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Brewing Discussions => All Grain Brewing => Topic started by: fishjam45 (Colin) on June 01, 2014, 09:58:30 PM

Title: Cut my all grain teeth yesterday . . .
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on June 01, 2014, 09:58:30 PM
Evenin all, I had a go at my first all grain brew yesterday. I went with the BIAB method as I thought it'd be the least complicated way of getting into all grain.
I wont bore you with all the details but heres a quick rundown of my ingredients and what I did with them.

5kg Maris Otter
200g Carapils
150g Chocolate Malt
250g Crystal
60g Styrian Goldings
60g Fuggles
Safale s-04 Yeast

I mashed at 69 deg for 60 mins (added 5.2pH additive at start of Mash)
I boiled for 60 mins adding 15g each of the hops on 4 occasions -  at start of boil, 45 mins, 30 mins and 0 mins.
I added my wort chiller and a whirlfloc at 15 mins before end of boil.
Took 25 mins to chill down before adding to FV.
Pitch yeast and shes now going like the clappers!!!!
Title: Re: Cut my all grain teeth yesterday . . .
Post by: Qs on June 02, 2014, 01:45:00 AM
Looks great. What style is it, bitter?
Title: Re: Cut my all grain teeth yesterday . . .
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on June 02, 2014, 09:14:19 AM
Its an English Ale, pretty much a Hob Goblin Clone.
I wanted to use Danstar Nottingham Yeast but couldnt get my hands on it.
Title: Re: Cut my all grain teeth yesterday . . .
Post by: imark on June 02, 2014, 09:25:26 AM
Haven't used s04 myself but heard it can be a poor attenuator so watch out for that.
There are a few of us that have plenty of notty and could sort you out. Stick a request up if you're stuck again.
Title: Re: Cut my all grain teeth yesterday . . .
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on June 02, 2014, 09:31:41 AM
Thanks iMark
Title: Re: Cut my all grain teeth yesterday . . .
Post by: Shanna on June 02, 2014, 10:09:38 AM
I did three brews with S-04 and the first two finished very high at 1.18 and despite taking the fermenter for a walk and moving it to a warmer room I could not get it to finish. As a result I ended up with two gusher beers as when I primed the left over un fermented sugar increased the co2 level above normal. The third one was a stout that finished fine. The high alcohol of the first two I think was part of the problem as I think there was insufficient yeast.

Shanna
Title: Re: Cut my all grain teeth yesterday . . .
Post by: mr hoppy on June 02, 2014, 04:23:17 PM
I'd agree. It was the taste that put me off S-04.
Title: Re: Cut my all grain teeth yesterday . . .
Post by: LordEoin on June 02, 2014, 07:35:49 PM
S04 is great for a Guinness clone.

What's that connection off your tap on the keggle? I need something bigger and that looks like the job  :)
Title: Re: Cut my all grain teeth yesterday . . .
Post by: Will_D on June 02, 2014, 09:11:35 PM
Hey Fj, Forget the "All Grain Teeth"! Thats Efin Easy! Cameraz is difficult!

You managed to post a Purfect set of photos! All the right way round etc. etc.

So when I hang up me auld lens youze' d' boy!

Mega Congrats!
Title: Re: Cut my all grain teeth yesterday . . .
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on June 03, 2014, 11:12:04 AM
The airlock has pretty much finished bubbling already, I'll take a reading tonight to see where I'm at.

LordEoin, I'll send you the links to where I bought the valve etc later on when I get on the laptop.

Cheers Will, had to re-edit my original post a few times to get the pictures orientation correct - easy  :D

I can only live and learn with my choice of yeast, hopefully I don't dislike the taste the 04 gives off considering there's 24.5 litres of it sitting in my FV!!!
Title: Re: Cut my all grain teeth yesterday . . .
Post by: Covey on June 03, 2014, 02:18:30 PM
Hi In Pic 5, i see the same gray scum when i BIAB, what is it i wonder?
Title: Re: Cut my all grain teeth yesterday . . .
Post by: cochised on June 04, 2014, 09:47:32 PM
Looks excellent.

Ordered a few AG mash kits earlier so hoping to do my first AG next week.
Have done a good few partials with good results so far.

Will be using a cooler mash tun
Title: Re: Cut my all grain teeth yesterday . . .
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on June 04, 2014, 09:54:27 PM
Quote from: Covey on June 03, 2014, 02:18:30 PM
Hi In Pic 5, i see the same gray scum when i BIAB, what is it i wonder?

What scum are you talking about, can you go into more detail?
Title: Re: Cut my all grain teeth yesterday . . .
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on June 04, 2014, 09:55:47 PM
Quote from: cochised on June 04, 2014, 09:47:32 PM

Will be using a cooler mash tun

Hope it's not too cool or your mash won't be very efficient  :P
Title: Re: Cut my all grain teeth yesterday . . .
Post by: cochised on June 04, 2014, 10:01:17 PM
Quote from: fishjam45 on June 04, 2014, 09:55:47 PM
Quote from: cochised on June 04, 2014, 09:47:32 PM

Will be using a cooler mash tun

Hope it's not too cool or your mash won't be very efficient  :P
I meant cool as in hip and with it  8)
Title: Re: Cut my all grain teeth yesterday . . .
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on June 04, 2014, 10:03:11 PM
I guessed that, looking forward to seeing it
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Post by: LordEoin on June 04, 2014, 10:09:09 PM
Quote from: Covey on June 03, 2014, 02:18:30 PM
Hi In Pic 5, i see the same gray scum when i BIAB, what is it i wonder?
I agree, it looks terrible. I had better take this batch off you for health and safety reasons.
I'll do a thorough sampling of 30-40 bottles and let you know if there was something wrong, I won't even charge you!
Title: Re: Cut my all grain teeth yesterday . . .
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on June 04, 2014, 10:46:43 PM
Jaysus you are a grand oul skin, fair play to ya!!!
Title: Re: Cut my all grain teeth yesterday . . .
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on June 04, 2014, 11:04:14 PM
Took a reading tonight seeing as the airlock has stopped bubbling.
OG 1044 Sat 31st May
      1014 Wed 4th June

I left the sample in the trial jar for a while and it appeared to be creating some bubbles, so maybe the yeast hasn't finished yet.

Had a sneaky sample and it tastes good, lovely aroma coming through from the hops.

Anybody know what that stuff is that's floating in the trial jar?
Title: Re: Cut my all grain teeth yesterday . . .
Post by: LordEoin on June 05, 2014, 12:53:07 AM
looks fine, probably just bits of yeast/hop/break
if it was clumpy, fluffy, slimey i'd be worried but this stuff will either drop out or stay floating.
Either way it mostly wont make it into the bottle or keg
Title: Re: Cut my all grain teeth yesterday . . .
Post by: Sorcerers Apprentice on June 05, 2014, 07:58:42 AM
Quote from: fishjam45 on June 04, 2014, 09:54:27 PM
Quote from: Covey on June 03, 2014, 02:18:30 PM
Hi In Pic 5, i see the same gray scum when i BIAB, what is it i wonder?

What scum are you talking about, can you go into more detail?
It's probably what's known as Teig in German and Fines in English. It's the finer flour particles from the milling. Sometimes if the milling is too fine you can get a layer on top of the grain bed which can blind the bed and cause run off issues. Commercial Lautering Tuns have knives which cut through this this grey layer to assist the run off.
Title: Re: Cut my all grain teeth yesterday . . .
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on June 10, 2014, 09:42:56 PM
OG 1044 Sat 31st May
      1014 Wed 4th June
      1012 Tue 10th June

Do you guys reckon it's going to drop anymore?
Title: Re: Cut my all grain teeth yesterday . . .
Post by: Hop Bomb on June 10, 2014, 11:18:10 PM
Shes done. With a mash temp of 69 yer in the full body range. Yer FG should be on the high side.
Title: Re: Cut my all grain teeth yesterday . . .
Post by: cochised on June 12, 2014, 12:22:09 PM
All done with my first AG  :)

Started at 06:30 this morning and finished about 12, so about what I was expecting.

Did the blonde ale mash kit from THBC and ended up with 22 litres.
OG is meant to be 1050, got 1046/7 so happy with that.
Just let the cooled wort fly from the tap of my pot into the fermenter so loads of air in it.

All went well in the end, just a long shift really