Hi all,
I have 8 2 line beer coolers for sale for €60 each. They are mostly Cornelius CXT25. The are all fully operational and tested about a month ago. These could also be used to chill the water entering your immersion wort chiller when not being used for their intended purpose. They are collection only from Cabinteely, Dublin 18 and the price is non negotiable. Picture attached below.
I'll take one. At that price, I'd be a fool to pass on one :) I need a little advice though.
1.Will a line cooler cool beer in room temperature cornis to serving temp on demand?
2. How long after switching one on does it take before it is ready to cool beer to temp?
3. What do you need to connect lines to one of these? Does 3/8" line just slot into it or do I need something more?
Hi Cathal
Stick me down for one. Like the previous post said too good a price to turn down. What are the size of the connectors required for this?
Shanna
Hi molc,
Ye these are the same coolers that are used in pubs. They generally need a few hours to get cold. The spec can be seen at the following link: http://www.cornelius-emea.com/uploads/datasheets/CTX%2025%20Datasheet.pdf (http://www.cornelius-emea.com/uploads/datasheets/CTX%2025%20Datasheet.pdf)
These will allow you to hook up 2 cornies simultaneously and cool to serving temperature once operating.
Hope that helps. By the way I see you are looking for gas in the group buy. I should have about 20 mixed gas canisters in the next few weeks mostly empty but AJ Edge in Bray will fill then for you with CO2. I'll list here when I have them.
Thanks
Cool cheers for that. Like Shanna, I'll need to know what connections are required. Regardless, let me know when suits and I'll pop over and pick one up from you.
Oh yeah regarding the co2 tanks, someone just needs to setup a group buy thread for that. There's 12 buyers waiting for a supplier ;)
I'll take one too please.. can collect from Wednesday..
You say you have mixed gas bottles, aj won't touch these as different threads. The coolers you have also have a recirc pump making them perfect to hook up to a saddle or piped jacket wrapped around corneys.
And the connections are 3/8" JG
Not hijacking but I have JGs and saddles for sale :)
Quote from: CARA on September 13, 2014, 10:35:52 PM
Not hijacking but I have JGs and saddles for sale :)
You cunning person you ;) Let me get the cooler first and figure out what I need anyway. Maybe there's JG fittings already on it; wouldn't that be great.
OK I'm confused as I haven't a clue about kegging etc. For this order we won't be getting everything we need to dispense beer on draught (apart from the beer and means to chill the keg)?
Quote from: CARA on September 13, 2014, 10:34:22 PM
You say you have mixed gas bottles, aj won't touch these as different threads. The coolers you have also have a recirc pump making them perfect to hook up to a saddle or piped jacket wrapped around corneys.
Thanks Cara, wasn't aware of the AJ issue, good to know. Is there somewhere that will refill the mixed gas or is that a lost cause? Wasn't aware of the the recirc pump either good to know might be a good setup for temp control.
Quote from: delzep on September 13, 2014, 11:35:47 PM
OK I'm confused as I haven't a clue about kegging etc. For this order we won't be getting everything we need to dispense beer on draught (apart from the beer and means to chill the keg)?
This isn't an order, just a for sale listing. You have it right though; this is just a way to chill your beer when pouring from the tap. The usual ways people do it are either a line cooler or a kegerator, where the kegs are put inside a fridge and chilled.
Sorry didn't mean to jump in on this thread (feckin mobile posting)
Does the keg group buy contain everything bar chilling to dispense draught beer? If not and there are extra parts (and extra costs) I'll have to reconsider
Everything bar a co2 tank. Aj edge in bray does reconditioned ones for a decent price (like 40 I think?) There is a list of who needs tanks and someone needs to run with organising that, but it shouldn't be too hard to get.
If you get all the pieces in the group buy, you've done all the hard work. Kegs are a birch to find at good prices in this country.
Is it one tank per tap?
God no :) it's one tank per system. The regulator connects to the tank and then everything connects into that regulator. A 2kg tank should last you ages as well.
Once it's empty it's 10 to refill, so it's quite reasonable once you get it all running.
Quote from: molc on September 14, 2014, 12:34:43 AM
Quote from: delzep on September 13, 2014, 11:35:47 PM
OK I'm confused as I haven't a clue about kegging etc. For this order we won't be getting everything we need to dispense beer on draught (apart from the beer and means to chill the keg)?
This isn't an order, just a for sale listing. You have it right though; this is just a way to chill your beer when pouring from the tap. The usual ways people do it are either a line cooler or a kegerator, where the kegs are put inside a fridge and chilled.
Not only is it a way to chill your beer in the line from keg to tap, this is also a system which has the capability of pumping ice cold water around the made up circuit of your choice (AROUND YOUR FUCKING KEGS) thus keeping the whole system cellar perfect (pub quality temperatures people!!) (any cunt would think i was on commission here! If i hadnt just sold my brewing life i would have literally bought all 8) IN fact whatever is left (only the ones with the recirc) at 12 midday Sunday, can I buy please, PayPal. Nice one
Quote from: CARA on September 13, 2014, 10:35:52 PM
Not hijacking but I have JGs and saddles for sale :)
I checked your end of an ERA thread but did not see anything about saddles. Would you mind updating that thread with pics & prices & a brief explanation of how the saddle works /should be used.
Thanks
Shanna
I'll have one if they are still available
Ok so here's the current purchasers:
Molc
Shanna
McGrath
Sorcerers Aprentice
A Friend of mine has also bought one
So there are 3 left currently
Hi Cara,
Assuming your offer is serious, you can have the other 3 once 12 midday hits today, if no one else comes in. The post was at 2.30 in the morning so let me know if the offer stands, I'd never hold anyone to anything said after 1am. Can you tell show us a pick of the saddle setup you have. I would trade one of the kegs for your O2 setup with the stone if you we're interested?
Thanks
Brenmurph if it has recirc pump?
I'm in for one with recirculation pump.
Ok so here's the current purchasers:
1 Molc
2 Shanna
3 McGrath
4 Sorcerers Aprentice
5 A Friend of mine has also bought one
6 BrenMurph
7 Alealex
@Cara: I would be interested to see pics of saddle as well (or is it cask saddle and jacket?)
1 Molc
2 Shanna
3 McGrath
4 Sorcerers Aprentice
5 A Friend of mine has also bought one
6 BrenMurph
7 Alealex
8 pob (recirculation pump)
Just noting I'd like the recirculation pump version as well :) I'm around all week, in the evenings, so just send me a pm when suits to collect.
1 Molc(recirculation pump version)
2 Shanna
3 McGrath
4 Sorcerers Aprentice
5 A Friend of mine has also bought one
6 BrenMurph
7 Alealex
8 pob (recirculation pump)
Quote from: pob on September 14, 2014, 11:16:42 AM
1 Molc
2 Shanna (recirculation pump)
3 McGrath
4 Sorcerers Aprentice
5 A Friend of mine has also bought one
6 BrenMurph
7 Alealex
8 pob (recirculation pump)
I might stick my name down as first sub then if that is ok. Bench warmer ???.
Hey lads, I just had a look at these and i do not think they have recirculation pumps. If Cara is around, are you sure these have recirc pumps?
Quote from: cno1 on September 14, 2014, 01:49:13 PM
Hey lads, I just had a look at these and i do not think they have recirculation pumps. If Cara is around, are you sure these have recirc pumps?
According to the Data sheet it depends on the model.
Issue No: 5
STANDARD PRODUCT OPTIONS
CTX 25
48 1130 102 2 product coils, 6.8m long, 9.5mm (3/8") O.D. with agitator
48 1130 108 2 product coils 6.0m long, 9.5mm (3/8") O.D. with recirculation pump.
Check the serial numbers to confirm.
Cathal PM sent to try arrange collection later this afternoon. Will take one either way but would prefer one with the recirculation pump if it has one.
Shanna
Quote from: Dube on September 14, 2014, 02:03:33 PM
Very hard to tell from the photo, but if they have 4 pipes they have two circuits, 6 pipes is two circuits and recirc. I think I can only see 6 pipes on one of them.
Ye that's what I thought. There is only one with recirc and i'm gonna hang on to that one. So lads if you are still interested let me know.
You can stilll use them to cool, except you'll need a seperate circulation pump. I'm using one now to chill the hosepipe water down before it goes through the immersion chiller. Just pushing the Bud Lite through where the water would go, or the other way round, sorry.
Quote from: cno1 on September 14, 2014, 02:10:13 PM
Quote from: Dube on September 14, 2014, 02:03:33 PM
Very hard to tell from the photo, but if they have 4 pipes they have two circuits, 6 pipes is two circuits and recirc. I think I can only see 6 pipes on one of them.
Ye that's what I thought. There is only one with recirc and i'm gonna hang on to that one. So lads if you are still interested let me know.
Yes still interested can call around this evening between 17:00 - 18:00 if you send me on your address etc.
Shanna
Yeah I'm still up for one. Just let me know collection details.
Still interested. Please let my know collection details.
Hey guys, they can be collected from Wednesday evening. I'll PM everyone tomorrow with the address and my phone number.
Just saw de update re the pumps. If no pump im out so. My offer was for pumped version :)
Tried mine out lastnight. Working great. Really happy. Theres a water level sensor in mine to turn the refrigerator part on. I initially had about 5 litres of water in it just to see if it was working. I could hear the pump but it wasn't cooling. I started adding water and I heard a click and the cooler start up. Only put 5 litres in coz I knew I'd have to empty it again to move it. But should have just filled it at the beginning..
Thanks again cno1, gonna use this to chill my wort next week. looking forward to seeing how much time it saves.
Quote from: mcgrath on September 19, 2014, 02:09:00 PM
Thanks again cno1, gonna use this to chill my wort next week. looking forward to seeing how much time it saves.
No problem McGrath, glad you are happy with it.
I still have 1 (or possibly 2) left if anyone else is interested?
Looking forward to collect mine in the near future.
@mcgrath: same thing happened to me with my last cooler. use to think its not working till I filled it with water properly :-)
Quote from: mcgrath on September 19, 2014, 02:09:00 PM
Thanks again cno1, gonna use this to chill my wort next week. looking forward to seeing how much time it saves.
You'll need to get the wort down to below 35-40C before passing it through a beer chiller.
Also remember to flush it well with hot water afterwards to get the sticky wort out completely.
They're designed to chill liquid a pint at a time from room temperature, not 20L at a time from scalding.
Plan is to hook hose up to cooler. Then up to Copper chiller. Essentialy sending colder water through chiller than from tap. Wort stays in boiler. Have I missed something?
Ahh ok, that should work fine. I thought you were thinking of passing the hot wort through the chiller into the FV, to save wasting water :)
done two brews using this to pass cold water through the chiller. Really shortened my brewday. Used to take ages to get down the last 10deg or so. I meant to time it both times but got distracted but its a huge improvement. If I never use it as a beer cooler its still worth it..cheers!
Quote from: mcgrath on September 30, 2014, 10:24:24 PM
done two brews using this to pass cold water through the chiller. Really shortened my brewday. Used to take ages to get down the last 10deg or so. I meant to time it both times but got distracted but its a huge improvement. If I never use it as a beer cooler its still worth it..cheers!
How exactly do you use the cooler with the chiller? Would you mind writing a brief description & take a few photos.
Shanna
You run tap water tru the beer cooler and then into copper chiller dipped in your boiler.
But heard some guys run hot wort directly tru the cooler :o
First few litres come out at 10'C last few around 40'C. 22-25 litres aprox 23'C
Quote from: Shanna on September 30, 2014, 10:59:40 PM
Quote from: mcgrath on September 30, 2014, 10:24:24 PM
done two brews using this to pass cold water through the chiller. Really shortened my brewday. Used to take ages to get down the last 10deg or so. I meant to time it both times but got distracted but its a huge improvement. If I never use it as a beer cooler its still worth it..cheers!
How exactly do you use the cooler with the chiller? Would you mind writing a brief description & take a few photos.
Shanna
pics and me havent worked too well on this site before, but I'll try tomorrow. But basically, where I used to run a hose from the tap to my copper coil chiller. I instead run the hose to the Input of the beer cooler and then The Output to the copper coil chiller. Drops the temp of the water down considerably running through the copper coil, hence cooling the beer down quicker.
I always find getting from 30 deg down to 20 deg takes an age with tap water. The water passed through the beer cooler pulls the temp down very quick.
Does that make sense?
Mines the ctx25. I connect tap hose to far right input. The other input to its left is connected with a short piece of beer line to the far left output. This connects the two coils so the water passes twice through the cooler. The remaining output heads to the copper coil. Blow on the pipes if you aren't sure whats connected to what.
The input/output connections take 3/8 JG fittings. I'm using garden hose with jubilee clips with no leaks..
Quote from: alealex on September 30, 2014, 11:22:37 PM
But heard some guys run hot wort directly tru the cooler :o
First few litres come out at 10'C last few around 40'C. 22-25 litres aprox 23'C
In theory that doesn't remove Cold Break... but considering a lot of breweries do the same with heat exchangers, maybe it doesn't matter. :) Sounds very convenient..
Plenty of lads on here use heat exchangers or counterflow chillers and they brew good beers with it.
But I wonder what capacity is the coil in d cooler? would one loose much wort by chilling this way?
No need to loose the beer in the coils of the cooler at the end: Just conect a CO2 line and blow down lines with CO2
Its what I always do when changing beers (like at the RDS): Flush with water, then blow down with CO2 then put on new beer/cider
This is not the same as line cleaning after a beer has been dispensing for weeks!!
Quote from: Will_D on October 01, 2014, 11:55:31 AM
No need to loose the beer in the coils of the cooler at the end: Just conect a CO2 line and blow down lines with CO2
Its what I always do when changing beers (like at the RDS): Flush with water, then blow down with CO2 then put on new beer/cider
This is not the same as line cleaning after a beer has been dispensing for weeks!!
For line cleaning, I was planning on having a spare keg that first pushed a few litres of water through ,followed by a rince of starsan. Is that a reasonable approach?
Quote from: mcgrath on September 30, 2014, 11:26:23 PM
Quote from: Shanna on September 30, 2014, 10:59:40 PM
Quote from: mcgrath on September 30, 2014, 10:24:24 PM
done two brews using this to pass cold water through the chiller. Really shortened my brewday. Used to take ages to get down the last 10deg or so. I meant to time it both times but got distracted but its a huge improvement. If I never use it as a beer cooler its still worth it..cheers!
How exactly do you use the cooler with the chiller? Would you mind writing a brief description & take a few photos.
Shanna
pics and me havent worked too well on this site before, but I'll try tomorrow. But basically, where I used to run a hose from the tap to my copper coil chiller. I instead run the hose to the Input of the beer cooler and then The Output to the copper coil chiller. Drops the temp of the water down considerably running through the copper coil, hence cooling the beer down quicker.
I always find getting from 30 deg down to 20 deg takes an age with tap water. The water passed through the beer cooler pulls the temp down very quick.
Does that make sense?
Mines the ctx25. I connect tap hose to far right input. The other input to its left is connected with a short piece of beer line to the far left output. This connects the two coils so the water passes twice through the cooler. The remaining output heads to the copper coil. Blow on the pipes if you aren't sure whats connected to what.
The input/output connections take 3/8 JG fittings. I'm using garden hose with jubilee clips with no leaks..
That makes perfect sense thanks, no need for pics. Like the double pass through the cooler for extra effect. I wonder how much extra water it will save? My water pressure is very poor in my brewshed & even with the additional chugged pump it still takes 25-30 minutes to chill. Got to get me some additional jg fittings & tubing before I can try this.
Shanna
As regards water saving I collected a corny of hot water and a 25lt fermentor of warm water so less than 50lt altogether to get down to temp..
have you any left .interested in one
Quote from: The Jolley brewer on October 08, 2014, 09:13:54 AM
have you any left .interested in one
I do I have 2 left anyway maybe 3. One is yours if you want it. I'm on holidays from tomorrow until the 21st but you can collect it after that if it suits?
Great i'll see you at the end of the month