I have looked on the website below and i can't find the kettle elements for putting in a keg boiler, i need to get a couple of them,is he not doing them anymore or am i just missing them on the site ? ;D
http://charlieshiels.ie/index.php?route=common/home
That does not look like a Charlie Shiels element.
Why not email/phone them and ask?
Quote from: johnrm on September 29, 2014, 07:53:44 AM
That does not look like a Charlie Shiels element.
Why not email/phone them and ask?
That is my current Argos kettle elements from my HLT sorry added that pic after posting initially. Any idea how much the Charlie Shiels ones are ? On consult with a certain apple headed friend ;) we still have no idea why this has happened,he has suggested the design below as a viable alternative with the coils not being as compressed together, since i have them out now for cleaning i want to get a couple spare in case they go pop next time.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Stainless-Electric-Kettle-Element-Heater/dp/B00901DRP0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1411983911&sr=8-2&keywords=kettle+elements
The CS ones do i still have to earth them if using on a metal vessel of any kind orr are they earthed already through the plug ? :D
They're about 13 quid not including the lead
Quote from: Dube on September 29, 2014, 11:22:35 AM
Is that scorched wort? If so it happens with the CS ones aswell, but a soak in Oxy sorts it out.
Over time the nickel plating comes off too, as these are meant for boiling water, not acidic wort.
No idea it was a large high gravity boil,my kettle looked the same as these,i had to keep switching between the kettle and the HLT to get a boil going,what a dose,i was only pasteurising though for 30 minutes(had to) so no worries there. Never had this happen before and with just getting back into the beginning of AG i have no idea what this is.
Oxy won't work on this i already tried,neither did a hot starsan bath,so i am off to town later to get me the biggest tub of citric i can find. ;D
Quote from: Greg2013 on September 29, 2014, 10:48:57 AM
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Stainless-Electric-Kettle-Element-Heater/dp/B00901DRP0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1411983911&sr=8-2&keywords=kettle+elements
I have this element and it works well. It doesn't scorch as much as my argos kettle element and the shape of it us much easier to clean in place.
Note though that it's 1,500kW which is a bit low. I use 2 elements to heat the water and then leave one on for the boil. You'd be all day waiting for one of these to heat 20l to boiling.
Quote from: John_C on September 29, 2014, 11:34:14 AM
Quote from: Greg2013 on September 29, 2014, 10:48:57 AM
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Stainless-Electric-Kettle-Element-Heater/dp/B00901DRP0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1411983911&sr=8-2&keywords=kettle+elements
I have this element and it works well. It doesn't scorch as much as my argos kettle element and the shape of it us much easier to clean in place.
Note though that it's 1,500kW which is a bit low. I use 2 elements to heat the water and then leave one on for the boil. You'd be all day waiting for one of these to heat 20l to boiling.
Yes and the low KW is the one thing stopping me getting these. ;D
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310759398910?redirect=mobile
These are what I use. 2.75kw and I use two in a keggle. The listing I linked includes the connector which are hard to find but they do them without that as well.
Quote from: armedcor on September 29, 2014, 11:44:24 AM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310759398910?redirect=mobile
These are what I use. 2.75kw and I use two in a keggle. The listing I linked includes the connector which are hard to find but they do them without that as well.
Bit pricier than what i believe CS has them for but a very good link to have as backup,over 30 euro for one element though ouch. ;D
Quote from: Dube on September 29, 2014, 12:14:18 PM
Quote from: Greg2013 on September 29, 2014, 11:32:39 AM
No idea it was a large high gravity boil,
Scorched wort, defo.
How that happen then ? Never happened before. ;D
Quote from: Greg2013 on September 29, 2014, 11:32:39 AM
Quote from: Dube on September 29, 2014, 11:22:35 AM
Is that scorched wort? If so it happens with the CS ones aswell, but a soak in Oxy sorts it out.
Over time the nickel plating comes off too, as these are meant for boiling water, not acidic wort.
No idea it was a large high gravity boil,my kettle looked the same as these,i had to keep switching between the kettle and the HLT to get a boil going,what a dose,i was only pasteurising though for 30 minutes(had to) so no worries there. Never had this happen before and with just getting back into the beginning of AG i have no idea what this is.
Oxy won't work on this i already tried,neither did a hot starsan bath,so i am off to town later to get me the biggest tub of citric i can find. ;D
Wouldn't bother with the citric and would go straight for the caustic. Had elements like that in the past, when I did BIAB, and found caustic was the only job with that much crud. You obviously need to be very careful with it.
Quote from: Greg2013 on September 29, 2014, 11:54:22 AM
Quote from: armedcor on September 29, 2014, 11:44:24 AM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310759398910?redirect=mobile
These are what I use. 2.75kw and I use two in a keggle. The listing I linked includes the connector which are hard to find but they do them without that as well.
Bit pricier than what i believe CS has them for but a very good link to have as backup,over 30 euro for one element though ouch. ;D
Yea definitely on the pricer side. Didn't seem too bad at the time haha and I had them parcel motel to kerry so the shipping wasnt as bad
Quote from: Taf on September 29, 2014, 12:35:00 PM
Quote from: Greg2013 on September 29, 2014, 11:32:39 AM
Quote from: Dube on September 29, 2014, 11:22:35 AM
Is that scorched wort? If so it happens with the CS ones aswell, but a soak in Oxy sorts it out.
Over time the nickel plating comes off too, as these are meant for boiling water, not acidic wort.
No idea it was a large high gravity boil,my kettle looked the same as these,i had to keep switching between the kettle and the HLT to get a boil going,what a dose,i was only pasteurising though for 30 minutes(had to) so no worries there. Never had this happen before and with just getting back into the beginning of AG i have no idea what this is.
Oxy won't work on this i already tried,neither did a hot starsan bath,so i am off to town later to get me the biggest tub of citric i can find. ;D
Wouldn't bother with the citric and would go straight for the caustic. Had elements like that in the past, when I did BIAB, and found caustic was the only job with that much crud. You obviously need to be very careful with it.
How much of a soak would the need or do i have to worry about how long i leave them in the caustic ? ;D
Quote from: Dube on September 29, 2014, 01:19:47 PM
Quote from: Greg2013 on September 29, 2014, 12:26:47 PM
Quote from: Dube on September 29, 2014, 12:14:18 PM
Quote from: Greg2013 on September 29, 2014, 11:32:39 AM
No idea it was a large high gravity boil,
Scorched wort, defo.
How that happen then ? Never happened before. ;D
A lot of extra sugars and stuff in the wort. Happens all the time. Oxy will get it off, eventually. Might take a few days.
if it's burnt on carbon oxy won't shift it, trust me I have tried it. Caustic is also dodgy given how dangerous it is. I started to manually clean my with the back of a knife. it's a pain in the ass but it works. I also combine this with a green scouring pad and this generally shifts it.
Shanna
After every boil I get at mine with the green pad to get any build up off the element. Working so far..
Both the elements from the HLT are out and soaking in a bucket of caustic in the bottom of the bath,gloves and eye protection were used. Its removing the crud but very very slowly,tbh the citric acid boil while they were in the keg always did a better job and faster too.
Plans are afoot with my m8 to change the whole setup,the HLT is aluminium and now that the elements are out i am retiring it to be repurposed somewhere down the line for non brewing purposes. The current stainless keg boiler will now be the new HLT,and for my new kettle i am finally going to get that big arse SS stock pot out of the attic that i actually forgot i had. ;D
Alright Greg2013?
I'm going converting my own 33 litre SS stock pot to electric myself, seeing as your about to do this could u or would you mind PM me where you got your elements, valve, thermometer and what u used to still??
Quote from: Gugs44 on October 01, 2014, 06:33:46 PM
Alright Greg2013?
I'm going converting my own 33 litre SS stock pot to electric myself, seeing as your about to do this could u or would you mind PM me where you got your elements, valve, thermometer and what u used to still??
The elements are from Charlie Shiels in Dublin,i have a friend picking them up and dropping them off to me. The valve i already had on my old HLT so that is going on the new kettle.The stock pot above is going to be my kettle not my HLT so no need for a thermometer,i do have a stand alone thermometer i got off ebay i will try to find the link to. To drill my friend that is dropping off the elements is bringing his Q max cutter so no idea where he got that sorry. ;D