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Title: hops for hoppy flavour
Post by: rje66 on February 12, 2015, 08:47:20 PM
Have a coopers English bitter in fv ,hacked it and it tastes quite bitter, I used ekg and target during the boil, what's best to dry hop to get a bit of hoppy flavor into it or have I missed the boat????
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Title: Re: hops for hoppy flavour
Post by: Frequent Sequence on February 12, 2015, 10:46:11 PM
Dry hops wont give you much if any flavor they give lots of aroma.
I have made hop tea a few times successfully. They work best if you use some fermentables in the tea as the flavor will be less harsh and vegetal (grassy).
But if you are in secondary or bottling it's probably best to go with just hops and water. For 20 liters boil for five minutes 1.2 liters of water with your choice of late addition hops (Fuggles would probable fit the style). The style of your beer and the amount of flavor desired would determine the amount of hops.  Strain then cool the liquid and add to your fermentor.
Hope it works out
Title: Re: hops for hoppy flavour
Post by: LordEoin on February 12, 2015, 11:40:04 PM
it all depends on what you consider a 'hoppy flavor' too. list a few beers with the hoppy flavor you're after.
Title: Re: hops for hoppy flavour
Post by: Bubbles on February 13, 2015, 08:58:57 AM
Dry hops will give plenty of flavour to your beer, it's a persistent homebrewing myth that dry hops only contribute aroma. Makes no sense at al. During dry-hopping, the alcohols are dissolving the hop oils into the beer giving both flavour and aroma.

OP you could dry hop with some more EKG if that's you have - or something American like Cascade if you want a more citrussy flavour.
Title: Re: hops for hoppy flavour
Post by: Taf on February 13, 2015, 10:01:02 AM
Quote from: Bubbles on February 13, 2015, 08:58:57 AM
Dry hops will give plenty of flavour to your beer, it's a persistent homebrewing myth that dry hops only contribute aroma. Makes no sense at al. During dry-hopping, the alcohols are dissolving the hop oils into the beer giving both flavour and aroma.

OP you could dry hop with some more EKG if that's you have - or something American like Cascade if you want a more citrussy flavour.

Completely agree. I always dry hop, and get plenty of flavour from. I often keg hop as well if I need a bit more flavour.
Title: Re: hops for hoppy flavour
Post by: Martin on February 13, 2015, 12:10:04 PM
My last batch was Coopers English Bitter which I dry hopped with 30g Cascade. The result is amazing :) Not sure though if this is what you're looking for when you speak about "hoppy" flavor but the beer turned out very fresh and aromatic. Great bitter indeed.
Title: Re: hops for hoppy flavour
Post by: rje66 on February 13, 2015, 01:26:58 PM
Quote from: LordEoin on February 12, 2015, 11:40:04 PM
it all depends on what you consider a 'hoppy flavor' too. list a few beers with the hoppy flavor you're after.

Something like oharas ipa
Title: Re: hops for hoppy flavour
Post by: rje66 on February 13, 2015, 01:41:26 PM
The more I think about it aren't smell and taste very closely related????
Title: Re: hops for hoppy flavour
Post by: Taf on February 13, 2015, 02:37:47 PM
Quote from: rje66 on February 13, 2015, 01:41:26 PM
The more I think about it aren't smell and taste very closely related????
They are, but I spend more time tasting my beer,  than I do smelling it.
Title: Re: hops for hoppy flavour
Post by: LordEoin on February 13, 2015, 04:00:33 PM
if you're looking down the O Hara's IPA route something like cascade should set you in the right direction.
Title: Re: hops for hoppy flavour
Post by: rje66 on February 13, 2015, 05:41:10 PM
Thanks for replies, so about 50g ish is about right?
Title: Re: hops for hoppy flavour
Post by: johnrm on February 14, 2015, 03:12:18 PM
That should do it.
To get a better flavor, consider what frequent sequence says, except, take a litre of fermented wort and boil...
Cool this and add back to fermenter.