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Title: Heat source for fermentation fridge
Post by: delzep on October 22, 2014, 10:47:19 PM
Have read about tube heaters and brew belts....any recommendations there? Don't fancy the idea of a lightbulb so I'm ruling that one out. What are the pros and cons of tube heaters and brew belts?
Title: Re: Heat source for fermentation fridge
Post by: delzep on October 22, 2014, 10:56:24 PM
Just don't seem safe to leave on for days on end
Title: Re: Heat source for fermentation fridge
Post by: imark on October 22, 2014, 11:17:12 PM
I use a bulb in mine. It's only on for a few minutes of the hour. Had planned to get something more sophisticated but the good old incandescent bulb does the trick nicely and has the benefit of very cheap and available replacement should it die mid fermentation.
Title: Re: Heat source for fermentation fridge
Post by: LordEoin on October 22, 2014, 11:50:56 PM
i use a brew belt, never let me down so far.
Title: Re: Heat source for fermentation fridge
Post by: DEMPSEY on October 23, 2014, 07:38:28 PM
Use a brew belt meself. Often thought that those who fancy the bulb method have a penchant for indulging in torture. As in "Vee Vill leave on  the light all day and night and you yeasties Vill Vork and vork until you produce the beer,vork vill set you free"  :D :P
Title: Re: Heat source for fermentation fridge
Post by: alealex on October 23, 2014, 08:56:48 PM
I use bulb in one of my fermenting fridges and hairdryer in the other.
The one with hairdryer does great job. Hairdryer is ionic or anti static - so it makes stouts really silky and smooth.
Title: Re: Heat source for fermentation fridge
Post by: Beerbuddha on October 23, 2014, 09:11:06 PM
2kw  electric fan heater with overheat protection.
Should pick one up for 8 Euro. Sold in woodies B&Q
Title: Re: Heat source for fermentation fridge
Post by: Garry on October 24, 2014, 11:18:57 AM
There's a great experiment on JBK (http://www.jimsbeerkit.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=68518) about STC probe placement. He found that a tube heater with the probe stuck to the side of the FV gave the least temperature fluctuation in the beer.

As for tube heater Vs bulb? I reckon there's not much between them. If you take a tube heater apart, it's just a very thin wire wrapped around the inside of the tube. Similar to a bulb's filament.

I used to use one of those 2kw heaters too. But after getting a few scary ESB bills last winter, I put it into retirement!
Title: Re: Heat source for fermentation fridge
Post by: DEMPSEY on October 24, 2014, 01:57:35 PM
Quote from: Dube on October 23, 2014, 07:51:29 PM
Yeast don't have eyes so they don't notice the light on.
So they would make good porn stars so as they make babies.
Title: Re: Heat source for fermentation fridge
Post by: Sorcerers Apprentice on October 24, 2014, 02:08:09 PM
I remember people used to use ceramic infra red lamps in greenhouses, no light just heat
http://www.ceramicx.com/ceramic-bulbs/
Title: Re: Heat source for fermentation fridge
Post by: delzep on October 24, 2014, 02:26:02 PM
Quote from: DEMPSEY on October 24, 2014, 01:57:35 PM
Quote from: Dube on October 23, 2014, 07:51:29 PM
Yeast don't have eyes so they don't notice the light on.
So they would make good porn stars so as they make babies.
(http://i.imgur.com/JDVLbp0.jpg)
Title: Re: Heat source for fermentation fridge
Post by: imark on October 24, 2014, 02:26:34 PM
The bulb I use is 30W. I'd be kinda nervous of using anything that was much more powerful than that.
Title: Re: Heat source for fermentation fridge
Post by: DEMPSEY on October 24, 2014, 03:25:44 PM
I remember when I was a little boy my granddad would put up a heating lamp over the banbh's after they were born to keep them cosy and allow them to grow up into great bacon. :)
Title: Re: Heat source for fermentation fridge
Post by: Will_D on October 24, 2014, 08:30:54 PM
Quote from: DEMPSEY on October 24, 2014, 03:25:44 PM
I remember when I was a little boy my granddad would put up a heating lamp over the banbh's after they were born to keep them cosy and allow them to grow up into great bacon. :)
He must of put two over your cot!

Sorry Mr D. couldn't resist  >:D
Title: Re: Heat source for fermentation fridge
Post by: baphomite51 on October 25, 2014, 10:58:32 AM
iv got the same question. is it possible to have the fridge at its cool temps and have a brew belt controlled by an STC heating the carboy, so you could keep beers cold in the fridge but keep the beer warm in the carboy?, or is it more a case of controlling the ambient temp in the fridge? would using a brewbelt on the glass carboy crack it?
Title: Re: Heat source for fermentation fridge
Post by: Pheeel on October 25, 2014, 12:28:04 PM
I'd probably control the fridge with the stc instead. Heat belt should be fine with glass carboy
Title: Re: Heat source for fermentation fridge
Post by: baphomite51 on October 25, 2014, 02:43:29 PM
Quote from: Pheeel on October 25, 2014, 12:28:04 PM
I'd probably control the fridge with the stc instead. Heat belt should be fine with glass carboy

does that not nacker the compressor, iv heard its not good swithcing it on or off??
Title: Re: Heat source for fermentation fridge
Post by: Pheeel on October 26, 2014, 12:26:21 AM
Well I'm an idiot. You'd control both with the STC. Compressor should be fine. The default setting should be okay. Lots of folks use this setup for fermentation or kegerarators