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Title: Brew Shed
Post by: Sorcerers Apprentice on June 03, 2014, 12:17:44 PM
I bought an 8x8 superior shed on Adverts.ie, from www.gardenshedsforsale.ie they had a special offer on with a metal roof. In hind sight I should have requested it to be fully lined with breathable membrane. I decided to insulate the shed and line it with a washable surface for hygiene. Having researched a little I discovered that I needed to install a breathable membrane under the insulation. The roof already had this membrane, I could only source it in 300 ft rolls, so I used the black weed control sheet which you can buy in garden centres. As luck would have it Lidl had a staple gun in the centre isle that week. I tacked on the membrane and bought 25mm Quinntherm insulation sheets a similar product to Kingspan, I think it cost around €11 per 8x4 sheet in U Value in Ballycoolin. I then cut and applied a layer of hardboard on top of the insulation. I went for the white finish which cost €10 per 8x4 sheet in Goodwins builders providers. My wife and kids bought me the sign in GlennTrout signs for fathers day along with a mash paddle. They named my 'brewery' after my brewing assistants, my two Irish Glen of Imaal Terriers :-)
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Title: Re: Brew Shed
Post by: Qs on June 03, 2014, 12:26:57 PM
Nice job. I'm getting a shed soon but theres no way I'd have the patience to line it so nicely.
Title: Re: Brew Shed
Post by: Sorcerers Apprentice on June 03, 2014, 12:31:38 PM
Next step is to wire and plumb it, I have some 10 sq twin and Earth cable lying around so I'll run this in conduit to a sub board in the shed and put up some plastic trunking with sockets installed in it. Then I have to build a frame to hold my keggles. I was planning on using galvanised uni strut, but I'll need to check prices first.
Title: Re: Brew Shed
Post by: DEMPSEY on June 03, 2014, 12:39:21 PM
Looking good. Planning a new shed build myself soon. Wife suggested it I think she trying to tell me something ::).
Title: Re: Brew Shed
Post by: Rossa on June 03, 2014, 12:40:29 PM
I like it!
Title: Re: Brew Shed
Post by: Sorcerers Apprentice on June 03, 2014, 12:44:04 PM
A man needs a shed!! Forgot to add that the original shed floor was a bit bouncy so I put down 2 sheets of 1/2" waterproof ply to stiffen it up to carry the weight of the equipment, liquor and me while brewing.
The shed came with 2 clear windows on the side wall, I bought 2 pieces of frosted glass and siliconed them into place to give me double glazing and prevent prying eyes, I need to hook it up to the house alarm also.

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Title: Re: Brew Shed
Post by: Sorcerers Apprentice on June 03, 2014, 01:00:04 PM
That's a factory not a shed!! At least you wont have to line it with all the Lambic brews you brew  ;D
Title: Re: Brew Shed
Post by: LordEoin on June 03, 2014, 01:19:39 PM
After hogging the kitchen all day yesterday with a 3 step mash, SWMBO said something along the lines of "Maybe you should build that brewshed", so it looks like I have a greenlight too! :D
I'll learn from your mistakes if I ever get to it
Title: Re: Brew Shed
Post by: Shanna on June 03, 2014, 01:24:22 PM
Quote from: Sorcerers Apprentice on June 03, 2014, 12:44:04 PM
A man needs a shed!! Forgot to add that the original shed floor was a bit bouncy so I put down 2 sheets of 1/2" waterproof ply to stiffen it up to carry the weight of the equipment, liquor and me while brewing.
The shed came with 2 clear windows on the side wall, I bought 2 pieces of frosted glass and siliconed them into place to give me double glazing and prevent prying eyes, I need to hook it up to the house alarm also.

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Have you given any thought to ventilation like an extractor fan. I brew in my shed and condensation is a big problem. I am eventually going to invest in an extractor fan.

Shanna
Title: Re: Brew Shed
Post by: Sorcerers Apprentice on June 03, 2014, 01:26:10 PM
There's a vent on each gable but I will be installing a fan when I get the electrics in, so my neighbours can enjoy the aromas also.

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Title: Re: Brew Shed
Post by: Taf on June 03, 2014, 02:27:42 PM
My shed/brewery was supposed to be a two car garage, but it's never had a car inside it! I've actually just finished painting the whole outside of the house, which means I can now probably paint the inside of the brewhouse and make it a bit more confortable, as if I painted the inside of the garage first before the outside of the house there would have been serious tutting!

Need to have another clearout though, as just have too much stuff gathering dust and making it cluttered.
Title: Re: Brew Shed
Post by: LordEoin on June 03, 2014, 02:32:19 PM
dont worry, I'll help by taking all of your stuff
Title: Re: Brew Shed
Post by: Shanna on June 03, 2014, 02:51:56 PM
Quote from: Sorcerers Apprentice on June 03, 2014, 01:26:10 PM
There's a vent on each gable but I will be installing a fan when I get the electrics in, so my neighbours can enjoy the aromas also.

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Would a bog standard electric fan similar to what installed in a bathroom do it. I am thinking about putting in a kitchen style hood to capture the steam.

Shanna
Title: Re: Brew Shed
Post by: Damien M on June 03, 2014, 02:53:58 PM
Mines an Ex Cowshed!! Mass Concrete walls. Sloping floors and even got some Lambic Evening air vents high on the walls!!! ^-^ 8)
Title: Re: Brew Shed
Post by: Will_D on June 03, 2014, 03:51:27 PM
You need a minimum of a 6" fan and the ducting. I have a 4" shower type over my kettle and it isn't up to it.

8" would be even better.
Title: Re: Brew Shed
Post by: Garry on June 03, 2014, 04:16:25 PM
I put a 4" bathroom fan in my shed too. It's shite. My glasses still fog up. I'd love to put a velux window in the roof  :D

Nice work SA. Is the big stainless enclosure (next to the step ladder) part of your electric brewery plans??
Title: Re: Brew Shed
Post by: Beerbuddha on June 03, 2014, 05:43:19 PM
Sweet looking. I shall drink one later in honor if the two glens brewery. How many days accident free  ;)
Title: Re: Brew Shed
Post by: Shanna on June 03, 2014, 05:43:34 PM
Quote from: Will_D on June 03, 2014, 03:51:27 PM
You need a minimum of a 6" fan and the ducting. I have a 4" shower type over my kettle and it isn't up to it.

8" would be even better.

Might be time to pay a visit to the recyling centre to see what is available. Real challenge will be fitting the hood to the wall of the shed as its brittle out. Thanks for the tip about the fan size.

Shanna
Title: Re: Brew Shed
Post by: Ozbrewer on June 03, 2014, 08:38:38 PM
@SA - looking good mate. Can't wait to see it finished.
Title: Re: Brew Shed
Post by: giacomo on June 03, 2014, 09:01:53 PM
Looks pretty nice! I've just bought a large shed myself, the main goal is to store the motorbike in there, but there would be some spare space to put some brewing stuff in there too... maybe...
Title: Re: Brew Shed
Post by: Sorcerers Apprentice on June 04, 2014, 09:04:38 AM
Quote from: Garry on June 03, 2014, 04:16:25 PM
I put a 4" bathroom fan in my shed too. It's shite. My glasses still fog up. I'd love to put a velux window in the roof  :D

Nice work SA. Is the big stainless enclosure (next to the step ladder) part of your electric brewery plans??
Now that I'm honing my carpentry skills I was thinking of making a canopy to cover the 3 vessels with a duct fan on top. For stouts and darker ales you should be looking at a 10% boil off in the kettle with a 40 litre brew that means 4 litres of water is boiled off! That's a substantial volume of water to remove as condensation, so I'll be planning on a large flowrate fan, I also bought wheels in Lidl lately for the bottom of the rig, in the event that it's still too steamy , I can drag it outside..
Well spied on the control panel!!
No more lost time accidents BB, thank God, while I was unloading the hardboard sheets from the roof rack, a sudden gust of wind whipped a sheet off the top of my car. It flew through the air Damien Omen 3 esque and sliced through my forehead. A quick visit to the swiftcare clinic in Swords, €150 and 11 switches later everything was fine.
So be safe out there !!
Title: Re: Brew Shed
Post by: brenmurph on June 04, 2014, 01:14:04 PM
I tride a normal 4 inch bathroom fan.......useless....a 6 inch bathroom fan....useless....settles for a 12 inch restaurant fan (xpelair) which is quiet, powerful and does a great hob. So think carefully.

I'm aware a good twin fan household cooker hood is quite adeqyuate as well...Its all about the litres per minute flow rate
Title: Re: Brew Shed
Post by: Beerbuddha on June 05, 2014, 09:39:15 AM
I have cooker fan but it needs to be at an angle to let condensation trickle down and not drip back into fermenter.