Hi all,
I'm in the latter stages of a feasibility study on a potential microbrewery start-up in the Dublin or Greater Dublin area. I'm quite passionate about beer and feel I have a lot to offer on the business side of things. However, I know nothing of the brewing side and I'm astute enough not to pretend I do. Therefore I need an adventurous brewer who is willing to work long and hard with me to build a company from scratch.
So if you are, or know someone with the skill to produce excellent beer for market, who wants to work hard full-time and is up for long days and hopefully some craic, let me know!
Thanks!
May help to say where ur planning to base. If a brewer is working long hard days and then has to battle a commute home he / she may not survive the first month. Why long hard days? Surely a good business will cost out staffing without breaking working time directive?
Quote from: brenmurph on September 18, 2014, 11:02:04 AM
May help to say where ur planning to base. If a brewer is working long hard days and then has to battle a commute home he / she may not survive the first month. Why long hard days? Surely a good business will cost out staffing without breaking working time directive?
- Read the first line again.
- How right you are. Only "good" businesses work 37.5 hours per week.
- I am not looking for an employee. I am seeking a business partner.
Hay Horse.... Heh heh (sorry it was out there) Your in the right place to find a man to suit what your looking for!
As an expressions of interest I think the greater Dublin area is a fair enough location at this stage (and the hint might be in the title, or is that just a rouse!!!). When people go for the interview they can get the details. I know if I was setting up a brewery in the "greater Tipperary area" I wouldn't be giving too much away until I was face to face with prospective candidates. The interview location will probably tell a lot.
A multi-national competition winning brewer like yourself Bren would a shoe in. East Kildare Greater Dublin.... that's the same place Yeah?
The rumor mill here is rampant! Some one here probably recommended Mr Horse to post here!
You can't go home when you have a slow run off or stuck sparge no matter how long you are there!
Did someone mention a 37.5 hour week, ye must never have being self employed before so ;). You will find plenty of good quality young brewers here that are flexible and inventive to adapt to the changing craft beer market. You mention you can bring to the table good business skills which is what is needed just as important. :).
Thanks guys for the positive comments!
Just to be clear, I am seeking a brewer who would like to be a business partner in a microbrewery, not an employee. Experience, talent and can-do attitude are the most important factors.
Quote from: DEMPSEY on September 18, 2014, 01:04:32 PM
Did someone mention a 37.5 hour week, ye must never have being self employed before so ;). You will find plenty of good quality young brewers here that are flexible and inventive to adapt to the changing craft beer market. You mention you can bring to the table good business skills which is what is needed just as important. :).
When your are doing something you love it's not a 37.5 hour working week, in fact it's not work at all!
Quote from: Rossa on September 18, 2014, 12:58:05 PM
You can't go home when you have a slow run off or stuck sparge no matter how long you are there!
Bollocks to that then.... I down tools at 5:30....... ;) 8)
Quote from: Dark Horse on September 18, 2014, 12:41:24 PM
Quote from: brenmurph on September 18, 2014, 11:02:04 AM
May help to say where ur planning to base. If a brewer is working long hard days and then has to battle a commute home he / she may not survive the first month. Why long hard days? Surely a good business will cost out staffing without breaking working time directive?
- Read the first line again.
brenmurph is right, Dublin is a big old place. Might make a huge difference to potential partner/employee whether you're thinking of siting your brewer in Shankill or Balbriggan.
There's going to be a lot of competition out there. Fair enough, craft beer is on an upwards trajectory, but can the craft beer drinking public support all of these new breweries? I did wonder at the RDS if all of the breweries there would still be in existence in a couple of years time..
Quote from: Bubbles on September 18, 2014, 01:59:01 PM
Quote from: Dark Horse on September 18, 2014, 12:41:24 PM
Quote from: brenmurph on September 18, 2014, 11:02:04 AM
May help to say where ur planning to base. If a brewer is working long hard days and then has to battle a commute home he / she may not survive the first month. Why long hard days? Surely a good business will cost out staffing without breaking working time directive?
- Read the first line again.
brenmurph is right, Dublin is a big old place. Might make a huge difference to potential partner/employee whether you're thinking of siting your brewer in Shankill or Balbriggan.
There's going to be a lot of competition out there. Fair enough, craft beer is on an upwards trajectory, but can the craft beer drinking public support all of these new breweries? I did wonder at the RDS if all of the breweries there would still be in existence in a couple of years time..
The ones making good beer and charging a reasonable price will be.
Quote from: Bubbles on September 18, 2014, 01:51:05 PM
Quote from: Rossa on September 18, 2014, 12:58:05 PM
You can't go home when you have a slow run off or stuck sparge no matter how long you are there!
Bollocks to that then.... I down tools at 5:30....... ;) 8)
But you have worked in the civil service also!!! Now stop surfing web sites and get back to work :)
Shanna
Hi Dark Horse,
Can you give us a bit more detail on the the size of the system you are considering in terms of 1000L per batch? Also the projected number of batches per week and number of beers in the core range?
In terms of a partnership mentioned what kind of capital contribution would you be looking for from the partner? What kind of partner structure are you proposing?
Thanks
Also, who can you provide as your references Dark Horse?
No offence, but we don't know you from Adam and your first post on here is looking for money and labor.
Being 'quite passionate about beer' is hardly the most solid of foundations for a business in a craft you know nothing about.
Brewing skills alone are no guarantee of business success and OP was fairly clear their skills were on the business side and TBH I don't think they need to justify their bona fides, other than to that elusive business partner.
Ok original post sounded like a job advert for a brewer role. Clearly its an investor business partner request having read the thread. @ damien no interest in a brewery business. Im / we are happy producing medal winning beers and doing some teaching and mentoring, however if a brewer job was available.. Say o haras for example and offered a wage that would ensure a half decent living for a 39 hr week id be considering it..... Not sure if such a job wud come up...
@ dark horse
As 2014 nhc best brewer and recently uk nationals double gold winners taking 11.1% of the gold medals on offer we can brew great beer consistently. We also brewed highest score summer sessions, 2nd monochrome comp, 2nd in ncb, 2nd in liffey and have hosted brew days too many to mention and mentored and continue to mentor many new brewers. We brew beer from spruce, beetroot, liquorice, fresh corn and have produced oak cask treats that are still talked about especially following our german themed wedding beerfest. So fit the job description but not interested in a brewing business and not interested in a job working hard for long hours.......but if u would like a chat re brewing our door is always open @maltcrackers brewhouse / clubhouse
i'lllllllllllllllllllll take it! you put up the money and we can brew my IPA the best IPA in ireland!!! (yet to be awarded)
Quote from: mr hoppy on September 18, 2014, 06:52:58 PM
Brewing skills alone are no guarantee of business success and OP was fairly clear their skills were on the business side and TBH I don't think they need to justify their bona fides, other than to that elusive business partner.
Thanks Mr Hoppy. To my mind, your comments have a resonable and measured view of my original post.
Quote from: brenmurph on September 18, 2014, 07:00:15 PM
however if a brewer job was available.. Say o haras for example and offered a wage that would ensure a half decent living for a 39 hr week id be considering it
39 hour week? Have I wandered into the joke thread ;D
Best of luck with the venture dark horse. I would imagine there are massive challenges ahead, raw materials supply chain, marketing, distribution, end point of sale material, not to mention the normal start up considerations for a new business. Keep us up to date on progress, if nothing else there are plenty of educated beer tasters here :)