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Title: Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: auralabuse on March 26, 2015, 02:30:40 PM
Anyone have a decent recipe for this?, you know, it pours itself and you feel the hair growing on your chest as you drink it down.
Title: Re: Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: molc on March 26, 2015, 03:20:28 PM
Here's one I did as an extract before. Recipe is in all grain, as I can't find the original now. If I was to do it again, I'd probably simplify it a good bit. It's tasty but there's a lot in it:
Style: Imperial Stout
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 30.26 l
Post Boil Volume: 26.00 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 20.00 l   
Bottling Volume: 19.00 l
Estimated OG: 1.079 SG
Estimated Color: 97.5 EBC
Estimated IBU: 82.8 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 62.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 77.5 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt                   Name                                     Type          #        %/IBU         
6.957 kg              Pale Malt (2 Row) US (3.9 EBC)           Grain         1        80.9 %       
0.515 kg              Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (236.4 EBC)   Grain         2        6.0 %         
0.344 kg              Chocolate Malt (886.5 EBC)               Grain         3        4.0 %         
0.286 kg              Black Barley (Stout) (985.0 EBC)         Grain         4        3.3 %         
0.271 kg              Biscuit Malt (45.3 EBC)                  Grain         5        3.1 %         
0.228 kg              Black (Patent) Malt (985.0 EBC)          Grain         6        2.7 %         
84.09 g               Cluster [7.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min         Hop           7        72.0 IBUs     
1.06 tsp              Irish Moss (Boil 15.0 mins)              Fining        8        -             
13.85 g               Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 15.0 min     Hop           9        4.5 IBUs     
13.85 g               Northern Brewer [8.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop           10       3.8 IBUs     
27.70 g               Liberty [4.30 %] - Boil 2.0 min          Hop           11       2.4 IBUs     
1.1 pkg               California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) [35. Yeast         12       -             
14.81 g               Liberty [4.30 %] - Dry Hop 50.0 Days     Hop           13       0.0 IBUs     


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 8.601 kg
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Name              Description                             Step Temperature    Step Time     
Mash In           Add 22.43 l of water at 72.8 C          65.6 C              75 min       

Sparge: Batch sparge with 16.44 l water at 75.6 C
Title: Re: Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: Hop Bomb on March 26, 2015, 03:46:30 PM
This scored 43 at this years NHC comp. Id have scored it 46 myself  :D   Massive beer but very very drinkable. Ignore all the volumes etc if you brew it as they're particular to my kit. The % ingredients is all you need to key into your own brew kit. Based on a famous RIS from the USA.


Recipe: Black Death RIS
Brewer: Thomas Delaney
Asst Brewer:
Style: Imperial Stout
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 58.25 l
Post Boil Volume: 52.00 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 40.00 l   
Bottling Volume: 36.00 l
Estimated OG: 1.104 SG
Estimated Color: 93.8 EBC
Estimated IBU: 71.8 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 90.0 %
Boil Time: 75 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt                   Name                                     Type          #        %/IBU         
15.01 kg              Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (5.9 EBC)           Grain         1        77.0 %       
0.68 kg               Oats, Malted (2.0 EBC)                   Grain         2        3.5 %         
0.68 kg               Special B Malt (354.6 EBC)               Grain         3        3.5 %         
0.68 kg               Wheat Malt, Pale (Weyermann) (3.9 EBC)   Grain         4        3.5 %         
0.58 kg               Carafa III (Weyermann) (1034.2 EBC)      Grain         5        3.0 %         
0.49 kg               Aromatic Malt (51.2 EBC)                 Grain         6        2.5 %         
0.39 kg               Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (78.8 EBC)    Grain         7        2.0 %         
0.39 kg               Roasted Barley (Simpsons) (1083.5 EBC)   Grain         8        2.0 %         
0.19 kg               Black Malt (Simpsons) (1083.5 EBC)       Grain         9        1.0 %         
0.19 kg               Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (236.4 EBC)   Grain         10       1.0 %         
0.19 kg               Chocolate Malt (Simpsons) (847.1 EBC)    Grain         11       1.0 %         
100.00 g              Northern Brewer [8.50 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop           12       30.2 IBUs     
70.00 g               Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Boil 60. Hop           13       34.8 IBUs     
20.00 g               Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 15.0 min     Hop           14       3.5 IBUs     
22.00 g               Styrian Goldings [5.40 %] - Steep/Whirlp Hop           15       1.6 IBUs     
22.00 g               Willamette [5.50 %] - Steep/Whirlpool  3 Hop           16       1.7 IBUs     
1.0 pkg               Safale American  (DCL/Fermentis #US-05)  Yeast         17       -             


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 19.49 kg
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Name              Description                             Step Temperat Step Time     
Mash In           Add 50.84 l of water at 73.2 C          65.6 C        75 min       

Sparge: Fly sparge with 28.93 l water at 75.6 C
Notes:
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1026 FG on 5th October 2014 // kegged same day

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Title: Re: Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: winstonia on March 27, 2015, 12:34:16 PM
1 pack of yeast into 40L of that?!

How long was it aged for?

Actually did up a mock  for a 12L batch based on those recipe %.

Mottley brew is going to love me when I send it in for crushing...

http://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/view/228968/ris

standard 11 different grains

Any reason why the SRM is low?
Title: Re: Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: Hop Bomb on March 29, 2015, 05:01:03 PM
Ignore any of the yeast & water stuff. I never really edit any of that in beersmith. It was 60 or 70g of fresh US05 slurry in each carboy iirc. Plus a lot of pure O2 aeration. Its been in a cold corny since Oct 5th. SRM - ignore that too. Its black as night with a mocha head.
Title: Re: Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: Shanna on March 29, 2015, 05:15:11 PM
Quote from: auralabuse on March 26, 2015, 02:30:40 PM
Anyone have a decent recipe for this?, you know, it pours itself and you feel the hair growing on your chest as you drink it down.
Russian imperial porter recipe that we brewed for old whiskey barrel. Came 2nd in the barrel competition in 2014. 

http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.com/forum/index.php/topic,2258.0.html

Shanna
Title: Re: Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: auralabuse on March 29, 2015, 05:59:22 PM
Quote from: Shanna on March 29, 2015, 05:15:11 PM
Quote from: auralabuse on March 26, 2015, 02:30:40 PM
Anyone have a decent recipe for this?, you know, it pours itself and you feel the hair growing on your chest as you drink it down.
Russian imperial porter recipe that we brewed for old whiskey barrel. Came 2nd in the barrel competition in 2014. 

http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.com/forum/index.php/topic,2258.0.html

Shanna
When you say we shanna, are you with a brewery?
Title: Re: Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: Shanna on March 29, 2015, 06:17:31 PM
Quote from: auralabuse on March 29, 2015, 05:59:22 PM
Quote from: Shanna on March 29, 2015, 05:15:11 PM
Quote from: auralabuse on March 26, 2015, 02:30:40 PM
Anyone have a decent recipe for this?, you know, it pours itself and you feel the hair growing on your chest as you drink it down.
Russian imperial porter recipe that we brewed for old whiskey barrel. Came 2nd in the barrel competition in 2014. 

http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.com/forum/index.php/topic,2258.0.html

Shanna
When you say we shanna, are you with a brewery?
No perish the thought :) We as in 10 home brewers from around Dublin & Wicklow brewed 240 litres of the recipe and left it age in an old cask whiskey barrel for around 10 months.

Shanna
Title: Re: Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: auralabuse on March 29, 2015, 06:52:21 PM
Quote from: Shanna on March 29, 2015, 06:17:31 PM
Quote from: auralabuse on March 29, 2015, 05:59:22 PM
Quote from: Shanna on March 29, 2015, 05:15:11 PM
Quote from: auralabuse on March 26, 2015, 02:30:40 PM
Anyone have a decent recipe for this?, you know, it pours itself and you feel the hair growing on your chest as you drink it down.
Russian imperial porter recipe that we brewed for old whiskey barrel. Came 2nd in the barrel competition in 2014. 

http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.com/forum/index.php/topic,2258.0.html

Shanna
When you say we shanna, are you with a brewery?
No perish the thought :) We as in 10 home brewers from around Dublin & Wicklow brewed 240 litres of the recipe and left it age in an old cask whiskey barrel for around 10 months.

Shanna
Ah ok, I thought a whiskey barrel was bringing it to the next level. Tried a few of the whiskey and bourbon barrel aged stouts, amazing flavour
Title: Re: Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: winstonia on March 30, 2015, 01:38:26 PM
Quote from: Hop Bomb on March 29, 2015, 05:01:03 PM
Ignore any of the yeast & water stuff. I never really edit any of that in beersmith. It was 60 or 70g of fresh US05 slurry in each carboy iirc. Plus a lot of pure O2 aeration. Its been in a cold corny since Oct 5th. SRM - ignore that too. Its black as night with a mocha head.

75 or 60min boil? It says 60min for hop additions.
Title: Re: Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: CARA on March 30, 2015, 01:52:09 PM
Quote from: Hop Bomb on March 29, 2015, 05:01:03 PM
Ignore any of the yeast & water stuff. I never really edit any of that in beersmith. It was 60 or 70g of fresh US05 slurry in each carboy iirc. Plus a lot of pure O2 aeration. Its been in a cold corny since Oct 5th. SRM - ignore that too. Its black as night with a mocha head.

Was that the one I tried at your house? If so, it is fuckin AWESOME
Title: Re: Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: phynes1 on March 30, 2015, 04:04:27 PM
I just ordered ingredients for this:

FOUNDERS KBS CLONE

5 US Gallons

FERMENTABLES:
13.25 lbs pale malt
1.5 lbs flaked oats
.75 lb roasted barley
.75 lb Belgian choc. malt
.50 lb Belgian debittered black malt
.5 lb 120L crystal malt

HOPS
1.0 oz Nugget 13% aa (60 mins)
1.25 oz Willamette 5% aa (25 mins)
1.75 oz Willamette 5% aa (10 mins)
2.5 oz Belgian bittersweet chocolate (15 mins)
1.5 oz unsweetened cocoa nibs (15 mins)
2.0 oz ground Sumatran coffee (flameout)
2.0 oz cold-brewed Kona coffee (secondary)

YEAST
American or California Ale yeast

DIRECTIONS
Boil Time 90 mins
IBU. 73
SRM 60
Specific gravity 1.092
Assumed Efficiency 75%
Infusion Mash at 155F for 60 mins. Add Hops, chocolate, and coffee as specified. Ferment for 2 weeks at 65F. Soak .25 oz French Oak chips in one cup Kentucky Bourbon for 2 days. Soak ground kona coffee in 1 cup boiled, cooled water and leave overnight, covered in refrigerator. Strain out grounds and add cold coffee and bourbon, with wood chips to secondary. Rack fermented stout into this mixture and condition in secondary at 55-60F for 2-6 mos.
Title: Re: Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: Hop Bomb on April 01, 2015, 02:06:23 PM
Quote from: CARA on March 30, 2015, 01:52:09 PM
Quote from: Hop Bomb on March 29, 2015, 05:01:03 PM
Ignore any of the yeast & water stuff. I never really edit any of that in beersmith. It was 60 or 70g of fresh US05 slurry in each carboy iirc. Plus a lot of pure O2 aeration. Its been in a cold corny since Oct 5th. SRM - ignore that too. Its black as night with a mocha head.

Was that the one I tried at your house? If so, it is fuckin AWESOME

Yip thats the same beer. Cheers.


75 min boil on my kit. 90 min boil if you dont own a blichmann burner. (i get a very vigorous boil & evaporation)
Title: Re: Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: Simon_ on June 04, 2015, 11:19:23 AM
Quote from: Hop Bomb on April 01, 2015, 02:06:23 PM

I would've thought the hop present would be quite muted in this but you've alot of different types hops listed in your recipe and you're whirlpooling hops. Is there a noticible hop character to this recipe. Do you reckon the outcome would be much different with different hops kept to the same IBU?
Title: Re: Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: Will_D on June 04, 2015, 09:18:20 PM
Quote the Bible err I mean the BJCP style guide:

"Hop Aroma can be low to quite aggresive"

Flavour: "Medium-Low to High hop flavour (any variety)"

Not very specific are they!!
Title: Re: Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: molc on June 05, 2015, 08:45:05 AM
Traditionally this is a massively hopped strong beer as it needed to be preserved for the long trip to the tzars. The high fg balances the hops to really round it out, once it matures.
Title: Re: Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: TheSumOfAllBeers on June 05, 2015, 09:49:50 AM
Historically many of these were undrinkable before 12 months, due to high hop rates and the dark grain character.
Title: Re: Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: Hop Bomb on June 05, 2015, 11:25:17 AM
I didnt tap this beer until it was 7 months old.  It was rough as fuck after primary going to keg but it aged wonderfully.