Title: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: imark on May 06, 2015, 10:20:21 PM
Post by: imark on May 06, 2015, 10:20:21 PM
Better late than never! Fill date is set for May 16th. Here is the recipe for 25L batches and the options including mashing:
I need 25L from each contributor. The OG should be 1.050. If it isn't in the barrel by May 16th it wont be going in.
You have 2 decisions to make:
1. Use raw wheat with a cereal mash or used pre-gelatinized wheat (faked or torrified) and skip the cereal mash
2. Make the wort just in time for fill or make in advance and primary ferment with a neutral ale yeast
Ingredients:
Per 25L
4kg of pilsner malt
2kg of unmalted wheat or torrified/flaked wheat
20g 4% AA Saaz (or equivalent to 10 IBU)
Mash:
Option 1 - Incl Cereal Mash - This is required for raw wheat as the first 2 steps are the ceral mash
1. Dough in 2kg of unmalted wheat and 400g of pilsner with 10L @60C
2. Increase temperature to 100C and hold there for 30min
3. Add 3.6kg of pilsner and 3L water. Adjust mash to 70C and hold for 2hrs, stirring regularly, then rest for 30min
4. Sparge with 20L @95C
Option 2 - Infusion step mash - This is best suited if you use flaked/torrified wheat or your kit doesn't suit doing the cereal mash
1. Dough in at 45c for 15min
2. Rest at 50c for 15 min
3. Rest at 65c for 45min
4. Rest at 70c for 30 min
5. Mash out 76c and sparge with 88c water
Boil:
Boil for 2hrs
Add 10IBU low AA hops @60min
I need 25L from each contributor. The OG should be 1.050. If it isn't in the barrel by May 16th it wont be going in.
You have 2 decisions to make:
1. Use raw wheat with a cereal mash or used pre-gelatinized wheat (faked or torrified) and skip the cereal mash
2. Make the wort just in time for fill or make in advance and primary ferment with a neutral ale yeast
Ingredients:
Per 25L
4kg of pilsner malt
2kg of unmalted wheat or torrified/flaked wheat
20g 4% AA Saaz (or equivalent to 10 IBU)
Mash:
Option 1 - Incl Cereal Mash - This is required for raw wheat as the first 2 steps are the ceral mash
1. Dough in 2kg of unmalted wheat and 400g of pilsner with 10L @60C
2. Increase temperature to 100C and hold there for 30min
3. Add 3.6kg of pilsner and 3L water. Adjust mash to 70C and hold for 2hrs, stirring regularly, then rest for 30min
4. Sparge with 20L @95C
Option 2 - Infusion step mash - This is best suited if you use flaked/torrified wheat or your kit doesn't suit doing the cereal mash
1. Dough in at 45c for 15min
2. Rest at 50c for 15 min
3. Rest at 65c for 45min
4. Rest at 70c for 30 min
5. Mash out 76c and sparge with 88c water
Boil:
Boil for 2hrs
Add 10IBU low AA hops @60min
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: DEMPSEY on May 13, 2015, 03:28:21 PM
Post by: DEMPSEY on May 13, 2015, 03:28:21 PM
My brew is on the boil as I speak :)
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: imark on May 13, 2015, 03:52:09 PM
Post by: imark on May 13, 2015, 03:52:09 PM
And we're off 
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: nigel_c on May 13, 2015, 04:09:37 PM
Post by: nigel_c on May 13, 2015, 04:09:37 PM
Quote from: DEMPSEY on May 13, 2015, 03:28:21 PM
My brew is on the boil as I speak :)
So that's where my wheat went ;)
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: DEMPSEY on May 13, 2015, 05:01:47 PM
Post by: DEMPSEY on May 13, 2015, 05:01:47 PM
Thanks Nigel :). As I write the buzzer is going off to say de boil it has fynieshed,so as they say in Russia Moscow ;D
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: imark on May 13, 2015, 06:00:08 PM
Post by: imark on May 13, 2015, 06:00:08 PM
Will you post your OG and Volume up when you've get it into fermenter? For the record like!
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: DEMPSEY on May 13, 2015, 08:34:45 PM
Post by: DEMPSEY on May 13, 2015, 08:34:45 PM
25.5L at 1050sg bang on. A lot of protein so I transferred it to my conical and let it settle,then after an hour drew off the debris then pitched and set temp for 20C. :) I would say there is still some protein left though :(
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: imark on May 13, 2015, 09:10:04 PM
Post by: imark on May 13, 2015, 09:10:04 PM
Quote from: DEMPSEY on May 13, 2015, 08:34:45 PM
25.5L at 1050sg bang on. A lot of protein so I transferred it to my conical and let it settle,then after an hour drew off the debris then pitched and set temp for 20C. :) I would say there is still some protein left though :(
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: imark on May 15, 2015, 04:23:41 PM
Post by: imark on May 15, 2015, 04:23:41 PM
Just to clarify one very important point in recipe for mash option 1, step 3 - The water addition is cold water as you are trying to drop the temperature to 70C.
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: lordstilton on May 15, 2015, 07:23:04 PM
Post by: lordstilton on May 15, 2015, 07:23:04 PM
Brewday from hell.. Started at 11.30 this morning and still sparging.. About 3L left to collect before starting a two hour boil...all while minding two kids
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: DamienE on May 15, 2015, 08:27:30 PM
Post by: DamienE on May 15, 2015, 08:27:30 PM
40mins into 2hr mash
Looks like it'll be a late one
Looks like it'll be a late one
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: DEMPSEY on May 15, 2015, 08:38:07 PM
Post by: DEMPSEY on May 15, 2015, 08:38:07 PM
I put my one on to ferment and Mark came to collect it today,it was in full swing with yeast bubbling everywhere :)
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: DamienE on May 15, 2015, 08:39:30 PM
Post by: DamienE on May 15, 2015, 08:39:30 PM
Yeast.
They're great - aren't they!
They're great - aren't they!
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: DEMPSEY on May 15, 2015, 08:40:40 PM
Post by: DEMPSEY on May 15, 2015, 08:40:40 PM
amazing critters ;D
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: GarLo on May 15, 2015, 09:34:37 PM
Post by: GarLo on May 15, 2015, 09:34:37 PM
Wow, that was a tough one,started at 12 today, only finished an hour ago. 28L @1050 in a bucket ready for the barrel tomorrow ;D Time to sit down and reflect with beer!!
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: eanna on May 15, 2015, 09:45:29 PM
Post by: eanna on May 15, 2015, 09:45:29 PM
Just doing the gelatinisation tonight, alarm set for 8am tomorrow to finish the job.
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: lordstilton on May 15, 2015, 09:55:09 PM
Post by: lordstilton on May 15, 2015, 09:55:09 PM
40 min left on boil then cooler.. I'll be well after 11.. Nearly 12 hours.. Sparge from hell
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: GarLo on May 15, 2015, 10:24:09 PM
Post by: GarLo on May 15, 2015, 10:24:09 PM
"Sparge from hell"
.. oat husks ? Works great when using wheat.
.. oat husks ? Works great when using wheat.
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: lordstilton on May 15, 2015, 10:26:58 PM
Post by: lordstilton on May 15, 2015, 10:26:58 PM
Didn't use them.. First time I've ever got a stuck sparge.. We used the same recipe last year and it didn't stick...next time I will definitely be using them
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: eanna on May 15, 2015, 10:33:39 PM
Post by: eanna on May 15, 2015, 10:33:39 PM
Quote from: lordstilton on May 15, 2015, 10:26:58 PM
Didn't use them.. First time I've ever got a stuck sparge.. We used the same recipe last year and it didn't stick...next time I will definitely be using them
Do you think something in particular you did this time caused it to stick?
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: lordstilton on May 15, 2015, 10:53:09 PM
Post by: lordstilton on May 15, 2015, 10:53:09 PM
Overshot my mash temps for a few mins
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: DamienE on May 16, 2015, 01:26:34 AM
Post by: DamienE on May 16, 2015, 01:26:34 AM
At last 25 l @ 1.053
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: DEMPSEY on May 16, 2015, 01:28:51 AM
Post by: DEMPSEY on May 16, 2015, 01:28:51 AM
wow that's dedication for ye :)
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: imark on May 16, 2015, 09:01:03 AM
Post by: imark on May 16, 2015, 09:01:03 AM
Barrel should be in place to accept filling from around lunchtime. You can drop off a container earlier if you like.
Beautiful day to fill a barrel!
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/16/f114722974e8c3a249b019390f0f60c7.jpg)
Beautiful day to fill a barrel!
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/16/f114722974e8c3a249b019390f0f60c7.jpg)
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: imark on May 16, 2015, 03:07:05 PM
Post by: imark on May 16, 2015, 03:07:05 PM
Cereal mash
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/16/9f53121e9b3373cbbe034ebc2e707108.jpg)
No stuck mash here
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/16/79a1a54e9fe4e4d8787f91a52288ddd3.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/16/9f53121e9b3373cbbe034ebc2e707108.jpg)
No stuck mash here
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/16/79a1a54e9fe4e4d8787f91a52288ddd3.jpg)
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: imark on May 17, 2015, 06:05:10 PM
Post by: imark on May 17, 2015, 06:05:10 PM
Great day's brewing and filling the barrel yesterday. Thanks for getting the wort to me on time. It all ran very smoothly.
The OG once the barrel is topped up will be 1.050 on the button.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/17/fb5fe94195be180a6b2f4522b820db63.jpg)
Fermentation is well underway
The OG once the barrel is topped up will be 1.050 on the button.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/17/fb5fe94195be180a6b2f4522b820db63.jpg)
Fermentation is well underway
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: eanna on May 17, 2015, 06:21:50 PM
Post by: eanna on May 17, 2015, 06:21:50 PM
I'm not seeing any of your images Mark on my phone or laptop.
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: mcgrath on May 17, 2015, 06:39:55 PM
Post by: mcgrath on May 17, 2015, 06:39:55 PM
I can see them no prob on laptop.
Nice new home for the barrel..
Nice new home for the barrel..
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: johnrm on May 17, 2015, 06:40:38 PM
Post by: johnrm on May 17, 2015, 06:40:38 PM
Does the full fermentation take place in the barrel?
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: imark on May 17, 2015, 07:36:11 PM
Post by: imark on May 17, 2015, 07:36:11 PM
Quote from: johnrm on May 17, 2015, 06:40:38 PMYes. Full fermentation is in the barrel.
Does the full fermentation take place in the barrel?
There is head space left for krausen but once it starts to taper off it will get topped up to to the brim to minimise oxygen pickup.
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: johnrm on May 17, 2015, 07:57:34 PM
Post by: johnrm on May 17, 2015, 07:57:34 PM
I see.
(takes mental note...) :)
(takes mental note...) :)
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: imark on July 23, 2015, 08:18:22 PM
Post by: imark on July 23, 2015, 08:18:22 PM
Took a peek tonight. Looks and smells great.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/23/485ae5e20e3342374a8d68bcc92515b1.jpg)
Gravity will continue to drop (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/23/84b36e58f8a0d123a31db9f379216f62.jpg)
Did i mention that the smell is fantastic?(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/23/dd29c055f85fae7baa08f84900dc4833.jpg)
It's already very tart. It's going to be a fantastic sour in 12 months.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/23/e748b7805698e4ebb6dc0ae757d3a6c8.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/23/485ae5e20e3342374a8d68bcc92515b1.jpg)
Gravity will continue to drop (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/23/84b36e58f8a0d123a31db9f379216f62.jpg)
Did i mention that the smell is fantastic?(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/23/dd29c055f85fae7baa08f84900dc4833.jpg)
It's already very tart. It's going to be a fantastic sour in 12 months.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/23/e748b7805698e4ebb6dc0ae757d3a6c8.jpg)
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: imark on May 06, 2016, 10:43:06 AM
Post by: imark on May 06, 2016, 10:43:06 AM
Plans are afoot to empty and refill the barrel over the coming weeks. All contributors have been notified at this stage I think but posting here in case I missed anyone.
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: Leann ull on May 06, 2016, 10:52:13 AM
Post by: Leann ull on May 06, 2016, 10:52:13 AM
Yeah wheres my share :D
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: imark on May 06, 2016, 11:12:51 AM
Post by: imark on May 06, 2016, 11:12:51 AM
Quote from: CH on May 06, 2016, 10:52:13 AMWatch out for a new thread on Sunday about the refill
Yeah wheres my share :D
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: imark on May 09, 2016, 02:40:36 PM
Post by: imark on May 09, 2016, 02:40:36 PM
Heads up to anybody with a share of beer in this barrel...it will be emptied on the morning of 4th June. Please have suitable container with me in advance. Thanks!
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel for 2015
Post by: imark on May 24, 2016, 07:45:31 PM
Post by: imark on May 24, 2016, 07:45:31 PM
Bumping this as a reminder.
I'd be grateful if you can get these to me before Friday 3rd June please so that I can have everything ready for refill and collection on Saturday.
I'd be grateful if you can get these to me before Friday 3rd June please so that I can have everything ready for refill and collection on Saturday.