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Title: BrewCon 2015 - Brewing Elements - Hops
Post by: Partridge9 on April 12, 2015, 11:03:11 PM
We have an expert hops speaker at brewcon 2015

Ben Adams  - Charles Faram Hops (http://www.charlesfaram.co.uk/about-us/)

We are going to get some questions together  to put to him.

Any questions on Hops ??
Title: Re: BrewCon 2015 - Brewing Elements - Hops
Post by: Partridge9 on April 12, 2015, 11:07:18 PM
My question would be

If the Lupulin Threshold shift is real and it impacting the beers being made and consumed
Will it over time squeeze out the orders / production of more subtle hops and in time kill hop variety.
Title: Re: BrewCon 2015 - Brewing Elements - Hops
Post by: molc on April 13, 2015, 08:38:59 AM
Nice question! I think a question I'd have for all the potential suppliers would be is there any interesting in dealing with the club at a group buy level. We're a small order off these guys, but it would be good to secure suppliers like can direct that we can use a few times a year to get necessary stock.
Title: Re: BrewCon 2015 - Brewing Elements - Hops
Post by: Bubbles on April 13, 2015, 09:07:14 AM
Although widely debated, I'd like to get a another professional opinion on:

- mid boil additions - what, if anything, do they contribute?
- late hopping vs dry hopping
Title: Re: BrewCon 2015 - Brewing Elements - Hops
Post by: DEMPSEY on April 13, 2015, 09:11:26 AM
Reports of hop shortages are mentioned. Is this real and will it get worse.
Title: Re: BrewCon 2015 - Brewing Elements - Hops
Post by: Qs on April 13, 2015, 11:22:00 AM
Whats the future like for European hop growers? Germany is now producing fruitier less noble style hops like Huell Melon, Mandarin Bavaria and Polaris and I have heard the Spanish are trying to get into hop farming now too. Can we start producing hops on the continent to rival the US?
Title: Re: BrewCon 2015 - Brewing Elements - Hops
Post by: irish_goat on April 13, 2015, 11:44:40 AM
+1

Also wondering if any Irish farmers are expected to be selling hops commercially anytime soon?
Title: Re: BrewCon 2015 - Brewing Elements - Hops
Post by: brian_c on April 13, 2015, 11:59:02 AM
Is the current popularity of IPAs and hoppy beers over all others a bubble? Could tastes change to more malt forward beers.
Title: Re: BrewCon 2015 - Brewing Elements - Hops
Post by: DEMPSEY on April 13, 2015, 12:38:33 PM
Fads will come and go but once you pour the milk into the coffee there's no going back so I would say their will always be a big market for big hoppy beers.
Title: Re: BrewCon 2015 - Brewing Elements - Hops
Post by: Paul B on April 13, 2015, 02:18:04 PM
1. How much bitterness is added from a hop stand, and what's the optimal hop stand temp for max flavor/aroma?
2. Do you think there's a threshold for dry hopping, i.e. are results from a 100g dry much different from a 200g.
Title: Re: BrewCon 2015 - Brewing Elements - Hops
Post by: SlugTrap on April 13, 2015, 04:29:16 PM
What's the next trend in hop flavor profiles?

Sixpoint and Flying Dog are already using an experimental variety called HBC 431, which is described as melon and stone fruit but also earthy, woody and even tobacco.

Is this the start of a move away from the tropical fruit and citrus that have dominated over the past few years?
Title: Re: BrewCon 2015 - Brewing Elements - Hops
Post by: dcalnan on April 13, 2015, 05:16:57 PM
Why is it that the UK is a big producer of hops and Ireland historically has never produced their own hops always importing them. With the similar climates/soil could Ireland ever become a viable producer of hops on a large scale, and would it be a good alternative for farmers to look into growing.
Title: Re: BrewCon 2015 - Brewing Elements - Hops
Post by: Will_D on April 13, 2015, 08:37:27 PM
AFAIK: Parts of Ireland has an ideal climate for hops. They were grown commercialy in large numbers for one dominant customer based in Dublin. He eventually screwed the price down to where the farmers decided (Fekit) to plough in the crop rather than sell to the dominant customer.

However: We don't have the same cliamte to grow the hot country citrus stuff. We ai'nt California or sunny NZ
Title: Re: BrewCon 2015 - Brewing Elements - Hops
Post by: Dr Jacoby on April 13, 2015, 09:48:12 PM
Is there any reason to favour storing well sealed hops in a fridge over a freezer?
Title: Re: BrewCon 2015 - Brewing Elements - Hops
Post by: Partridge9 on April 13, 2015, 10:00:58 PM
If you are vacuum packing your hops, should you purge with Co2 first ? or is that complete horseshite..

I tried this once - mistakenly had the PSI at 20 and ended up with a face full of pellets

ok scratch that question

;D
Title: Re: BrewCon 2015 - Brewing Elements - Hops
Post by: Dr Jacoby on April 14, 2015, 08:27:14 AM
The oul fridge v freezer debate rumbles on  ;D

I started using my fridge more recently mainly because I'm worried that since freezers create a dryer environment and my air tight hop storage bags aren't great it's probably the safer option. But it would be nice to know if it really makes any difference.
Title: Re: BrewCon 2015 - Brewing Elements - Hops
Post by: Bubbles on May 08, 2015, 09:08:45 AM
Would like to hear more about the rise of AA levels in some hop varieties, specifically EKG. When I first started homebrewing, EKG used to be around the 5-6% AA - now it's more common to see them around 7%. is it just the Irish suppliers and the products they're bringing in?
Title: Re: BrewCon 2015 - Brewing Elements - Hops
Post by: pob on May 11, 2015, 05:31:26 PM
Doing my bit to stop the Fuggles die out.

(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss256/peterobrien20/Beer/599529AE-D97C-4C5C-925E-E50BF2D90F9A.jpg) (http://s581.photobucket.com/user/peterobrien20/media/Beer/599529AE-D97C-4C5C-925E-E50BF2D90F9A.jpg.html)

It will be planted out soon.
Title: Re: BrewCon 2015 - Brewing Elements - Hops
Post by: Brew_Diva on May 11, 2015, 09:39:43 PM
cute!  ^-^ hope it grows!
Title: Re: BrewCon 2015 - Brewing Elements - Hops
Post by: johnrm on May 12, 2015, 12:55:06 AM
I have a plant at 2m already. Its either Fuggles or Cascade. Hopefully Fuggles.
Title: Re: BrewCon 2015 - Brewing Elements - Hops
Post by: delzep on May 12, 2015, 02:06:40 AM
The main bine on my fuggles plant is at least 2m too and another 7 or 8 bines  are around half that
Title: Re: BrewCon 2015 - Brewing Elements - Hops
Post by: DEMPSEY on May 12, 2015, 09:36:13 AM
Is it the shape of the leaf that will tell you if it is a fuggle hop  :-\