matured in unlined oak vessels for around two months. It has the 'horse-blanket' aroma that is the result of attack from wild Brettanomyces yeasts in the vats, a rich and spicy fruitiness and great depth of hop bitterness. Dark fruit and hops dominate the mouth, while the finish is full of complex sour fruit, malt and hops. The yeast strain used in the Dublin brewery is a modern culture derived from Arthur Guinness's original multi-strain one. It works rapidly, fermentation lasting only two to three days and is neither top nor bottom fermenting - quite a challenge for home brewers. "

Quote from: delzep on May 23, 2014, 03:00:23 PM
Guinness Special Export recipe would be great......anyone?

That one not good enough for ya :P

Quote from: Tube on May 23, 2014, 03:23:59 PM
SES is brewed in Belgium only, iirc, and is only intended for that market. Slightly stronger than FES.

Brewed in Dublin as far as I know, for the Benelux market

Its much nicer than FES

That European Beers book is great, even if it's a wee bit out of date in terms of the ingredients. There's a whole bit at the back about Guinness and brett / souring as well.

I never got 'horse blanket' off of Guinness. I think there's a  lactic acid tang but nothing else.
I'm thinking a sour mash would do the trick.

I've a digital copy if anyone wants it, only if you own the original of course ;)

There's a link to the Amazon page view here

http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=3140.msg37812#msg37812

The sour stuff is in Appendix 1.

Cheers cara for the recipe have you ever made that recipe

Quote from: CARA on May 23, 2014, 02:53:06 PM
Guinness F.E.S from Brew European Beers at Home (Protz & Wheeler)

OG 1073 17.6 Plato

For 25 litres [23 litres]

Pale Malt 6.2kg [5.7kg]
Flaked Barley 1.7kg [1.55kg]
Roast Barley 0.5kg [0.45kg]

START OF BOIL
Target Hops (seeded) 45g [40g]
Golding Hops 65g [60g]

BREWING METHOD
Single-infusion mash; top fermenting yeast

MASH SCHEDULE 67c - 90 minutes
BOIL TIME 90 minutes
RACKING GRAVITY 1020 4.7 Plato
ALCOHOL CONTENT 7.2% abv 5.6% abw
BITTERNESS 65 EBU
COLOUR 200 EBC

CARA et al. has anyone brewed this?  Is this the recipe for Benelux FES that's supposed to be the business?

It's Guinness Special Export that's on sale in Benelux, not foreign extra

Brewed in Dublin exported to Belgium in liquid containers and bottled and distributed across Europe exclusively by Timmermans.

And imported here rarely. Haven't seen it in ages  :-\
Tried a 30 year old bottle of it a few years ago and it was heaven

Beg pardon.  I think I'm going to order some in after hearing so much about its qualities.  Anyone ever get an idea of what the recipe is?

Guinness won't allow it to be sold officially here we asked the distributor

I have 20 year old bottle Guinness FES gonna open next club night hope it still tastes good.
It was a special commemoration brew.

Quote from: CH on February 12, 2016, 07:54:06 AM
Guinness won't allow it to be sold officially here we asked the distributor

Any idea why?  Diageo and a lot of the majors love playing silly buggers with stuff like this. Like Jameson selling ex-whiskey barrels to the US but not selling any in Ireland.

The distributor told us it goes back years and is because of the taste and ABV to compete in the Belgian Market where Malty high abv stuff is the norm.

Quote from: CH on February 12, 2016, 05:57:31 PM
The distributor told us it goes back years and is because of the taste and ABV to compete in the Belgian Market where Malty high abv stuff is the norm.

Ehhh sounds like typical corporate BS along the lines of 'we don't want to'.  Why would Guinness have an issue with a different specialist product being sold in the home market when they have/had loads Breó/Foreign Export/North Star/Brew 39/Toucan/West Indies/Dublin Porter etc. etc.??

John Martin have been importing it to Belgium for about 100 I believe.

Don't understand why FES isn't sold in pubs here

My info sugests that the thinking is along these lines:

Kegged Guiness drinkers drink Guiness from ther tap
Bottle drinkers drink pint bottles from "the shelf"

Diageo do not want these two classes of drinkers to try ANYTHING else even another Guiness product in case they may start to drink other peoples dark beers/stouts/why!

What about the north star stout and others they released a few years ago (or was that pre-diagio?)

Quote from: delzep on February 12, 2016, 07:10:09 PM
John Martin have been importing it to Belgium for about 100 I believe.

Don't understand why FES isn't sold in pubs here

Absolutely and that's where I had it, not overly impressed tbh, probably spoilt for choice with everything else on offer.
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and where my little mole on the left there comes from it's the brand from the barrels

I meant 100 years by the way

Yep
http://anthonymartin.be/en/our-beers/guinness/-1-/

It's fairly tricky to find in Belgian pubs. It's in every supermarket though. About €4.50 for a 4 pack  :-[

Quote from: CH on February 13, 2016, 07:38:22 AM
Yep
http://anthonymartin.be/en/our-beers/guinness/-1-/

Hardly a hundred years surely? On their site it says since 1944, although it doesn't seem accurate, being mid-WWII. Ron Pattison has Guinness building a pasteurisation plant in 1930 for the Belgian market.