Ne ipa biotransformation

[Joe Cal]

Hi all, I think there's a competition going on so not looking for any secrets.
With a neipa I read you add hops during high krausen.
But then in other styles I read letting the beer sit on dry hops over 5 days gives grassy flavours
Does the biotransformation stop these off flavours?
Or, should you transfer to a secondary 3 - 5 days after adding hops.
Or, do you bottle/keg earlier because you want a hazy profile?

I'm sure there's an obvious answer I'm missing but this is a style I really like the sound of

Side question - any easily available good commercial examples of this style in ireland?

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[fishjam45 (Colin)]

There's some commercial samples available now, check out the NEIPA thread in the competition section.
There's a lot of info out there about biotransformation, you've raised a good question about hops and their contact times with the wort. 

[nigel_c]

One thing that puts me off putting hops in that early is that half of the, will end up getting stuck to the sides of the fermenter as the krausen drops. Still have to brew one though.

[krockett]

Whiplash have one which is supposed to be an NEIPA: http://www.whiplashbeer.com/beers/#/since-ive-been-loving-you/

Tasted (and looked) just like a DIPA to be tbh - and I thought surrender to the void is better.

[Joe Cal]

I'm gonna dry hop at hogh krausen and transfer to secondary on day 4 or 5. Let it finish as normal, then bottle. S-04 or Nottingham

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[molc]

Upto recently my dry hop is 4 day at @22C, then crash over 3days and keg, for a total of 7 days contact time. Haven't gotten any grassy flavours, even with ~200G   of dry hop

[SlugTrap]

Whiplash have one which is supposed to be an NEIPA: http://www.whiplashbeer.com/beers/#/since-ive-been-loving-you/

Tasted (and looked) just like a DIPA to be tbh - and I thought surrender to the void is better.

Agreed; STTV was more on-style, too, for NEIPA.

Kinnegar has one coming out at AllTech + in bottles after; Big Bunny.

[Joe Cal]

brewed an ipa on the 17th. dry hopped during active fermentation with equinox and amarillo (double the amarillo) on the 19th. bottled last night, so 10 days in contact. taste and smell were unreal, best i've done but not much competition there. Will see how it tastes after 3 weeeks in bottles

[Qs]

I've got my first NEIPA in the FV at the moment. Dry hopped on day 3 which I thought was probably high krausen. Fermentation smelled lovely after that. Think I'll keg it on day 10 too, which would be next Monday.

Are people doing any kind of cold crash before packaging or just kegging at room temp? I may cold crash for a day or 2 just to drop out anything big thats going to end up on the bottom of my keg anyway.

[Joe Cal]

Yeah, that would have been a good idea

I ended up with a few clumps that floated in but it was a minimum. I can control my temperature up (aquarium heater and builders bucket) but I can't control it down. Would a 12 - 15 degrees be cold enough?

[BrewDorg]

Yep cold crashed mine for 2 days prior to packaging. Definitely needed to with the colossal dry hop.