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Title: First German Pilsner Brew.
Post by: Greg2013 on February 12, 2015, 01:07:54 PM
Brewed my first German Pilsner yesterday,pilsner malt and carpils with hallertaeur and saaz hops. ;D


21.0 litres @ 1050,not bad volume is spot on,OG a little high should have been 1046 but close enough i reckon. Got her down to 15 c with the chiller,pitched two packs w34/70,going to let it sit in the spare room overnight then into fermentation chamber @13c tomorrow. ;D
Title: Re: First German Pilsner Brew.
Post by: Greg2013 on February 12, 2015, 01:10:30 PM
Ok so i pitched two packs w34/70 yeast on this last night and just left it overnight in the room.Today i put it in the fermentation chamber as you see,atm it is the temp in the chamber is 14 Celsius. Am i good to go with this ? Advice appreciated on how to proceed from here,i relaise i did not use a German lager yeast but i am not setup yet to grow liquid yeast starters.  :-\
Title: Re: First German Pilsner Brew.
Post by: johnrm on February 12, 2015, 02:52:09 PM
Here is what Fermentis have to say about that yeast...
http://www.fermentis.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/SFG_S23.pdf
Title: Re: First German Pilsner Brew.
Post by: Greg2013 on February 12, 2015, 08:11:54 PM
Holding steady now at 13.9 Celsius. ;D
Title: Re: First German Pilsner Brew.
Post by: Ozbrewer on February 12, 2015, 10:02:39 PM
Drop,your fermentation down to 9.5c. Its better, it'll take a little longer. 2 weeks at primary is ok at 9.5c.
Title: Re: First German Pilsner Brew.
Post by: Greg2013 on February 12, 2015, 10:34:26 PM
Quote from: Ozbrewer on February 12, 2015, 10:02:39 PM
Drop,your fermentation down to 9.5c. Its better, it'll take a little longer. 2 weeks at primary is ok at 9.5c.

After two weeks @ 9.5c where to from there ? ;D
Title: Re: First German Pilsner Brew.
Post by: Ozbrewer on February 12, 2015, 10:43:18 PM
Raise it 17 for a d-rest. 3 days. Then crash it to as low as the fridge can handle. I presume you have an stc - set it 1c and leave for two weeks.
Title: Re: First German Pilsner Brew.
Post by: Greg2013 on February 12, 2015, 10:53:08 PM
Quote from: Ozbrewer on February 12, 2015, 10:43:18 PM
Raise it 17 for a d-rest. 3 days. Then crash it to as low as the fridge can handle. I presume you have an stc - set it 1c and leave for two weeks.

Not in that fridge i don't have an stc1000,however my keg freezer i do so i can do that quite easily. Tbh i read the spec on that yeast and i thought 9.5c would put the yeast to sleep ? Anyway have it chilling down now so should not be long before it gets to 9.5c,it has only been down 24 hours so i figure better to change things now than stay fiddling with them eh ? ;D
Title: Re: First German Pilsner Brew.
Post by: Oh Crap on February 12, 2015, 11:03:02 PM
Quote from: Ozbrewer on February 12, 2015, 10:43:18 PM
Raise it 17 for a d-rest. 3 days. Then crash it to as low as the fridge can handle. I presume you have an stc - set it 1c and leave for two weeks.
Correct me if I'm wrong... I would raise it upto 16/17 THEN leave it at that for 3 days....cold crash to 1c for 2 weeks or longer if necessary... Tomatoes tomatos I know
Title: Re: First German Pilsner Brew.
Post by: Ozbrewer on February 12, 2015, 11:41:55 PM
@oh crap - just left out the "to", but thought it was implied. You an English teacher?    ;D

@greg - it won't go to sleep.  Spec said down to 9c, but the yeast will work very slowly at a lower temp. with beer you need patience, and with a lager, even more. Low and slow will give a very crisp clean beer.

Yes, best to do it now.
Title: Re: First German Pilsner Brew.
Post by: LordEoin on February 13, 2015, 10:41:46 AM
personally i'd ferment this at 12, the bottom end of the ideal temperature range, unless you pitched a big-ass starter.
Title: Re: First German Pilsner Brew.
Post by: Greg2013 on February 13, 2015, 11:09:42 AM
Quote from: LordEoin on February 13, 2015, 10:41:46 AM
personally i'd ferment this at 12, the bottom end of the ideal temperature range, unless you pitched a big-ass starter.

No just pitched two packs of w34/70 dry yeast,yes trying to keep it between 10-12 c,i hope to have another stc-1000 by the time i do the next one so that my fermentation control is more precise. ;D
Title: Re: First German Pilsner Brew.
Post by: Greg2013 on February 13, 2015, 03:16:31 PM
Sorted now under proper stc1000 control @12C. ;D
Title: Re: First German Pilsner Brew.
Post by: Greg2013 on February 13, 2015, 10:14:38 PM
Be handy if i got the name of the yeast right i suppose  :-[ Below is the one i used,i got confussed because i am using the s23 on the next lager brew not this one. ;D

https://www.thehomebrewcompany.ie/saflager-w3470-dry-lager-yeast-115g-p-1234.html
Title: Re: First German Pilsner Brew.
Post by: brenmurph on February 14, 2015, 12:06:44 AM
Isnt w3470 weihenstephan lager...orobably one of de best?
Title: Re: First German Pilsner Brew.
Post by: Greg2013 on February 14, 2015, 12:47:28 AM
Quote from: brenmurph on February 14, 2015, 12:06:44 AM
Isnt w3470 weihenstephan lager...orobably one of de best?

I believe so for a dry yeast yes  ;D