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How much is home brewing?

Started by nigel_c, August 29, 2018, 08:08:43 PM

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nigel_c

I did a tot of what I've brewed this year and it got me thinking what is the point where it starts to become friended upon?
I've done about 30 brews this year and by my sums have produced about 550L so far. Excluding cider and sours that were started last year and 2 batches i dumped that I wasn't happy with.
Hope I don't get a knock on the door tomorrow from Mr revenge after this post.


So how much are people brewing and what is considered a reasonable level for home production?

Johnn

Maybe the question should be how much of it are you drinking :) I have brewed 5 wine kits and 2 beer kits this year (about 140L) with a few more brews planned before the year is out.

Ceedee

Is there a limit to the amount you can brew at home? I didn't think there was in Ireland (or the U.K.)

Dracusse

there is a limit in germany but not in ireland .... as long as you not selling it no fear to wait revenue knocks you door :)

CH

No limit, but no selling for commercial gain and nothing above 20% if memory serves.

TheSumOfAllBeers

Usually the clause is domestic consumption.

So if you are widely sharing this outside of your home then that's against the law too.

The key thing here is that enforcement is done by excise officials not health and safety  or normal police.

It's not worth their time to break into someone's home to enforce 1-2 hundred quid worth of duty.

It's rarely worth it for smaller breweries.

The total alcohol made by homebrewers is paltry and single fermentation is not viable as a bootleg option.

You might make 550L in a year and consider that big. A 800 capacity nightclub will drink that dry in an hour? Two maybe.

CH


CH

August 30, 2018, 01:34:54 PM #7 Last Edit: August 30, 2018, 04:13:47 PM by CH
Revenue went after a Polish hb chap in Cork 5 or 6 years ago who was selling to offies and they also take a great interest on those premises that produce wine or beer and ferment on the premises.
The focus for revenue is "commercial gain" if somebody has sold an alcoholic product and made an income without paying duty then that's a problem.

Subsection 77 (f) of the 2003 Act provides for relief from Alcohol Products Tax in certain circumstances in respect of wine, Beer, or other fermented beverages, the alcohol content of which is entirely of fermented origin. The relief is confined to such alcohol products produced solely by a private individual in a private premises for consumption by the producer or by the family or guests of such producer, and not produced or supplied for a consideration. Relief does not apply if brewing takes place on a commercial premises.

LordEoin

Quote from: CH on August 30, 2018, 01:34:54 PM
Revenue went after a Polish hb chap in Cork 5 or 6 years ago who was selling to offies
Was that the 'Cooper' beer? Rotten stuff so i've heard.

CH

Not sure tbh he was just selling with iffy labels mostly North City.

nigel_c

I heard he works for Coors now.