Siebel Sensory training kit has arrived.
The kit contains 24 flavours to make up 1l each and covers 20 tasters.
The concentration is about 3 times the perceptible threshold.
The Sensory Session with happen in Cork, Location and Date TBD.
Kit was EUR80(USD100) + 2 slabs of heino or similar so a token contribution of a fiver per interested party.
List for Interest purposes here...
1. johnrm
1. Johnrm
2. Dr. Horrible
1. Johnrm
2. Dr. Horrible
3. LordEoin
1. Johnrm
2. Dr. Horrible
3. LordEoin
4. Garry
1. Johnrm
2. Dr. Horrible
3. LordEoin
4. Garry
5. Taf - Depending on date, as hardly have time to drink good beer, never mind anything else.
DHL just paid a visit again looking for duty, the Bastids.
Not sure what the score is, I have the goods, so I'm in a strong position for bargaining.
what parcel?
Exactemondo.
Unfortunately my first wife has signed for it.
Time to look for no. 2...
Maybe I could change the number on the front door and confuse them.
1. Johnrm
2. Dr. Horrible
3. LordEoin
4. Garry
5. Taf - Depending on date, as hardly have time to drink good beer, never mind anything else.
6. mr hoppy
I think I'll whizz into a bunch of Yeast Vials, shove them in the box.
I'll refuse to pay so they'll have to take it back.
If you don't pay, they say thay 'auction' it to cover the cost.
Quote from: johnrm on September 11, 2014, 12:52:13 PM
DHL just paid a visit again looking for duty, the Bastids.
Not sure what the score is, I have the goods, so I'm in a strong position for bargaining.
Tell them you need someone from their head office to contact you regarding the duty. Then refuse to accept any incoming calls that are tagged "Private Number".
1. Johnrm
2. Dr. Horrible
3. LordEoin
4. Garry
5. Taf - Depending on date, as hardly have time to drink good beer, never mind anything else.
6. mr hoppy
7.donnchadhc
Lads
I have a wheat ale with a very obvious fault :(
It's kegged and carbed, was gonna dump it! Would ye have any use for a couple of bottles?
Damian
Dredging this up again.
How does April 11th sound?
Siebel kit e80 (refrigerated since it arrived - 6 months shelf life)
Tesco - Coors lite - 2x8x50cl cans - e26.00 x 3 = e78
Disposable glasses
Mineral Water
Crackers
Any printing I can do at work
At most e200 total.
Several sources recommend lower dilution so 750ml beer to a vial
10 x 75ml samples - e20 a head covers it.
Why is there no vomiting smiley?
Have we a venue? Ye can come to my gaff and we can empty the barrel while we're at it?
No venue, was considering the Well, but your place sounds fine.
Table and chairs for 10 would be cool.
Planks and crates would be fine.
This is only sampling so driving should not be an issue, although carpooling is always useful.
A barrel emptying/tasting meeting sounds great, look forward to it.
Quote from: Garry on March 20, 2015, 03:13:41 PM
Have we a venue? Ye can come to my gaff and we can empty the barrel while we're at it?
That sounds like a great idea.
Dr Horrible can bring some of his bock too, if he has any left. :)
Just the one bottle left I'm afraid. I did like you suggested to me and put aside a few bottles for the comp - pretty good advice!
Cut and paste list....
1. Johnrm
2. Dr. Horrible
3. LordEoin
4. Garry
5. Taf - Depending on date, as hardly have time to drink good beer, never mind anything else.
6. mr hoppy
7.donnchadhc
Is anyone in or out?
What date John ?
Shit, I just went to mark Saturday 11th on the calendar and she's got there before me. How does Good Friday suit? There's never anything on Good Friday?
Quote from: Dr Horrible on March 21, 2015, 07:24:21 PM
Just the one bottle left I'm afraid. I did like you suggested to me and put aside a few bottles for the comp - pretty good advice!
Yeah, that was a fantastic beer. I wouldn't grudge you your last bottle but it was really nice.
That makes it Friday 3rd I think.
Does that suit people.
Shamek, you can travel with me if you can make it.
Quote from: johnrm on March 21, 2015, 07:43:47 PM
Cut and paste list....
1. Johnrm
2. Dr. Horrible
3. LordEoin
4. Garry
5. Taf - Depending on date, as hardly have time to drink good beer, never mind anything else.
6. mr hoppy
7.donnchadhc
Is anyone in or out?
You can scratch me from the list anyway.
1. Johnrm
2. Dr. Horrible
3. LordEoin
4. Garry
5. mr hoppy
6. donnchadhc
7. dcalnan
1. Johnrm
2. Dr. Horrible
3. LordEoin
4. Garry
5. mr hoppy
6. donnchadhc
7. dcalnan
8. Shamek
1. Johnrm
2. Dr. Horrible
3. LordEoin
4. Garry
5. mr hoppy
6. donnchadhc
7. dcalnan
8. Shamek
9. BrewCity & Jus223
1. Johnrm
2. Dr. Horrible
3. LordEoin
4. Garry
5. mr hoppy
6. dcalnan
7. Shamek
8. BrewCity & Jus223
9. Massbrewer/Akavango
There's space for more...
And Garry's making us a pavlova!
There are 24 vials. Allowing 7 mins each, 5 mins plus 2 mins changeover, that's almost 3hrs.
We may not need 5 mins with some, but the time will balance out on discussion.
How does a 7pm start sound?
7pm is fine with me, would the pavlova fall under acetic acid for the tasting depending on whether its made with vinegar or not?
Don't forget Kegs/Buckets for the Barrel beer!
I'll be there on Friday. Sorry, no brews to contribute. I need to step it up!
1. Johnrm
2. Dr. Horrible
3. LordEoin
4. Garry
5. mr hoppy
6. dcalnan
7. Shamek
8. BrewCity & Jus223
9. Massbrewer/Akavango
10. raindogxx
how much do we owe towards the sensory training and cheap wrecking beer?
Yeah John, is this a cash on the day job or paypal?
I've booked the main function room! Anyone who needs directions, send me a PM. Dress warm too lads, forecast is 4° ???
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20 a head will cover it.
I got a letter from a debt collection crowd during the week for the duty. Bastids.
Cash on the day is grand. PayPal if it suits, PM for details.
[Edit:Just did my sums, 20 will do.]
Quote from: johnrm on March 26, 2015, 07:40:53 AM
There are 24 vials. Allowing 7 mins each, 5 mins plus 2 mins changeover, that's almost 3hrs.
We may not need 5 mins with some, but the time will balance out on discussion.
How does a 7pm start sound?
How many off flavours is there?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding this but if we're doing 24 different off flavours in one go it's going to be very hard to remember any of them.
Is it the flavours on this list?
https://www.siebelinstitute.com/products/FLYER-Siebel_Institute_Sensory_Kits.pdf
That's pretty much the one.
The kit I have has 24.
1 or 2 differ.
We could split it over 2 sessions if that's what the people want...
We may well split this into 2 sessions.
We will see how we go on the night, I don't want to rush anyone.
If a second night is required I am incloned to do it sooner than later, we will agree this on the night.
First task on the night is to empty the barrel, then down to the tasting.
We will have 2 syphons, so emptying should not take very long.
Make sure you bring buckets/Kegs!
For the tasting, please bring a notebook/paper and pens.
The order will be random and the off-flavours will not be announced.
Once everyone is happy that they have it or not - We announce and discuss.
why wouldn't we announce the off flavor?
This is starting to sound like a quiz
Because some people will prefer it that way. We can announce after 1 min, that way everyone is happy.
Molson Canadian
If someone tells you what the taste is its much easier to taste it!
Not knowing what it is really stretches your taste buds and knowledge of the off flavours
That's what i was thinking, but sure those of us who haven't done it before can just wait the minute until it's announced before tasting. then everyone wins. :)
Play it by ear.
By number 6 we'll have given up and be swilling Molsons best neat.
Thanks for organising John :) Great night.
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Now that's a good Friday.
No prob, good craic.
Thanks for providing the space and snacks, great setup as always!
I think we need to fire our photographer!
Otherwise, great night lads! :)
I forgot to say goodbye to some of You. It was really nice to meet You Lads :)
Brilliant night- had a great time and learnt loads. Big thanks to John and Garry for the work they put into this. Good thing emptying the barrel wasn't the main event!
News just in - Lots of barrel gone down the drain already!
Quote from: johnrm on April 04, 2015, 04:48:25 PM
News just in - Lots of barrel gone down the drain already!
Did something go wrong with the barrel brew? Was that the dark lager?
Well, it ticked pretty much all the boxes in our off-flavor sheets! ;D
Well the training has already come in handy, opened a red wine today and noticed a nail polish smell to it and immediately thought it must be ethyl acetate.
Quote from: johnrm on April 04, 2015, 04:48:25 PM
News just in - Lots of barrel gone down the drain already!
That's a shame. sounds like it's time for that barrel to be retired to my garden, to live it's life out as a planter or maybe a base for a table in the brew shed.
I was tidying up last night and found 2 auto-syphons that are not mine. Johnrm owns one. Is anyone else missing an auto-syphon?
Garry I brought one in with my container, it must be mine. I'll give you a shout later on about picking it up sometime.
No bother Doc ;)
Part of the problem was that the beer just wasn't big enough to handle the barrel, even just the oak.
Totally agree, we should probably have aimed for 7-8% or higher.
Maybe for the next barrel.
I'm talking to someone about one...
BTW, I tasted the beer. It smells fine, just tastes sour, not what you want from a lager, but...
Any final words before I dump 40l? Mr. H?