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Title: Hop plants
Post by: Pat_buttercups on April 15, 2015, 10:43:40 PM
Hey guys,
seems to be alot of interest in more hop plants so if we want to get a list going so i know how many cutting i need to prep it will be helpful.
So basically I can take a good load of cascade cuttings and have them ready within about 2 weeks for the most part, I also have target and bramleyX that I can give away/trade later in the year and if anybody willing to give me any variety's i dont have would be highly appreciated.

so cascade for now how many do i need to take?
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Simon_ on April 15, 2015, 10:57:41 PM
1. Simon
At some point I'll have interesting hop varieties to pay you back
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: psham on April 15, 2015, 11:21:58 PM
1. Psham
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: lewi on April 15, 2015, 11:25:15 PM
lewi
I'm afraid ive nothing to 0ffer in return
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Drum on April 16, 2015, 12:42:39 AM
Hi Pat, id love to get some cuttings of any variety please. I dont have any hops to trade but im pretty good with plant propagation so I would be happy to pass on cuttings or rhizomes to others in the future.

I think it's time for a list, you might get a lot of requests for cuttings. 

1. Psham
2. Simon
3. lewi
4. Drum
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: coolfinie on April 16, 2015, 10:50:13 AM
Yes please
1. Psham
2. Simon
3. lewi
4. Drum
5. Coolfinie

I haven't any hops to offer since this is a beginning, but am willing to buy a different variety and propagate that for a return favour at a later date.
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: molc on April 16, 2015, 01:14:53 PM

1. Psham
2. Simon
3. lewi
4. Drum
5. Coolfinie
6. Molc

I'd love a cutting to get the hop supply started at home.

Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Matt Harrison on April 16, 2015, 01:53:22 PM
1. Psham
2. Simon
3. lewi
4. Drum
5. Coolfinie
6. Molc
7. Matt

That would be awesome mate, thanks. I have the perfect spot for them, but it's going to take a bit of clearing. So if I could just get enough to grow in a (big) pot for now, that would be perfect.
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Jonnycheech on April 16, 2015, 01:55:07 PM
1. Psham
2. Simon
3. lewi
4. Drum
5. Coolfinie
6. Molc
7. Matt
8. Johnnycheech

I'd love to take a cascade rhizome if possible. Thanks Pat
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: ronniedeb on April 16, 2015, 04:01:31 PM
1. Psham
2. Simon
3. lewi
4. Drum
5. Coolfinie
6. Molc
7. Matt
8. Johnnycheech
9. ronniedeb

I am new here, but would love a cascade cutting. I've ordered Cascade plants from Willingham Nurseries, but they say they will be short this year, so I wont know if they can fulfill my order until the end of the month. If I can get some other variety from elsewhere, I will provide a swap, for sure.
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Cahalbrua on April 16, 2015, 06:23:19 PM
1. Psham
2. Simon
3. lewi
4. Drum
5. Coolfinie
6. Molc
7. Matt
8. Johnnycheech
9. ronniedeb
10. Cahalbrua

Ive got centennial pellets i can swap.
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Pat_buttercups on April 17, 2015, 12:01:43 AM
hey guys,
thats all fine im just looking to get approx number of plants i need, I dont need anything back if you have a hop plant i can get a cutting of thats great if not im just happy to help make ireland a "hopyer" place lol yay for bad bad puns
So if you fancy giving it a go dont be shy im not limiting it to north countys or anything but if we get alot more i might need time to get them together
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Oh Crap on April 17, 2015, 12:03:13 AM
1. Psham
2. Simon
3. lewi
4. Drum
5. Coolfinie
6. Molc
7. Matt
8. Johnnycheech
9. ronniedeb
10. Cahalbrua
11. Oh crap... Will return favour
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: jawalemon on April 17, 2015, 01:56:07 PM

1. Psham
2. Simon
3. lewi
4. Drum
5. Coolfinie
6. Molc
7. Matt
8. Johnnycheech
9. ronniedeb
10. Cahalbrua
11. Oh crap... Will return favour
12. JawaLemon
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: helmet on April 17, 2015, 08:36:49 PM
1. Psham
2. Simon
3. lewi
4. Drum
5. Coolfinie
6. Molc
7. Matt
8. Johnnycheech
9. ronniedeb
10. Cahalbrua
11. Oh crap... Will return favour
12. JawaLemon
13. Helmet.....I'd love to get in on the cascade!
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Pat_buttercups on April 17, 2015, 08:40:38 PM
gonna need to keep up the preparing for a while XD, i have 2 ready to go and another 10 taken today so by next week i should know how many took and ill take another 10 or so
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Will_D on April 17, 2015, 09:17:28 PM
Pat,
I usually take the "Irish Man's" approach to (not) cutting!

What is your technique as I have a load of 1st & 2nd shoots that need to be cut out*

* Note to new growers:
When the bines start shooting its advised to remove the first 2 or 3 shoots as they have a greater "internodal distance" ** to what follows!

** Internodal:
The distance between the the leaf/flower nodes. Shorter IN distance = more cones  :)
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Pat_buttercups on April 18, 2015, 12:50:56 PM
hey will,

I tend to take off the shoots from the bottom where I can and grab a chunk or root with them Irishman style :P, that way they form there own rhyzome by the end of the season.
If i especially care that it will take or need more than shoots are coming up ill take a bit of the vine chop it off at both ends and put it in some damp compost with both ends (or sometimes just take a small vine and pop it in but it has a higher failure rate). if im doing it that way or its one i really want to make sure takes ill use rooting hormone and keep it in a "plastic bottle propagator" such as the one I gave you the bramleyX in.
one of the reasons I go to try and give them around so much is with the irishman style i tend to get loads with the cascade in particular and its always a shame to throw them away :P
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Seb on April 22, 2015, 09:47:07 AM
1. Psham
2. Simon
3. lewi
4. Drum
5. Coolfinie
6. Molc
7. Matt
8. Johnnycheech
9. ronniedeb
10. Cahalbrua
11. Oh crap... Will return favour
12. JawaLemon
13. Helmet.....I'd love to get in on the cascade!
14. Seb
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Pat_buttercups on April 23, 2015, 11:45:37 AM
1. Psham
2. Simon
3. lewi
4. Drum
5. Coolfinie
6. Molc
7. Matt
8. Johnnycheech
9. ronniedeb
10. Cahalbrua
11. Oh crap... Will return favour
12. JawaLemon
13. Helmet.....I'd love to get in on the cascade!
14. Seb

one down :)
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Pat_buttercups on May 27, 2015, 12:51:14 AM
1. Psham
2. Simon
3. lewi
4. Drum
5. Coolfinie
6. Molc
7. Matt
8. Johnnycheech
9. ronniedeb
10. Cahalbrua
11. Oh crap... Will return favour
12. JawaLemon
13. Helmet.....I'd love to get in on the cascade!
14. Seb

Late april frost killed alot of the hop cuttings, have a few left more are being taken
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Jonnycheech on May 27, 2015, 08:07:46 AM
Hi Pat,

Sorry I only realised that this was a North County Brewers Thread.

Is it ok if I get a cascade rhizome from you at some point? I can travel out to you.

Cheers
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Pat_buttercups on May 27, 2015, 12:00:58 PM
ah yea johnny sure no problem sure not everyone on the list is north county, just need to sort out collection from people out of town. im fact most NC brewers already have hop plants from me giving them out last year
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Jonnycheech on May 28, 2015, 07:47:04 AM
Cool. Looking forward to harvesting some hops!!
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Drum on June 04, 2015, 11:59:17 PM
My little cascade cutting made the last leg of it's journey last night, From Pat's garden via my cousin in tallaght and my parents house in kerry and finally to my place in nearly west cork  :) 
Gonna transplant it to the biggest pot i can find tomorrow and start training shoots to layer out into individual plants ready for next year.

Huge thanks to Pat for taking the time and effort to take cuttings and offer them around to random homebrewers. Genuinely spreading the hoppyness   :)
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Guilley1985 on June 16, 2015, 07:59:33 AM
Probably a little late on this thread, but would be very interested in target and/or BramleyX
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Simon_ on June 16, 2015, 10:27:36 AM
My little plant stuttered a bit since I planted it and none of the existing shoots were growing anymore but in the last day or 2 new shoots are coming out and it's thriving. I'm guessing it'll need to put down roots this year and I'll be harvesting Cascade in about 15 months. Nice one Pat.
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: fishjam45 (Colin) on June 16, 2015, 11:25:54 AM
Would love some Cascade but I'm probably too late  :(
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Pat_buttercups on June 20, 2015, 11:48:07 AM
glad some are getting along. just add your name to the list and ill make sure to take extra cuttings comming up m8 :)
most of the cuttings will be taken over the next couple of weeks ive lost alot this year with the cold nights, its actually only been in the last week they have started growing properly again cold nights and late frosts killed a large portion of the cuttings, as well as some of my weaker plants from last year. I have 4 or 5 plants ready to go at the moment tho. little care might get a harvest off them this year (if only small). the rest will need to be grown up a bit more and taken greater care of early next year( kept away from the frost etc.)
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Guilley1985 on June 23, 2015, 07:31:07 AM
1. Psham
2. Simon
3. lewi
4. Drum
5. Coolfinie
6. Molc
7. Matt
8. Johnnycheech
9. ronniedeb
10. Cahalbrua
11. Oh crap... Will return favour
12. JawaLemon
13. Helmet.....I'd love to get in on the cascade!
14. Seb
15. Guilley1985

I can collect in swords
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Guilley1985 on June 23, 2015, 07:32:14 AM
Should add I'm interested in both, especially Bradley x
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Pat_buttercups on June 23, 2015, 10:27:53 AM
1. Psham
2. Simon
3. lewi
4. Drum
5. Coolfinie
6. Molc
7. Matt
8. Johnnycheech
9. ronniedeb
10. Cahalbrua
11. Oh crap... Will return favour
12. JawaLemon
13. Helmet.....I'd love to get in on the cascade!
14. Seb
15. Guilley1985 (target + bramley)

no worries got you, its mostly so i have an idea of how many i need
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Guilley1985 on June 23, 2015, 12:21:48 PM
That's great! Any idea when they might be available? Quite happy to pay
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Pat_buttercups on June 23, 2015, 11:16:02 PM
ill be taking as many cuttings and rooting them as quickly as i can over the next couple weeks. so as soon as they develop roots really.... within a month id imagine
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Pat_buttercups on July 03, 2015, 12:08:41 PM
hey i have 5 cascades ready to be rehomed if anybodys around this weekend?
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: molc on July 03, 2015, 12:29:39 PM
Yup yup. Pm me an address and I'll try to spin around sunday morning if that's ok.
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: helmet on July 03, 2015, 04:05:07 PM
My cascade is winging its way to a greenhouse in Dundalk. Many thanks Pat, pure gent!
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: JayMc on July 03, 2015, 04:41:31 PM
1. Psham
2. Simon
3. lewi
4. Drum
5. Coolfinie
6. Molc
7. Matt
8. Johnnycheech
9. ronniedeb
10. Cahalbrua
11. Oh crap... Will return favour
12. JawaLemon
13. Helmet.....I'd love to get in on the cascade!
14. Seb
15. Guilley1985 (target + bramley)
16. JayMc

Would love to start growing some Cascade. I can collect anytime as I'm only in Portmarnock
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Pat_buttercups on July 04, 2015, 04:17:23 PM
1. Psham
2. Simon
3. lewi
4. Drum
5. Coolfinie
6. Molc
7. Matt
8. Johnnycheech
9. ronniedeb
10. Cahalbrua
11. Oh crap... Will return favour
12. JawaLemon
13. Helmet.....I'd love to get in on the cascade!
14. Seb
15. Guilley1985 (target + bramley)
16. JayMc

good stuff slowly working through the list :P will have too make sure i take enough
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Pat_buttercups on August 11, 2015, 09:08:46 AM
1. Psham
2. Simon
3. lewi
4. Drum

5. Coolfinie
6. Molc
7. Matt
8. Johnnycheech
9. ronniedeb
10. Cahalbrua
11. Oh crap... Will return favour
12. JawaLemon
13. Helmet.....I'd love to get in on the cascade!
14. Seb
15. Guilley1985 (target + bramley)
16. JayMc

Hey guys, I have a few more to go but unfortunately i didnt quite expect so many looking for it this year and the majority of the cutings died with the late frosts and continous cold ( honestly its a really rubbish summer) so a few of you may need to wait till next spring to get sorted out
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Simon_ on August 11, 2015, 10:02:03 AM
I've got 4 varieties thriving in my garden now I can share around when I figure out how -
Cascade, Challenger, Hallertau Aroma & Fuggles.
The Fuggles & Hallertau grew like demons from cuttings I got from Upsidedown Andrew.

Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Leann ull on August 11, 2015, 10:46:15 AM
Is that because the latter 2 are more suited to NWE climate?
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Simon_ on August 11, 2015, 11:02:01 AM
Quote from: Ciderhead on August 11, 2015, 10:46:15 AM
Is that because the latter 2 are more suited to NWE climate?

The American ones are doing fine as well (just meaning the plant growing rather than any crop yet) . Just the other 2 got a head start.

Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Jonnycheech on August 12, 2015, 07:10:30 AM
I'd definitely take a few Rhizomes off you Simon, whenever you figure it out  :P
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Pat_buttercups on August 12, 2015, 09:08:41 AM
ah the climate dose make a bit of a difference but honestly its mostly just young plants being vulnerable. 1st year plants ( and to a lesser extent 2nd year) can be killed off easily by stuff like late frost after there 2nd year your going to have a hard time killing them off tho. Wind is a big problem for them as well , but avoid those things and they become a massively invasive plant that just wont die lol
Ill keep making cuttings etc. anyway going to redo my setup next year so I get better wind protection. Just if anybody is pushed to get them this year opposed to next spring let me know so i can be sure to keep the plant for you. or if people dont really care what hop they get or if its specifcally cascade cause i have a few bramly X aswell
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Guilley1985 on August 19, 2015, 02:20:56 PM
Would really love bramleyx this year if possible but can't complain of not
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Jonnycheech on October 08, 2015, 05:18:41 PM
Hi Pat, how's tricks?

Were you happy with your harvest this year?

Just a quick question regarding the hop plant you gave me in July. There was another plant growing in the pot, I think it may be a tomato plant? I didn't kill it as I was interested to see how it turned out but it seems to have suffocated the poor cascade rhizome. Is it a tomato plant?

Maybe they will cross pollinate and produce some Hopmato fruits????
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Kevin O'Roundwood on October 08, 2015, 05:59:11 PM
Easy money!
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Jonnycheech on October 08, 2015, 06:16:43 PM
A nice Hopmato and a pint of DIPA should quench any hophead's lupulin thirst!
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: ronniedeb on October 09, 2015, 09:53:28 AM
Looks like solanum (nightshade) family. Black Nightshade maybe. If it is, it's poisonous. Don't go putting any in your beer.   ???
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Pat_buttercups on October 15, 2015, 12:09:25 AM
ronnies right
Its just a bad weed that seems to pop up everywhere get rid of it
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Jonnycheech on October 15, 2015, 07:07:18 AM
Quote from: Pat_buttercups on October 15, 2015, 12:09:25 AM
ronnies right
Its just a bad weed that seems to pop up everywhere get rid of it

Ok, it'll be getting the chop tonight so.

Hopefully it's roots aren't so entangled with the hop plant that I'll have to pull both.

This is poisonous so I presume gloves are necessary?
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Pat_buttercups on October 15, 2015, 02:49:55 PM
if you want, either way just dont eat it and youll be fine :P
Title: Re: Hop plants
Post by: Simon_ on October 17, 2015, 05:44:17 PM
Got 200g off my cascade plant today. Pretty chuffed with that Pat. Next year I'll let it grow much bigger. Thanks again